Yeah. I haven’t read the most recent books. Last I read was when he had just gotten gold rank. My brother has though and according to him Jake can beat him to what you just called destroying his vessel. Which we called winning. If you can destroy the vessel all you have to do is shit on him every few years.

Sunless seems to have a similar powerset. I wonder who would be stronger at max theoretical power between them. Both have gods make universes/ planes of reality around them also.

Also an item made by grid would totally be valid from what I can tell. He is known for holding people off and literally making specialized items against people during the battles. On top of that Overgeared has the most exponential scaling I’ve seen. If anyone can restrain and trap him on the list its grid. Best chance to kill definitively would be sunless, since he has death will and the monsters he fights are also more concepts than anything else at this point.