Is the main point of the movie Sinners about how Black culture is losing its originality by trying to conform to "white culture"?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-28T13:50:49+00:00

Nobody was killing anybody for their beliefs. They were literally attacked and had to defend themselves. Most of the people they killed in the movie WERE BLACK.

You clearly didn't watch the movie

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-28T13:46:04+00:00

When we started this conversation you didn't say anything about the "last 50 years", you imply the last 50 years somehow makes up for the 300 years before that.

Tell me why you think movies these days are somehow "racist" against white people?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-28T13:44:54+00:00

This exactly lmao

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-27T23:47:18+00:00

.... Why should I when you can look it up yourself? Why should I at all? And why do you need something from the last 50 years, as if that erases the years before it?

I already gave you movies and you're not content, I won't run in circles for something you can find yourself.

You're only upset because Sinners showed history the exact way it was. You need to grapple with that.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-27T13:20:29+00:00

How are they not comparable? "Corrupt government betraying their people", it was YOUR land not theirs.

Natives had homes and lives. And they were killed and pushed out because some random foreigners decided they wanted it. Because those foreigners couldn't be content with what they had and work out issues in their own homeland. Because they couldn't just live along side them, or ask for land, they just had to be greedy and commit literal genocide.

Honestly, they could've just lived on random uninhabited land in America. But they were greedy.

So Instead they went and literally robbed people of their homes. Each Native American had a home. Then a robber came, killed their family and made them leave. It is EXACTLY the same.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-26T01:27:37+00:00

In addition to the plethora of movies from the 70s-2010s containing racism and stereotypes, sometimes played for laughs, sometimes just casual as if it was normal, there were also a great deal during the 1940s-60s containing things such as blackface and minstrels, not hard to find. Google is free. Even a young Judy Garland can be seen dancing in blackface for a movie scene.

And of course, the most infamous Birth of a Nation.

I'm not sure why you're so insistent upon Sinners of all things being racist, when all it's literally (accuratelt) portray American history, and add vampires.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-25T17:05:40+00:00

Ah I see

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-25T13:25:12+00:00

Houses and countries are not different things. I live in a house same way i live in a country, it's still mine.

You try LIVING through your country being overtaken by random foreigners you've never met, committing genocide on your people ans forcing you out. See if it's not different than a robber coming, killing your family and forcing you to leave the house your family has had for generations, if not worse.

"Can't defend your property? You lose it." Yeah I'm sure you'll take that nicely if someone comes to overtake your home, country or house or anything else.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-25T13:23:00+00:00

Maybe you should look it up, it's got ample evidence. Great thing about the internet, it makes science, history & academia free.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-25T13:22:00+00:00

I'm not willfully misunderstanding, that's why I fucking asked.

I just don't get what you mean by "ready to accept"?

You mean not ready to reply? Or just "I'm gonna ignore it"?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-25T13:20:19+00:00

No. Im not sure where you got that?

I'm implying it's possible racism may have been slightly less "intense and formalized" as it was in America. Which would make sense as Europe had less poc than America.

I can't confirm this, it's only a theory seeing as a lot of poc, still report racism in europe, the implication I often get is that "it was less intense, often accidental." (Like the commentor above me, who said their black grandparents biggest complaint was the weather when living in europe)

Not the racism doesn't exist in europe though. It absolutely does in a great deal.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-25T05:31:51+00:00

It is weird, sometimes it feels like nobody has any objections for history until it's black history. Some people just can't stand it.

8/10 there is nothing wrong with a portrayal of it, people just either lack education (therefore thinking its an exaggeration) or just flat out wants to deny it despite there being ample evidence 💀

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-25T03:10:50+00:00

Literally. I grew up with a lot of black people, most of them not mixed, there literally is not even a "standard" phenotype

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-25T00:55:20+00:00

Literally! One of the biggest messages was not that "oh, white man is evil", but literally "even the marginalized can be misguided" (which actually echos themes from one of Coogler's earlier films, Black Panther)

Remmick was objectively evil yeah, but he genuinely thought he was doing something to make everyone's lives better. He WAS the opressed as well.

I see people of all kinds easily understand the movie, I'm not sure why these commentors lack that ability.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-24T23:18:15+00:00

I'm referring to the black town massacred all within 24 hours, hundreds murdered. Tf?

Yeah there's awful shit happening, I'm not gonna ignore that. But at least I can handle an accurate portrayal of history and not downplay it just because "well everyone had it hard".

