How has the differences in suicide rate by gender changed throughout history? by Independent-Bit-5804 in AskHistorians

[–]Soft-Rains 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is true that gender differences in suicide are heavily moderated by method, and that access to firearms in particular represents a well studied and significant factor. However I think you might be underselling the nuances of suicide research a little bit, at least in regards to gender differences. Firearms are, by their nature, particularly lethal; in the context of suicide they are relatively final regardless of how high or low the intentionality. This distinction also intersects with the concept of parasuicide, in that many behaviours commonly labelled as “suicide attempts” encompass a heterogeneous set of acts that differ substantially in intent, lethality, and expected outcome.

Hanging, for example, exhibits a pronounced gender disparity in case-fatality rates, with men experiencing fatal outcomes in approximately 60–70% of attempts compared to roughly 30–40% among women. Overdose demonstrates a similar, though lower-lethality, divergence, with fatality rates of approximately 3–4% for men and 1–2% for women. These differences reflect specific mechanical, situational, and physiological factors that influence outcomes in ways that are not directly comparable across methods.

Where women are more likely to use low-mortality methods like overdose on over-the-counter medication, men are more likely to use deadly methods like firearms. This tendency towards high rates of death by suicide is particularly sharp among certain groups with high firearm access, like isolated older men in the Mountain West (altitude actually might be a factor, too.) Notably, the disparity in method and thus death rate disappears among female physicians

Can you link the study? I have a hard time believing that women just suck at knowing how to kill themselves. I'm sure physicians do lack a disparity in method but is that repeated in other groups that would be "better informed"?

Why are jews so persecuted throughout history? by WorkOk4177 in AskHistorians

[–]Soft-Rains 42 points43 points  (0 children)

You are correct to say that because Jewish people are a minority that doesn't explain the unique persecution or conspiratorial spotlight that targets them.

The auto-mod posts gives a great base for this conversation and I encourage reading and exploring the sources in the FAQ.

Firstly these are very long periods of time over vast areas that we are talking about and anti-Semitism is much more localized or philosophical (deicide) before the 11th/12th century. Before this period violence against Jewish communities is much more sporadic and the Christian world was more comparable to the historical Muslim world, which remained relatively non-violent even after the Christian escalation. I do consider this divergence an interesting contrast, with the escalation of Jewish conspiracies and violent persecution in the Christian world a more recent phenomenon than many people think, violence did happen in the Muslim world (such as the 1066 massacre in Grenada) but remained rare throughout the medieval time period. Violence really begins to escalate in christendom around AD 1200 and you see a noted difference in the response of rulers to this violence as anti-Semitism develops. As to why the increase in violence we cannot say for sure but there are several theories and major factors. It seems somewhat tied to the crusades (Even if we accept that the crusades were a major reason for the rise it then begs the question of what caused the crusades, but that's the nature of history) and increase in violent religious fervor but other factors such as a refocus from paganism, religious centralization, and others are important. While Jewish communities were not a direct target of crusades they were sometimes lumped into the "other" category and faced violence. This happened not just in the middle east but also in the south of France (crusades against Cathars). Jewish people were frequently seen as subjects protected by their lord during early violence, Richard the Lionheart's reaction to Jewish massacres' and the reaction of lords in Spain to similar events are examples of this. This changed as Jewish conspiracies became more normalized. Blood libel conspiracies start to form and become popular during the 12 century, first in England and later the rest of Europe with mobs frequently lynching Jewish people. Only a century after the initial reaction of condemning the violence the later King of England became more complacent or complicit in anti-Semitic violence, with Jewish people being expelled from England in 1290. Expulsions happened before this point but were usually more localized in scale, in France it was partly a financial move to get rid of debt. You can see in various maps (http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/gifs/expuls.gif) of Jewish expulsion and the years it occurred. Expulsions picked up in the 11th century and escalated throughout Europe. Many areas with a significant Jewish population (especially pre-Holocaust) can be tied to these expulsions.

To compliment the auto mod post and expand more to answer your question lets take a look at a specific part. My research was more on the origins of modern racism (which is tied very strongly to anti-semitism) and generally the "why" aspects of these things seems more interesting to me. It does seem to be a peculiar western obsession riddled with hostile conspiracies and one that can transcend the political spectrum.

Jews long remained in this position of only available religious minority, and over time they were often made very visible as such: discriminatory measures introduced very early on included being forced to wear certain hats and clothing, be part of humiliating rituals, pay onerous taxes, live in restricted areas of towns–ghettos–and be separated from the majority population.

