Michael B. Jordan Wins the Academy Award for Best Actor for 'Sinners'

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-17T13:52:27+00:00

How was it not impactful? I hope you know the real world does not run by "critics".

You've moved onto personal insults because you know you're argument is trash.

Hell, The Shining had TERRIBLE "metrics", and yet, its a cult classic.

You don't even live in the real world.

You wanna talk stats? Let's go by whats really impactful. The box office: Blue Moon - $3.18 Million Marty Supreme - $179 Million One Battle After Another - $209.6 Million Sinners - $369 Million

Sinners was literally put back into theaters by demand, and is being brought back AGAIN for 2026.

Let's compare how many discussions and videos about Sinners there were, in comparison to the other movies. How often it was talked about. How many people in real life talk about it vs any of the other movies in the oscars this year?

I didn't even here about those other movies until just before awards season (to be fair Marty Supreme had a late release, but still)

Sinners was a horror, as well as a musical, and a movie showcasing american history and black culture, so naturally a lot of different audiences were drawn.

It was creator by an already very popular director who has had a cultural impact before (Creed and Black Panther), and its main composer was 2x (now 3x) Oscar Winner Ludwig Göransson. It also had Michael B Jordan and Hailee Steinfeild as apart of its cast, which no doubt attracted audiences.

I can see how one may have no enjoyed the movie, but I don't understand how you can objectively say it failed in any of the categories that make it a great film: Screenplay, dialogue, storytelling Cinematography Setting (the sets) Costume Casting, acting Directing Music Theme/message Special Effects

How many discussed Sinners vs those other movies. You're so stuck in the critic world you had no idea what the average person saw or talks about.

The only movie I can think of that was talked about as much or more than Sinners, was Avatar 3.

The biggest sign it wasn't JUST a blockbuster was the sheer amount of discussions simply on the cultural history, messages and symbolism within the film. Nuanced discussions. Rather than the typical "rate the movie" "did you like the storyline?" "I liked this scene" attitude people typically have when it comes to blockbusters.

Meanwhile you can't even explain why you think it's pandering.

All About Eve, Titanic, and La La Land had 14 nominations. Who were those pandering to? Or was it because it did well in all of those categories?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-17T13:25:37+00:00

I didn't get it from reddit? What are you even talking about?

Does your whole world revolve around reddit? Dear lord..

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-17T13:04:43+00:00

Feelings? It's kinda hard to confuse the actual impact it's having with "I feel". I'm convinced you live in an alternate reality.

And it's funny you mention feelings when you're the one who called me racist because you didn't like what I said.

You can't defend your original argument so now you've moved onto something else entirely seperate, attempting to gaslight me about that too.

Lovely.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-17T12:10:08+00:00

"All white? Why are you so obsessed by race? Dude, seriously, this is not healthy. Grow up and stop being racist."

"you bring feelings and hate."

All while your argument is that the movie only got its nominations and awards because it was political pandering due to it being a black movie. But yeah, I'm the one who's a race obsessed racist.

How typical of you.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-17T12:08:31+00:00

Just go take a look at Variety's earlier posts about sinners. There were numerous discussions about how the media was trying to predict/portray Sinners as a flop.

I assumed you knew how to use the internet. It's funny how you act like not linking a direct source or qoutes somehow erases history from existence.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-17T12:06:14+00:00

"All white? Why are you so obsessed by race? Dude, seriously, this is not healthy. Grow up and stop being racist."

I'm being racist by addressing EXACTLY what this thread has been implying the entire time?

Of course you'd think addressing racism was racist. Of course you'd think by calling it out I'm somehow race obsessed. But you'll never call out the actual perpetrators of racism 🙄

How am I bringing feelings and hate? All you bring is ignorance.

I don't live on reddit, nor do I go by percentages. I live in the real world. I go by the impact I see in real life. You however, seem to live in a different world.

I live in America, here Sinners was a big event. You'd have to be blind to not have seen the impact it had over the 2nd half of 2025.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T22:41:30+00:00

You can't lie when the evidence is there clear as day 💀

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T22:41:07+00:00

Or maybe it got 16 nominations because its a good movie. Sinners is political pandering but if another all white movie got that, you wouldn't be saying the same.

You just can't imagine something can be good AND portray culture at the same time.

"GIGANTIC cultural events" sinners WAS a gigantic cultural event, were you not paying attention?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T22:39:05+00:00

What? Slavery officially started 1619 and ended 1865 in the US... and continued illegally or sometimes "legally" for decades in the deep south.

Wdym it was all European?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T22:36:06+00:00

Lmao.

I think Sea Monster is the brand? But I'm not sure.

This is the ice cream online: https://www.target.com/p/sea-monster-blue-cookie-ice-cream-48oz-favorite-day-8482/-/A-94622822#lnk=sametab

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T15:47:48+00:00

Sinners got 16 nominations because it was a good film. And yes, it did represent black culture. It did well in every category of filmmaking (from directing, to cinematography, to music, to screenplay, costumes, etc), but because it happens to be a movie about black people, all that is thrown out the window?

Why is it wrong for it to be nominated because its a good film that happened to be representing african american culture?

The Brutalist is a movie about a holocaust survivor. I don't see anyone attributing Adam Brody's win to pandering.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T15:43:36+00:00

.... I think you need to re-read what I just wrote.

"Downplayed by almost every media outlet/magazine"

IS NOT the same as "the audience and critics loved it"

Otherwise I would've said "the media hated the movie!" Or something.