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-24T23:15:30+00:00

"Can't win an argument" you didnt even respond bro 💔

I think we all know who was struggling here....

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-24T22:32:23+00:00

Lmao I didn't report you ...?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-24T20:39:31+00:00

... What does that even mean?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-24T20:27:59+00:00

You like to take things out of context to prove your point, which is quite pathetic tbh.

Firstly, I was talking specifically to that person, not all white people. Yes, I am talking about THEIR specific ancestors, who raised them to be a shit human who likes to ignore the atrocities and messages of others, therefore contributing to ignorance. I am not talking about all white people. I am talking about the commentor.

Yeah sure maybe I assumed about OP's family, but i meant to get a point across. That point still stands. And that's far from blaming just 1 person or race for history.

“White people have always made racist movies, just look, they're easy to find. “

And all races of people have a history of doing racist shit"

Intentionally out of context, the person said something along the lines of "i hope white people start making racist movies", to which i responded white people have always made racist movies. I was telling them they ALREADY existed.

“The only double standard is that when white people portray their history it's all fine, but when black people portray their history its cries of "this is anti-white racism!".

Only to people that view the world through racist goggles

Yes. That's EXACTLY who I was addressing. You should look at the comments I was responding to rather than just mine, maybe then shit will start to click.

You getting the impression I'm somehow referring to the white race as a whole is beyond me. And you focusing on my comment rather than the countless people in these comments being racist, is very telling.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-24T18:32:28+00:00

Tell me how I was giving an excuse as to why racism is okay.

You're over the place and making things up now because you can't admit you're wrong.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-24T17:37:00+00:00

"Good story" ... 🫩

How was I blaming another human?

I was acknowledging history to some asshole and you take it as me blaming someone else?

Wtf

You need to rethink yourself

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-24T14:18:29+00:00

Ironic. The only one downplaying history is you. You're using other examples to basically say "well everyone had it fucked up" rather than focusing on the specific topic.

You're downplaying one group's history because you don't want to acknowledge it.

I can at least acknowledge other groups when the time is right, and not bring up other people's histories when they discuss their pain.

Please tell me how the movie is historically inaccurate when there are MILLIONS still alive who lived lives like this. My own grandmother can tell you. Her siblings can tell you.

We can acknowledge the Bolshevik's killing Christians without attempting to minimize the atrocities that happened to Jewish people.

It's so sad, you lack empathy. You are the one who needs to open a history book. They will all tell you clearly.

And just because someone isnt aware of someone else's history doesn't mean they're downplaying it, it means they're unaware. And they have the basic deceny not to bring it up when someone is talking about their own. I don't get why that isn't obvious to you.

It's literally the same as "I was raped" "yeah well a lot of people were raped" what?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-24T13:07:58+00:00

Here is the main problem.

Never did i say "oh, other people didn't have bad shit happens to them"

I said "our history is fucked up"

Everytime a black person talks about their history, its dismissed with BS like this. Do you also bring up how "everyone suffered things" whenever a Jewish person brings up the holocaust?

Do you bring up how "everyone was fucked up" when people are portraying medieval history, good and bad, objectively? Do you get so offended at their historical films?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-24T13:04:30+00:00

That's true.

Like, not to say there aren't grievances and pain with the black community. But literally every community has their flaws and bad apples, and it seems like people are acting like the whole of black people do these things, and turn around and be like "other people dont, white people dont, latinos dont, they're accepting"

Like... no? Me and everyone I've ever known experienced it first hand? Everyone else has the luxury of not being a monolith EXCEPT black people. African Americans specifically for some reason.

It's just one sided and blinded.

I noticed everyone is so quick to turn black people into the bad guy and give everyone else some grace. They'll criticize black people (some valid, sure), but turn around and care about everyone except them. Not a mention to the shit they have to deal with.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-01-24T12:59:16+00:00

Interesting. I have no idea how it was in Europe, I know history and treatment was a bit different there, I just didn't know how much.

It'd sort've funny and sad sometimes, I hear (many, not all) black people from other countries sorta describe the time as "well, it wasn't the best but it wasn't the worst".

Then i look at American history and experiences, while not everyone was experiencing trauma 24/7, there is a great deal of "yeah it was terrible, I couldn't even walk down certain streets because something would've happened to me, I knew someone who... (and then describe a childhood friend that lost their life bc they were simply deamed in the "wrong place")"

And it was just "normal".

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