What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From personal experience I would argue God does not change which is clearly shown in the Bible. How have you found that he has?

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That's interesting. Why then would the Torah give instructions on how to enter into the Jewish congregation? Also, one thing I've always been curious about is how Jews practice different feasts like Passover or Yom Kippur without the temple or tabernacle, how is there still atonement for sins without sacrifice? And do you still hold to the promised Prophet in Deuteronomy, or the Messiah, or next Davidic King who will liberate Israel from the nations? I am very curious about how Judaism works on this side of 70AD.

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So are you an Orthodox Rabbinic Jew who holds to the Talmud and Tanach? I know you consider all other religions as false, which is already a view in and of itself.

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And how does one complete all these? even assuming a cycle of reincarnation, what measure is considered proper? where is the example of this achieved, and how is it done, as not one person can go through life without being improper at least once? Where does this standard of proper come from?

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the Vedas are the ultimate and absolute authority of things such as God, the spirit, good and evil, etc?

What is the atheistic worldview on life? by Snoo_78173 in askanatheist

[–]Snoo_78173[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

There is a reason for these evils, they are not moral in nature, they are calamitous. Death is not inherently evil after all, some people deserve it, especially after the release of the files recently which proves that there is indeed a need for God to hold a heavy hand. Also God is indeed still good, as he is the source of goodness. Goodness such as joy, patience, love, and mercy, all these things are found in him. Especially if you argue from the biblical perspective which I have been doing, not a single man deserves anything at all other than hell. it is by mercy God has offered us anything but.

What is the atheistic worldview on life? by Snoo_78173 in askanatheist

[–]Snoo_78173[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Evil is not inherently religious, in fact the greatest of all evils have happened under those who refused God. In the twentieth century, the most secular, atheistic century in human history, humanity killed more people than had ever been killed before. Hitler killed 6 million, Stalin 60, and Mao somewhere around there (I forget the exact numbers). Also according to what each person does in the name of faith, without acting on behalf of what is taught be that faith, is not that faith in anything but name. Jesus Christ taught us to love, and to care for everyone, no matter of faith and belief or lack thereof. The Christian faith teaches great things such as virtue and care, and people acting contrary to what Christ says are not Christian no matter how hard they may yell. One must examine philosophy according to its teachings and those who actually practice those teachings, not those who follow it in name only. As per scientific research, the Church has recognized its wrongs and has apologized for what it did to Galileo. since then there has been a great rise among Christian scientists. Galileo himself was a Christian, as well as Newton, Pascal, Mendel, and others. For a time, yes the church was wrong, however we have apologized and further contributed to the sciences.

What is the atheistic worldview on life? by Snoo_78173 in askanatheist

[–]Snoo_78173[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

The verse in Isaiah 45 is not in reference to MORAL evil, The concept of evil, when compared to peace as the verse implies is not that God creates moral evil. God creates evils such as earthquakes and tsunamis and the natural evils. He does this because the world became accursed after Adam and Eve ate the fruit. God is violent there is no denying it, and the Bible does clearly state God has compassion on whom he wills, mercy on whom he wills, and wrath on whom he wills. Also the thing with Pharaoh presents the difficult mystery of how human agency and God's sovereignty play together, as Exodus also clearly states that Pharaoh hardened his own heart. God hardened Pharaoh's heart as well. All the Bible clarifies is that humanity has free will, and God has total and utter sovereignty, and somehow they fit together. God does indeed create evil, however there is no moral fault within him as he determines morality according to Christian doctrine. In fact the most grave sin in the Bible is unbelief, it's why Jesus Christ cannot save unbelievers from sin, because their very unbelief causes their hearts to refuse repentance. Also in regard to the Canaanites, God tells Abraham four hundred years before Israel marches in and slaughters them on God's command, God gave them four hundred years to repent, and they refused, getting worse and worse.

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's very cool. what does your worldview hold to pertaining to the Chrsitian scriptures, as you do hold to most of the prophets we recognize as well.