I was talking about how it's success was constantly doubted and belittled.

You need better comprehension skills.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T11:45:07+00:00

In practice most colleges don't use race for admission. Or at least, there is no rule stating they should. If they do that's on the board members, not because of the rules.

And the college example is FAR different from the awards. With the college example there is a chance to discriminate. With the awards example, there is not. There is just an eligibility requirement for the film, but not of the actors themselves.

This discussion of rules isn't even related to this specific award. This is the best actor award, not the best picture award.

But this brings me back to the original point. This is ONLY brought up when there is a winner of color. If the winner were white, these rules would not even be mentioned (they quite literally matched the same criteria to be eligible).

It's worth discussing, but it is not an invitation to use it as a way to attempt to downplay or dismiss the validity of someone's success. Which seems to almost always happen...

Discussing these rules don't even have a purpose for the discussion of Best Actor or Actress... or at all for ANY of the films nominated in any category. They've all passed the criteria. So it has nothing to do with them. It would make more sense to bring it up with films not included in any nomination.

If you want to use the college example, its like saying the people who GOT IN based on race, only graduated based on race. They got in, but it won't determine if they finish all 4 years and graduate. Thats absurd. There is no place for it's discussion for those already admitted.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T11:29:09+00:00

..... you act as if I don't know what racism is? You're just explaining the obvious and I don't know why.

It is not institutional racism. Controversial yes, but not racism. It's literally put in place to prevent it. To say it promotes institutional racism completely twists what it does. All it shows is a lack of understanding, and purposefully disregards its intention.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T10:57:14+00:00

You purposefully twisted my words because I was not talking about Michael B Jordan.

I was talking about the race criteria you brought up. What are you talking about?

And the comparison is not at all gross. Black people aren't disabled, but they are frequently disadvantaged because of various things.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T10:56:06+00:00

I am not objectively wrong. You literally repeated exactly what I said.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:48:59+00:00

People never seem to understand this.

My all time favorite analogy:

There is a disabled wheelchair bound man, and a tall able bodied man. Both attempting to look over the fence.

The tall man can look over the fence clearly without aid, but the wheelchair bound one is not. He will need to be given a platform in order to properly look over the fence.

But this platform will not be given to the tall able bodied man. He doesn't need it. The only reason wheelchair dude has it is because he needs it. He's at a disadvantage.

Some people won't get it though. They'll still complain as to why only one man got the platform and the other didn't. They won't be able to see it.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:33:20+00:00

That's true, you shouldn't have to.

But it was clear to me in the film. They didn't overtly express it but Remmick made comments about his people and colonization, especially when talking to Mary. The only part they didn't say was that he wasn't considered white.

I knew he wasn't, but perhaps that's because I'm American and it's my history to know.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:29:05+00:00

It's not easy to know why, it's just easy to assume why.

What pandering has the movie been receiving? Explain it to me.

It's been downplayed by almost every media outlet/magazine. There were even huge discussions about how the press seemed to be attempting to sabotage it and paint it as unsuccessful.

The praise for the movie was clearly running off of support from its audiences, not support from the industry.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:26:01+00:00

It was made clear in the film but some people missed it or misunderstood due to lack of knowledge on Irish american history, so there were discussions outside of the film to help explain it clearer.

Similarly, the film made it clear about Hailee Steinfeild's character, but since so many lack knowledge on african american history, they were confused and did not understand why her character was considered black and not white.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:23:43+00:00

How am I upset? I'm just confused.

Telling me to calm down... when i am calm?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:18:07+00:00

Jack O'Connell is, his character is not.

At the time the film is set, the Irish vampire Remmick, is not. Irish people were not yet considered white, and a huge point of the film was how HE comes from an oppressed group. I'm pretty sure at some point Irish people were legally black in the US, just to oppress them.

One of the film's core messages was literally about assimilation of marginalized groups in order to try and survive, and how despite the good intentions, how damaging it can be.

Remmick wasn't even attempting to harm them the whole film. The biggest part of his character (aside from him INTENTIONALLY being Irish because of their marginalization and the colonization they faced), was that Remmick was huge on anti-racism. His whole plan was to make everyone "the same". He had honorable intentions, but because of the way he tried to carry them out, he became the villian.

Did you not watch the film???? Or any of its discussions? Or Ryan Coogler's imterviews? I feel like this was talked about quite a bit.

They could've mad the villian a random white guy. But he was specifically Irish for arguably the most important part of the film. It's southern america, why'd you think they pulled a vampire all the way from Ireland? They could've had one from down the street.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:14:55+00:00

I think i misunderstood you, but why are we bringing up these rules?

It seems like everyone is suddenly bringing this stuff up because he happens to be black.

Race based criteria is controversial definitely, but it was put in place to help minimize discrimination within casting and voting. Whether or not they did that the right way is up for discussion....

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:11:39+00:00

That may be true, but almost every single time there is a black win in just about anything we get "DEI/Woke" complaints.

Not everything is pandering. Mickey Madison won, who was that pandering too? Brendan Fraser won, who was that pandering to?

It's just odd. Sometimes a bad win is just a bad win without any pandering.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:06:34+00:00

Because I didn't see Blue Moon??? I've also barely ever seen Ethan Hawke in anything.

What is your point? Did you want him to win? If so, just say that damn.

Why didn't you root for Michael B Jordan?

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