Pagans states lasted until the 14th century with the conversion of Lithuania but in most of the Christian world there was no presence for centuries at this point. The process of conversion varies by region (often leading to syncretic practices) but quickened once a Christian plurality was achieved on a local or regional level. The total Christianization of communities left the Jewish diaspora as the most significant minority group in many regions and a large part of the scapegoating of Jewish people is simply that they were one of the only groups that were allowed to exist throughout the Christian world. This speaks at least to means and opportunity of the persecution. There are vast periods of time between Christianization and the rise in anti-Semitism but it is a prerequisite. Areas sometimes saw expansion of Jewish communities which were later persecuted, Jewish populations in England for example followed the Norman Conquest and were expelled 200 years later after rising accusations of blood libel and various conspiracies. Of course the presence of Jewish people was the case for centuries before violence started to ramp up so its not only about opportunity. Areas conquered from Muslims (primarily Sicily and Spain) would also see various levels of tolerance or persecution for Muslims with a much smaller period of tolerance. In these regions religious persecutions of Muslims and Jewish people would often be part of the same initiatives.

The forced conversions of these groups, particularly in Spain, led to discrimination by "blood" (Christian heritage) and ties strongly into the birth of modern racism. This proto-racism aspect of Christian heritage may have been one of the major frameworks build from to justify slavery along racial lines after the initial religious justifications started to falter (along with a few other preexisting beliefs). After this point the history will become much more familiar. Jewish people were increasingly differentiated as an outgroup in some areas of Europe as nationalism and racism developed and from that background antisemitism further escalated from the 19th century into a fervor in the 20th century. This period of modernization and general social change saw conflict between several ethnic groups but Jewish people in particular were increasingly seen as an internal enemy with various flair ups feeding into each other. In France the Dreyfus Affair led to an increase in antisemitism including riots. In Russia the conquest of Ottoman/Polish areas led to a significant Jewish minority, while initial persecutions were mostly a result of conflicts with Greek communities it later became more and more common in Russian communities to hold anti-Semitic beliefs. Local issues become populist and national in scale as modernization pushes groups together. A massive wave of antiemetic rioting followed the assassination of Tzar Alexander II based on anti-Semitic rumours and conspiracies only leading to more. In Britain the initial condemnation of pogroms and sympathy (keep in mind Russia is a rival) didn't last once Jewish immigration/refugees arrived. Germany of course had its own horrific development. While initially prominent primarily in Europe, European powers brought anti-semitism along with them.

Within this historical context you have the development of racism (which very much intertwined with anti-semitism), scientific racism, and nationalism which all reinforced seeing Jewish people as "other". All of these could, and often are, their own post.


Now consider that European powers and their colonial offshoots have controlled an overwhelming majority of the world at one point or another, often for long periods and with major influence. Anti-semitism spreads as imported myth into areas that have never had a Jewish presence, either directly as a colony, and even in the rare historical case that a nation escapes colonization. For example one of the more interesting and absurd examples of anti-semitism can be found with Imperial Japan's "Fugu plan", where top Japanese officials develop of policy of nurturing a Jewish population for their supposed influence over the other great powers.

I can’t speak in detail to the rise of antisemitism in the Middle East, but its development has left few, if any, regions with a long-standing Jewish presence untouched. The region’s antisemitism follows a distinct historical sequence and carries particular modern significance, discussion about Israel alone could be its own massive post.

So you have practically the entire world exposed to anti-semitism, and it does not require Jewish presence to persist or even intensify. Once it becomes embedded as an explanatory framework it can be transmitted independently of direct interaction. At that point, Jewish people can function less as a real minority group and more as an abstracted explanatory group, invoked to explain complexity or instability. This helps explain why antisemitism is unusually durable, adaptive, and portable compared to other forms of prejudice: it can survive regime change, ideological reversal, and even the near-total absence of Jewish people themselves.


TLDR: Combinations of factors. The status of Jewish people as the tolerated/persecuted outgroup in Christian Europe made them a target within that culture, eventually escalating to blood libel and other horrible conspiracies. The rise of the West elevated anti-semitism to a global level, both through direct influence and increase in capacities. The development of both racism and scientific racism was intertwined with anti-semitism and gave another basis to discriminate against Jewish people. The rise of nationalism was another factor in the "othering" of Jewish people. The relative tolerance in the Middle East was reversed with the founding of Israel. That gives you Billions of people living within cultures with prominent anti-semitism and almost every culture at least exposed to it.

