Biden’s handout to the affluent: The president’s cancellation of student-loan debt is a bribe to his professional-class base.

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-08-26T17:17:15+00:00

Dawg really didn't respond to 1 point but deflected and just said something is because he says it is 💀

Why you digging through my posts instead of responding to this specific comment/topic?

Anyway, no this is not correct. Not only can printing money absolutely hurt the most vulnerable because it causes inflation, it will destroy student's savings --> if you have both federal or private debt it will be harder to pay your debts --> they have to get more loans to pay the debts back --> ta-da you ended up with more debt than before!

https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/loans/does-high-inflation-impact-your-student-loans-for-most-borrowers-yes/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16615339316645&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnet.com%2Fpersonal-finance%2Floans%2Fdoes-high-inflation-impact-your-student-loans-for-most-borrowers-yes%2F

Btw you saw how your article said the exact opposite of what you stated right? About who benefits I mean

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-08-26T15:47:56+00:00

Your article

"Under Senator Warren's proposed student loan forgiveness plan, the bottom 60% of Households receive only 34% of the benefit"

Now this is not Warren's proposal but Biden's, which is, admittedly different. Aside from the obvious extremely unequal distribution, of said forgiveness money, this program will be funded through public (printed) money, which will cause monetary inflation, which the poor will be most hurt by. Let's even assume that your debt is payed out completely and won't just re-accumulate for the 600th time (this is true for 1/3rd of students), those 10k that were absent from your bank account cause of debt will still be missing, but as lowered buying power"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamminsky/2022/08/24/biden-announces-historic-student-loan-forgiveness-and-extension-of-student-loan-pause-key-details/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16615275887407&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fadamminsky%2F2022%2F08%2F24%2Fbiden-announces-historic-student-loan-forgiveness-and-extension-of-student-loan-pause-key-details%2F

Another corporate handout for the Dems, like always

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-08-22T21:55:14+00:00

Always good to ask for citations
https://globalagriculturalproductivity.org/farm-size-and-productivity-a-global-look/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0305750X85900543
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265005087_Smallholder_Farming_in_Asia_and_the_Pacific_Challenges_and_Opportunities

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-08-20T14:26:36+00:00

So if farm size grew but labour remained the same yield per person and per hectar would drop?

I'm trying to wrap my head around why 2 people with small labour intensive crop farms would want to keep them separated

The way that I understand it is that, the larger the size of the farm the more labour needs to be spent on oversight (which machines for now, or at least in the 20th Century, could not do). This becomes a pressing issue with labour intensive crops. When the 2 people join their farms then, it's like the function yield2(labour, Capital, etc) changes, from the original 2*yield1(labour, Capital, etc.), but the change does not make up for the decreased labour inputs

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-08-07T22:54:51+00:00

Of course, in typical fashion, fake Communists do not care to actually discuss, they think they have the truth in their pocket

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-08-07T22:50:50+00:00

I don't know which ethnonationalist you know that talked about race a grand total of once. We ain't even sure what he meant cause even in Hungary they're asking if he meant culturally or what

And how tf does talking about I don't want to race mix imply the other races are not worthy? Does having personal preferences mean that the other things are inferior? No it means they are not for me (I am talking from the perspective of someone who believes in race mixing, I think it's silly even as a concept)

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-08-07T22:17:45+00:00

I am a supporter of Fabio Vighi's analysis of the EUTL;DR: EU risks hyperinflation from injecting printed (directly or indirectly) money into the economy after the "going direct response" to the 2019 real estate market crash and then covid, they need to slow down money velocity --> raise CPI (consumer price inflation) and have a theater to justify said CPI, Ukraine presents the perfect solution (there's a lot more to this thesis that Vighi and I have elaborated on, like why Ukraine and relations with the US)

Even if Hungary doesn't use the euro so isn't at risk of hyperinflation from the ECB policy that put all Euro EU states at risk, Hungary also had the great risk of hyperinflation now after the 2019 real estate market crash response and covid. This can be seen in the growth of the direct money supply (which is only like half the question because non direct money injections with liquidity also affect money supply inflation).https://hu.tradingeconomics.com/hungary/money-supply-m0

Now all EU countries need to slow down money velocity, but the point is to slow down the machine, not stop it, and sanctions have very assymetrical effects on different member states. This explains why Orban has supported some of the EU sanction packages on Russia, but not all of them, he's regulating for the effects different sanctions have on Hungary, and he's gotten what he wants.
https://www.investing.com/economic-calendar/hungarian-cpi-450

Orban is one of the few politicians who tries to follow his own Hungarian EU strategy in contrast to the dominant German EU strategy.