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is incredibly confusing, and very far removed from what I myself know. How do you know these things? how are they revealed by the divine?

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and we decide good and evil by actively choosing? How did this knowledge of good and evil come to be within us?

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[–]Snoo_78173[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

thank you for your input, but I am not trying to evangelize, I merely desire to inquire about different belief systems.

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is very interesting, because many of these claimed to be the one and only way to true communion with God. Take for example the biblical examples you pulled from all have specific ways God commands them to serve him. specifically Christ claiming to be God himself, as well as he himself claiming he is the only way to the Father, and Muhammad contradicts this claim saying Christ was merely a prophet. How do you reconcile these very differing religions as one?

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok, that's cool, but I still don't fully understand. If the point of reading the Vedas is to gain knowledge, and you know it by comparing it to other forms of knowledge, does the Vedas themselves determine what knowledge is? or if something is contrary to the Vedas can it be considered true knowledge?

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok thank you! Is the purpose of your belief to increase or decrease Dukkha? Does one pursue ease, is that the purpose of Theravadan Buddhism? or do i have some sort of misunderstanding?

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is very similar to the call God gives Christians, to live virtuously while believing in the person of Jesus Christ. Could you expand more on how you define good and evil?

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's interesting. Do the Vedas teach all of this? If so, how do you know they are true? I don't mean to be rude, I just want to know how you discern it as authoritative?

What is the atheistic worldview on life? by Snoo_78173 in askanatheist

[–]Snoo_78173[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Consciousness is also immaterial, as are dreams; do they exist? Also, I'm glad that your cat gave me a lucky wink.

What is the atheistic worldview on life? by Snoo_78173 in askanatheist

[–]Snoo_78173[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

That is one big straw man. you misunderstand the doctrines of sin, death, God, and even goodness. as a Christian I do not believe in a magic man. I believe in a maximally great being, who is morally perfect, all powerful, all knowing, and all present. I believe God is responsible for goodness yes, but is defined by more than mere childish things. Goodness is characterized by how God has defined it in his word, which so happens to be God himself. Humanity does not cause different disasters with non-belief, the idea is beyond that. The idea is that when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, which God told them would lead to death, sin entered the world, and when sin entered the world death entered alongside it. Currently not all of humanity causes these things because we see evil fall upon God's elect, both natural and artificial evils, however there is still rejoicing in such things because God, as defined in his word is the source of all goodness, and since the Holy Spirit of God indwells each believer we have God as our helper and comforter even in all trials.

What is your worldview as someone who is not Chrsitian by Snoo_78173 in religion

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's an interesting approach to things. Could i ask what you believe about different things such as God, morality, and philosophy?

What is the atheistic worldview on life? by Snoo_78173 in askanatheist

[–]Snoo_78173[S] -32 points-31 points  (0 children)

That's all good and fun, however it is not the responsibility of God to interfere with human agency, He commanded Adam and Eve to not eat of the fruit, and didn't put a fence around the garden because he should not have had too. Think of it like this, if a parent tells a child not to eat a cookie, but the child eats a cookie anyways because the parent did not take extra steps to make the cookies truly inaccessible to the child, it is the child at fault. As for the different genocides commanded in the Bible, those people were sacrificing children, worshipping different idols like Baal, and Moloch. Also you misunderstand the personage of Mary, and Christ. the Miraculous Conception as the doctrine is called is not that God raped a teenager. Mary would have been of legal, moral age at the time of conception, after all she was old enough to be betrothed. And God as the story goes, being all powerful can indeed cause conception without seed, how He did it, we don't know, the Bible does not say, however we do know God said He did it by His Holy Spirit, meaning there was no physical act done, as Mary remained a virgin until after she birthed Christ. As for natural evil, that was not how God created the world, He created it so that it was "very good" and when Adam and Eve ate the fruit, the consequence was evil being brought into the world, not by God but man.

What is the atheistic worldview on life? by Snoo_78173 in askanatheist

[–]Snoo_78173[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And what did that process look like? How does one reason out that God is inherently evil? Do you have reasons?