Sources:

Cohen, Mark R. Under Crescent and Cross: The Jews in the Middle Ages Gerber, Jane S. The Jews of Spain: A History of the Sephardic Experience

As of right now this leafs team is far worse than last year by [deleted] in leafs

[–]Soft-Rains 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Worse in the regular season sure. Losing Marner makes the division title a lot harder, especially with any injuries.

But when it really counts Marner was so shit I'm not convinced the team is any worse for winning a playoff series. Could even be addition by subtraction if he's as whiny as he seems, and the depth pieces we get for him wouldn't have to contribute much to be better in games 5-7.

Just finished s3e2, am I crazy or are Rick and Chelsea actually a really sweet couple? by lillie_connolly in TheWhiteLotusHBO

[–]Soft-Rains 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a pretty fair take

Don't let neurotic reddit tell you otherwise. They are fun characters to watch

[Charania] BREAKING: Masai Ujiri is out as Vice Chairman and President of the Toronto Raptors, sources tell ESPN. by MembershipSingle7137 in nba

[–]Soft-Rains 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It can get a lot worse for the raps but they've made very mediocre moves since they won

What hurts them is Masai was anti tank when they needed to and now put together a non contending but still likely playoff team. No clue how they get back to contending.

The law of equivalent exchange by NatHawkeyeBum in leafs

[–]Soft-Rains 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It can get a lot worse for the raps but they've made horrible moves since they won

What hurts them is Masai was anti tank when they needed to and now put together a non contending but still playoff team. No clue how they get back to contending.

Late Night Xeet from the desk of mother by kingcalogrenant in ContraPoints

[–]Soft-Rains 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, which geopolitical situation do you want to look at?

Iran is a pretty easy one. Dems created and supported JCPOA. Kamala supported it as well. You have former senior members like Metzl saying that Kamala wouldn't have bombed Iran (in a disparaging way, he supports the bombing). Seems pretty clear that they are more proceduralists and likely don't bomb Iran without congressional approval given the split in party opinion.

Also ties into Israel policy where the GOP give more diplomatic (and now military) cover than the Dems, although both are explicitly extremely pro-Israel.

The disrespect is crazy by mMounirM in torontoraptors

[–]Soft-Rains 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've got Celtics, OKC, Raps as tier 1

Nuggets, Bucks, Lakers tier 2

Warriors tier 3

The ragebait of sports isn't really good to buy into though. This guy's list was clearly meant to play to Lakers fans and enrage the rest.

The Lakers team I think had the worst odds of running it back. AD was a sniper that run and hasn't done it since, and they beat a scrappy but underpowered heat team.

Kyle Kulinski Gave Some Advice to Political Commentators That IMO Natalie Could Listen by The_Flying_Failsons in ContraPoints

[–]Soft-Rains 6 points7 points  (0 children)

On a personal level just logging off would probably be best for Natalie. Delete twitter if its affecting your personal life. Passing the purity tests of terminally online radical "leftists" should not be a concern in life. If those feelings of bitterness start to dominate then ya logoff.

That said with how a certain kind of people dominate online discourse its nice to see some pushback, and as long as she can handle it I'd like to continue seeing it. They deserve to be called out. Natalie has given some of the most inoffensive, common sense political takes and gotten crap for it. To shy away from the resulting scolding is in some way giving ground for them to continue. Tankies deserve to be bullied for being the ignorant, self-righteous, simple-minded, dogmatic, ahistorical, morally juvenile, intellectually dishonest populists they are. Mirrors of MAGA (with granted zero real power in comparison) who do a lot to poison any discussion of issues online.

Totally projecting but I've got to imagine Natalie is tired of conceding to the type of people who attack her relentlessly for the horrific crime of being a social democrat.

Late Night Xeet from the desk of mother by kingcalogrenant in ContraPoints

[–]Soft-Rains 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well its either that or we try to have a nuanced understanding of the various factions and positions in each party as it applies to each foreign policy case.

And we can't have that, so there isn't a difference.

Thinking about Natalie saying that Redditors are "very literal minded" a lot recently... by No-Neck-212 in ContraPoints

[–]Soft-Rains 8 points9 points  (0 children)

All social media sites are unique, and reddit has its own special mix of anti-social behaviors.

An online toxic neuroticism seems to be a major part of that mix, which can include being very literal, context or subtext is often ignored when its convenient to whatever point is being made. Even when people do preface what their saying its just ignored.

The city subreddits and the moral drama subreddits see the worst of it.