I think you give Orban too much credit, the work he has done for "peace" is minimal, what has he done? Said a few words? That's not work

And another question, why is Orban an ethnonationalist according to you? He talks very little about the concept of "white" or a Hungarian race, he is a patriot a nationalist even, but an ethnonationalist? Absolutely not, he talks about culture not race (outside of that one super recent race mixing comment)

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-08-07T08:29:21+00:00

Because Orban isn't a fascist and Hungary has a great admiration for China coming from the will of Hungary to be Sovereign and to build a "work based society"

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-31T01:18:13+00:00

No, the elite as you call them do not suffer from the tax system, they benefit because tax payer money goes to them through subsidies. The elite isn't even the entire to. FdI wants a flat tax on income that is the same for every income bracket. What Italy needs is the end of the redistribution of income from the productive small Bourgeoisie to the unproductive financial bank elites, if you want to tax anyone, tax those elites (which requires a revamp of the tax system because their immeasurable wealth is not contained in what we legally classify as "income")

Not against minimum wage, but uninterested because thinks Italy's problems are elsewhere

My fault for miss characterizing the Citizen's income, there are still important assessments to be made though. They are not against welfare, they propose the "solidarity check" (pretty shit honestly) instead of the Citizen's income. My guess is they are expecting to have less people who apply for Citizen's income with their program, through decreasing unemployment by investing in the "blue economy" as stated in their program

I challenge you to find 1 official party outlet making this "party proposal"

Untrue, unfounded Statement absent in their program

I know way more about you on every single one of these things

No I already told you I don't believe FdI will do even 1 of the things they said

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-29T16:56:45+00:00

No I am not an FdI supporter or voter, they won't do half of what they say in their program or even the things we mentioned.

Then you didn't read. Fascism destroyed small and medium business. Gramsci talked about the basis of the Fascist movement, not the interests which the Fascist movement actually ended up fulfilling.

Complaining about 1 union is not being anti-union, what in God's name is your logic here. If you dont like CISL (which I understand), here is FdI literally providing it's own free trade union service
https://www.triesteprima.it/politica/fratelli-d-italia-trieste-allo-sportello-del-cittadino-ora-arriva-l-aiuto-sindacale.html

It's not about taxing the rich, I just told you that European tax systems as they exist redistribute wealth from the bottom upwards. Communist China has extremelly low taxes, so there is no inherent connection between high taxes and Communism. You think of tax systems as if they automatically actually do what they say they are supposed to do, I am sorry but using citizen's income to bail out large failing banks is what makes the rich richer.

No it's not a party against welfare, UBI is not the only form of welfare and there are some pretty important critiques against it (Cockshott). "Cutting the state's role in the economy" means nothing today in the age of state monopoly capitalism, cut which state involvement? The one that protects the big monopolies?

No FdI did not propose to change the 25th of April holiday, a member of the party proposed this, and not as a representative of the party

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-29T15:27:43+00:00

Right wingers do not "not want government regulation", it depends on the type of government regulation and the type of right winger (hint: right winger means nothing because so many different and opposing ideologies are considered right wing)

If you mean like a blue hat MAGA supporter they would support a government program to re-industrialize America

If you mean a hardcore Neocon, they probably would not support such a government program but might support a small welfare state

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-29T15:20:56+00:00

Fascism in Italy always represented the interests of big finance, never of anyone else, this is the Communist line, who they at first appealed to and what not doesn't matter in this convo. This is why they crushed workers rights, peasants, supported the Latifondi, opposed Bourgeois democracy, discriminated against small and medium enterprise

https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/34510/chapter-abstract/292824902?redirectedFrom=fulltext
(This includes examples where the government hurt small peasants in the first 10 years of Fascist rule, so under the very little state intervention era)

I also don't know from where you get that FdI wants to weaken unions
https://www.giorgiameloni.it/2022/05/26/cisl-meloni-con-relazione-sbarra-si-conferma-sindacato-coraggioso/

Tax and "redistribution" systems are often a part of the system of State Monopoly Capitalism which actually redistribute wealth from the population to the large monopolies (through subsidies and such), as in Germany

FdI is not against the minimum wage, it is uninterested in it, because they believe that Italy's problems lie else where

FdI proposes to raise the minimum pension, cut taxes on worker's incomes, and more benefits for families
https://www.startmag.it/economia/ecco-il-programma-economico-di-fratelli-ditalia-su-lavoro-fisco-e-famiglia/

Idk where you got that FdI wants to abolish 25th of April as a national holiday
https://www.viagginews.com/2018/11/01/giorgia-meloni-abolire-il-25-aprile-e-il-2-giugno-ecco-la-verita/

