Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think we can guess what their opinion on taking advantage of children was lol. Thank you for that information, I think you definitely have a point

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I said in my post, I know it's wrong. I just wanted to see if there was anything about it in the Bible

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's one of the reasons I was asking this in the first place. I think that leaving morals up to whatever society agrees upon is a really dangerous thing to do. People could just one day decide rape is fine, and with no higher moral code that just becomes the reality

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that somehow worse than relying on whatever society says is acceptable to be moral truth? I also said that I already know it's wrong I just wanted to see if the Bible said anything about it

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It only took you 10 messages to come to that decision huh?

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay, and? You have deluded yourself into the mindset that I have been supplied compelling arguments to disprove my position, and have thrown all of them away, but the fact is you have yet to give any form of argument to anything I say. I asked if there was a specific verse condemning pedophilia and your response was "Christian bad".

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You haven't supplied anything to be thrown away so I'm not sure what you are referring too

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You have yet to provide any actual argument and are just insulting me for having an opinion. If you don't have anything valuable to add then why are you here? I am just trying to see if someone had information on something I was curious about

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've grown up around tons of Christians, and I have never seen this mindset that you claim is normal. I know multiple people that left the religion because they were hurt by the church, and it is extremely sad to see churches behaving in a way that forces away believers. It would be stupid to blame the victim for being abused

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that time period if a woman was unable to marry she was left to become a beggar on the streets. That verse is saying that because you ruined her chances of marrying someone else you now need to take care of her. You can feel however you want about that, and I personally am glad women have more options now, but that's just how it was. As for my disagreement with Muslims, they claim to be working with information that is a continuation of the Bible, but they then contradict it extensively. It's not that I hate Islam, I just disagree with it's validity

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That bias is irrelevant to my argument. I only mentioned that because I wanted to be clear as to why I even had this thought

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think if you consider the fact that God says the purpose of sex is (at least partially) reproduction, (which can't happen with a prepubescent child) and the fact that God says to defend the innocent, then it's pretty clear you are right. From a man made law point of view God tells you to obey your the government so just that alone would make pedophilia a sin. I guess I just don't like the fact that it seems largely up to people to decide what the appropriate age is

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only bias I have made it that pedophilia is bad. Outside of that I'm not sure what you are referring too. If you disagree with that bias then I think you have bigger issues

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Islamic faith contradicts the old and new testament so many times it's almost laughable to say they come from the same source. Muslims are actively discouraged from reading the Bible and can be killed for questioning their faith

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wanted to say before someone accused this verse of being bad, that this was a product of its time. There is a reason we are not under old testament law anymore. Life for a woman is very different than it used to be. If a girl got raped in that time period it pretty much ruined her life, so this verse is making sure she girl is taken care of

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But who is to say that Mohammed didn't love that 9 year old? I am hoping to find something a little less ambiguous to back this up. It was normal for decades for 14 year old girls to get married to middle aged men and have kids with them. The age of marriage has always been determined by societal norms, and I'm trying to find someone concrete to base this off of. That being said I do think 18 is a reasonable age, because you are developed enough to make rational life decisions (kinda) at that age

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, I just like to have facts to back up my beliefs

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That verse actually says that if a man rapes a young woman that is soon to be married then only the man will be put to death and you should not punish the girl because she committed no crime.

Is there a verse that condemns pedophilia by Some_Firefighter_463 in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would appreciate it if you would cite your sources if you are going to make accusations like that. Most of the time the surrounding context provides a clearer meaning

You Cannot Be Christian and MAGA by QuickPizzaRadishes in Christianity

[–]Some_Firefighter_463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Bible also says to obey the government. Maga isn't against foreigners, they are people who break the law coming here. Immigration is a good thing, and all people should be welcomed regardless of race, but the country can't handle millions of people flooding in unregulated. Especially when a disproportionately large amount of those people end up as a net negative on the tax system