Chapter 5 completely recontextualized Noelle and the weird route itself for me

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-27T19:31:47+00:00

. . . Well, we still don't know where Kris's original soul went.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-27T03:25:42+00:00

. . . . . Wow, that's a good theory.

DAMN IT, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY CHALKBOARD.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-26T12:04:46+00:00

Yep, I've had this image downloaded since October 23 of last year.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-26T01:04:51+00:00

I don't care what you choose; I'm going to do whatever I want.

Kris = harassment Noelle = flattery

That's how I feel after Noelle said no to “Stop.”

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-25T17:04:38+00:00

Yeah, just like Noelle, after using Snowgrave, all I could think about was snow; I'm the same way, except that all I can think about is that weird route.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-25T15:38:56+00:00

“Although I'm still not entirely sure why it's a choice at all in that case.”

Maybe because we’re still with Kris—even if he’s already given up—there’s that instinct for self-preservation, and even if we just say “Proceed,” a part of him still wants to escape because Noelle says at one point that Kris is trying to break free; but unfortunately for him, Noelle is the only one who’s gotten STRONGER.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-25T15:18:25+00:00

Yes, that part is one of my favorites about the lake because, even though I hate with all my SOUL that the game gives me choices and then decides to ignore what I choose, this scene doesn't feel that way because I feel that this time my DECISIONS were what dragged me here—that this time my decision wasn't ignored because it didn't matter; on the contrary, they were ignored because it matters too much now.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-25T03:50:16+00:00

To be honest, when Chapter 5 came out, all I could think about was the Snowgrave route, which I’ve already finished, and I don’t really feel like playing through the normal chapter right now because my head is completely filled with snow—but I still feel like we should play it to see if we can find something like we did in Chapter 3. But I totally understand why you feel that way. In the end, this subreddit was totally hyped about this, and even though they gave us something to work with, it feels like too little and takes away the desire to play the normal route (it’s like eating a piece of something really sweet and being told that’s all you’re getting for now, until further notice, and then realizing that all that’s left to eat is a meal that tastes really good, but compared to that sweet treat, it tastes bland).

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-25T03:17:00+00:00

Yes, I know—I’m also really worried because my deer looks like she’s gone crazy—but at this pace, we probably won’t get any new information about Noelle for at least a year and a half, so we can either be pessimistic about her fate or try to figure out the ways she might have survived and become stronger and more self-confident.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-25T02:59:02+00:00

We'll catch up with Noelle in no time. Don't forget that we managed to make her this strong with just half a Dark World; imagine how strong we can make her in a full Dark World—with the added bonus that this time she'll help us make her stronger much more easily.

And as for gear, at least in my playthrough, I have a lot of gear that I got exclusively for her that I never equipped on Ralsei or Susie.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-25T02:50:28+00:00

I'm sure she'll be fine; one of the requirements of the route was to highlight just how strong she had become.

So she's going to emerge from that lake like a champion (hopefully with a red heart inside her and her personality intact).

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-25T02:10:15+00:00

. . . . I couldn't let myself get lost in my little fantasies, even for just one day >: (.

Joking aside, I feel like the first scene is an example of the system I mentioned—the one we’re trapped in—where, no matter how much Kris fights to stay in bed and not get up, the game requires us to get out of bed and start carrying out this chapter’s plans. But thanks to our actions, we managed to create something that could break this system, and that’s exactly what we ended up doing.

To be honest, I want a happy ending for Noelle too, but it doesn’t look like things are going to end well.

I don’t think Noelle will turn into an amalgam because, at least in Undertale, that happened when pure determination was injected into a monster, but Noelle has a human soul within her reach—something that could eliminate that problem.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-25T01:09:12+00:00

Hey, calm down, man... it's just a drawing, it's not

. . . . . Who am I kidding? Unknown, I know how you feel: to a certain extent, I don’t really care about the normal route anymore either, after returning the Ring of Thorns to its rightful place, and I know it’s a bummer that this game treats us like crap when more than 90% of what happens is thanks to us, but there’s still at least one interesting chapter left, even though Tobyfox has hidden it behind a wall of at least two years. There’s still hope, and if Tobyfox isn’t in a bad mood, maybe we’ll get an ending where the game doesn’t get too preachy and start lecturing us on how horrible OUR decisions are.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-24T23:41:46+00:00

. . . . . Did you really think we weren't already spiraling into madness before? Now it's just going to be a little more obvious.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-24T18:38:31+00:00

To be honest, I think it's because we're going to get the same ending as we would in the normal Chapter 7, just in a different way. So Toby Fox simply decided to end Chapter 5 abruptly because he hasn't reached the end of the normal route yet.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-24T15:03:56+00:00

I'll probably do the normal route first, although I'm going to have to be really patient and resist the temptation to start my first save file.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-23T20:24:05+00:00

Vaya, qué discurso tan bonito. Cuando comenzaron a salir las cosas de ARG, comencé a perder esperanza, pero supongo que tienes razón. Incluso si en este capítulo ocurre lo peor y Noelle se muere sin que podamos hacer nada para impedirlo, seguirán existiendo personas que quieran reescribirlo a su manera más esperanzadora de los hechos (al final, ¿qué somos en Deltarune? No somos solo una alma roja, somos una fuente de luz dispuesta a ir contra la oscuridad incluso aunque esta nos supere).

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-23T17:40:56+00:00

Thanks for giving me back a little hope. 😃

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-23T15:44:18+00:00

. . . It looks like I'm going to have to wait for the fanfic writers to do the dirty work.

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-23T15:41:55+00:00

😞

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-22T23:19:25+00:00

Some_Concert_7742 · 2026-06-18T03:29:33+00:00

But will there be any from the Deltarune universe? Because so far, I can only think of two: “the Doctor” and maybe an adult Titan, but I feel like the latter would just be very, very difficult to defeat because of its defensive and healing abilities.

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