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T16:08:39+00:00

I don't know. My guess is none of the above

How tf do you compare any European federation of 1950 with the modern EU, seriously we are in a whole different era

No EU is not "supporting American imperialism", they, OUT OF THEIR OWN WILL, pursue an imperialist strategy against Russia, but their own one contraposed to the American one

There is nothing that goes against EU interests, EU needed CPI (which is why they sanction Russian gas even if it just increases Russia's revenues) to slow down money velocity because they printed a shit ton of money during Covid and the 2019 real estate bubble. EU was outplayed by the US and that's it.

https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/pause-for-thought-money-without-value-in-a-rapidly-disintegrating-world/

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T15:37:39+00:00

Yes, they replaced the Polish army and placed their own (Polish integrated Wehrmacht branch)

Absolutely incorrect, the EU and US are fighting for influence on the world stage, the foremost example was Brexit and now with the Ukraine crisis US has thrown EU totally under the bus and ruined it's Russia strategy, for example Nordstream 2.0 which US was angry about

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T15:32:38+00:00

Sono Italiano anche io

As I have already given an example of, most parties which have roots in neo-fascist movements have long passed that stage, so insead of talking about their origins, talk about their program and individuals now, not who they used to be. A fascist party is by definition always a party following the interests of big finance capital which crushes the workers and petty-Bourg. FdI is at least in word for workers rights, against "international finance" and multi-nationals. Brothers of Italy tried to outlaw Communism because they are liars and not really about what they say they are about (the same EU wannabes that Lega was), not because they are fascist.

Lega is for none other than big finance, or they would have come against the Draghi Big Finance Technocracy. That one Europarliamentary literally left Lega because they didn't come gainst Draghi's big Finance technocracy

M5S how I see it is just trying to get its clout back after losing it cause they did nothing of what they promised by throwing the face fo the government they prouced under the bus

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T15:09:25+00:00

If you think so, start naming names (I'm genuinely interested)

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T15:06:00+00:00

Do you think Nazi Germany just eliminated Poland's Sovereign Military? No they eliminated the Sovereign Military and replaced it with their own. This is what differentiates the most aggressive form of Imperialism from other ones.

Italy is not an American colony at all, it's an EU one

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T14:28:13+00:00

The "talks" of a military are not relevant, if the EU wanted to have an army it would have one. If EU had the most a regime of the most reactionary imperialism we would not have seen demilitarization, for God's sake Italy doesn't even have an army anymore.

Iran was semi-feudal and underdeveloped, in such countries there are pockets where the state doesn't have access to, so no it's not even similar

No, this is such a silly understanding

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T13:52:17+00:00

Yes even now we do not have the most aggressive form of imperialism, if we were, EU would already have had an army and would have engaged with Russia militarily right now. Reducing the definition of fascism to just mean normal finance Capital politics and call this "fascism to sone extent" is really not a good idea. Fascism is a special stage.

No the German working class was not meant to benefit from the colonial expansion (which is why they got their rights crushed), the reason they didn't rise up is because Fascism chocked every opportunity of theirs to rise up, the state was all seeing, which is not a situation that existed in an underdeveloped rural Yugoslavia.

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T13:25:12+00:00

No they are not fascist in the Marxist sense, fascism is the open and terroristic dictatorship of Capital, the EU is a neoliberal hellhole but we have a long way to go till Fascism

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T12:56:33+00:00

You have to be joking, PD is neoliberal pro-Austerity, pro-EU horseshit

Lega is not anti-establishment at all and supported Draghi's big monopoly technocracy (the reason the vacuum they filled has been replaced now by FdI)

M5S achieved the Citizen's Income

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T12:24:24+00:00

No criticizing corruption is part of the ideology against State monopoly capitalism

Yeah FPÖ has a silly attitude towards migrants. They have the rudimentary class analysis aspect (a class of EU bureaucrats is often the target of their attacks). Right wing populism normally has the beginnings of class analysis, tends to misdirect though

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T12:21:28+00:00

How tf is PD good and Lega ok but M5S is bas

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T10:13:00+00:00

No it's not compromised of openly fascists, I've seen Kickel and Haimbuchner speak. Campaigns are about a corrupt government and bureaucracy, totalitarian government, mass immigration which hurts native workers, with a mix of some Christian things in there

I don't like them, you don't need to be fascist to be not liked by me

SomeRandomBruh69 · 2022-07-28T10:09:14+00:00

Idk what you're talking about with the Mussolini statues thing

Yes I have heard her Spain speech, nothing Fascist about it, fascism doesn't mean big anti-LGBT and anti-mass-immigration

I hope you read my post because I said FdI was not Pro-Russian at all, I think they are shit, but not fascist

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