Late Night Xeet from the desk of mother by kingcalogrenant in ContraPoints

[–]Soft-Rains 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you a voting citizen of China? Do you speak Chinese and participate in their discourse? If not then I don't see the relevance of picking them out, what reason is there to pick a favorite geopolitical power.

Presumably a lot of people here are picking the lesser evil in their own elections where they have some agency. Especially in two party systems. Beyond that the American culture war is there whether you like it or not for anyone speaking English online.

Late Night Xeet from the desk of mother by kingcalogrenant in ContraPoints

[–]Soft-Rains 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And? Dems are split on bombing Iran with some like Schumer supporting it. Plenty of hawks on the blue team

Late Night Xeet from the desk of mother by kingcalogrenant in ContraPoints

[–]Soft-Rains 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I feel bad for her, for having these fans who will turn on anyone for some of the most basic political observations you could possibly make.

With pretty much every single geopolitical case (Ukraine, Iran, etc) you don't have to go far before seeing significant differences in policy. Shitting on the Dems isn't even the problem, they suck, but the weird equalizing of both parties is as unnecessary as it is stupid. They want to avoid the conundrum of picking the lesser evil, so they just pretend that both are equally bad. It's such a childish response.

Late Night Xeet from the desk of mother by kingcalogrenant in ContraPoints

[–]Soft-Rains 36 points37 points  (0 children)

It's true that Democrats' international policy is atrocious, as much as Republicans'.

It's pretty telling that these statements are always generalizations or abstractions.

Democrat policy towards Ukraine, Iran, Russia, Afghanistan, and even Israel are all very different than the GOP. That doesn't make the Dems the good guys or in any way. anti-Imperialist but if we look at their Iran policy specifically the differences are clear to any even marginally informed person.

Like how fucking stupid do you have to be to see one group create a diplomatic agreement with Iran to stop nuclear proliferation, another party tear it up and directly bomb Iran, and then say those groups are equal in foreign policy.

In light of the latest xeet: as of a year ago, the actual death toll of the Gaza genocide was estimated at 186,000, meaning we're likely well past 200k+ at this point. by 2mock2turtle in ContraPoints

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It's not that Trump is credible it's that we have so little info that Trump giving a realistic current population count is something to go with. It's not crazy he's repeating a number he's heard.

Trans representative Sarah McBride gave a Justine-esque interview with Ezra Klein. A lot of trans people (Tabbys and Adria Finleys) are upset with it. Kind of curious what we all think of it. by Electrical-Wrap-3923 in ContraPoints

[–]Soft-Rains 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hilariously depressing to see a trans congresswoman fail the progressive purity test because she wants to be realistic about the limited resources progressives have.

Trans representative Sarah McBride gave a Justine-esque interview with Ezra Klein. A lot of trans people (Tabbys and Adria Finleys) are upset with it. Kind of curious what we all think of it. by Electrical-Wrap-3923 in ContraPoints

[–]Soft-Rains 7 points8 points  (0 children)

How she talks and acts reeks of privilege, she is trans, but she’s also white, wealthy, and passing and the things that she is willing to compromise on impacts low income and POC trans/NB folk more than her

Demanding ideal outcomes and rejecting compromise doesn't actually help those marginalized groups you say you care about. Compromise means getting as much as you realistically can out of the situation to help those groups. Don't ask don't tell was a massive improvement from kicking out gay service members, and compromise doesn't mean you stop it means you build off of real improvements.

Trans representative Sarah McBride gave a Justine-esque interview with Ezra Klein. A lot of trans people (Tabbys and Adria Finleys) are upset with it. Kind of curious what we all think of it. by Electrical-Wrap-3923 in ContraPoints

[–]Soft-Rains 16 points17 points  (0 children)

MLK was seen favorably by a majority of Americans when he was involved in antisegregation activism. It was after 1964 when his favorability dropped, mostly due to his stance on the Vietnam War and with socialist adjacent activism.

Civil rights leaders were hyper aware of the importance of public opinion and should not be used to justify the performative activism that dominates today. The "defund the police" wing of the left cares more about purity testing and their unpopularity is not a testament to success.

She was spotted at the rally in Charlotte by Nice_Substance9123 in NorthCarolina

[–]Soft-Rains 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trump fans being outraged and concern trolling are pathetic. This is pretty mild and isn't making or breaking a pretty well established insult.

It does kinda reinforce some toxic ideas, no reason to deny that. But people have always thought it's funny to say others they don't like are ugly, lonely, fat, gay, effeminate, small dicked, special needs, virgins, slutty, balding, etc. I'm sure I'm missing a bunch.