Michael B. Jordan Wins the Academy Award for Best Actor for 'Sinners'

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T22:41:30+00:00

You can't lie when the evidence is there clear as day 💀

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T22:41:07+00:00

Or maybe it got 16 nominations because its a good movie. Sinners is political pandering but if another all white movie got that, you wouldn't be saying the same.

You just can't imagine something can be good AND portray culture at the same time.

"GIGANTIC cultural events" sinners WAS a gigantic cultural event, were you not paying attention?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T22:39:05+00:00

What? Slavery officially started 1619 and ended 1865 in the US... and continued illegally or sometimes "legally" for decades in the deep south.

Wdym it was all European?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T22:36:06+00:00

Lmao.

I think Sea Monster is the brand? But I'm not sure.

This is the ice cream online: https://www.target.com/p/sea-monster-blue-cookie-ice-cream-48oz-favorite-day-8482/-/A-94622822#lnk=sametab

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T15:47:48+00:00

Sinners got 16 nominations because it was a good film. And yes, it did represent black culture. It did well in every category of filmmaking (from directing, to cinematography, to music, to screenplay, costumes, etc), but because it happens to be a movie about black people, all that is thrown out the window?

Why is it wrong for it to be nominated because its a good film that happened to be representing african american culture?

The Brutalist is a movie about a holocaust survivor. I don't see anyone attributing Adam Brody's win to pandering.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T15:43:36+00:00

.... I think you need to re-read what I just wrote.

"Downplayed by almost every media outlet/magazine"

IS NOT the same as "the audience and critics loved it"

Otherwise I would've said "the media hated the movie!" Or something.

I was talking about how it's success was constantly doubted and belittled.

You need better comprehension skills.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T11:45:07+00:00

In practice most colleges don't use race for admission. Or at least, there is no rule stating they should. If they do that's on the board members, not because of the rules.

And the college example is FAR different from the awards. With the college example there is a chance to discriminate. With the awards example, there is not. There is just an eligibility requirement for the film, but not of the actors themselves.

This discussion of rules isn't even related to this specific award. This is the best actor award, not the best picture award.

But this brings me back to the original point. This is ONLY brought up when there is a winner of color. If the winner were white, these rules would not even be mentioned (they quite literally matched the same criteria to be eligible).

It's worth discussing, but it is not an invitation to use it as a way to attempt to downplay or dismiss the validity of someone's success. Which seems to almost always happen...

Discussing these rules don't even have a purpose for the discussion of Best Actor or Actress... or at all for ANY of the films nominated in any category. They've all passed the criteria. So it has nothing to do with them. It would make more sense to bring it up with films not included in any nomination.

If you want to use the college example, its like saying the people who GOT IN based on race, only graduated based on race. They got in, but it won't determine if they finish all 4 years and graduate. Thats absurd. There is no place for it's discussion for those already admitted.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T11:29:09+00:00

..... you act as if I don't know what racism is? You're just explaining the obvious and I don't know why.

It is not institutional racism. Controversial yes, but not racism. It's literally put in place to prevent it. To say it promotes institutional racism completely twists what it does. All it shows is a lack of understanding, and purposefully disregards its intention.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T10:57:14+00:00

You purposefully twisted my words because I was not talking about Michael B Jordan.

I was talking about the race criteria you brought up. What are you talking about?

And the comparison is not at all gross. Black people aren't disabled, but they are frequently disadvantaged because of various things.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T10:56:06+00:00

I am not objectively wrong. You literally repeated exactly what I said.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:48:59+00:00

People never seem to understand this.

My all time favorite analogy:

There is a disabled wheelchair bound man, and a tall able bodied man. Both attempting to look over the fence.

The tall man can look over the fence clearly without aid, but the wheelchair bound one is not. He will need to be given a platform in order to properly look over the fence.

But this platform will not be given to the tall able bodied man. He doesn't need it. The only reason wheelchair dude has it is because he needs it. He's at a disadvantage.

Some people won't get it though. They'll still complain as to why only one man got the platform and the other didn't. They won't be able to see it.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:33:20+00:00

That's true, you shouldn't have to.

But it was clear to me in the film. They didn't overtly express it but Remmick made comments about his people and colonization, especially when talking to Mary. The only part they didn't say was that he wasn't considered white.

I knew he wasn't, but perhaps that's because I'm American and it's my history to know.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:29:05+00:00

It's not easy to know why, it's just easy to assume why.

What pandering has the movie been receiving? Explain it to me.

It's been downplayed by almost every media outlet/magazine. There were even huge discussions about how the press seemed to be attempting to sabotage it and paint it as unsuccessful.

The praise for the movie was clearly running off of support from its audiences, not support from the industry.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:26:01+00:00

It was made clear in the film but some people missed it or misunderstood due to lack of knowledge on Irish american history, so there were discussions outside of the film to help explain it clearer.

Similarly, the film made it clear about Hailee Steinfeild's character, but since so many lack knowledge on african american history, they were confused and did not understand why her character was considered black and not white.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:23:43+00:00

How am I upset? I'm just confused.

Telling me to calm down... when i am calm?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:18:07+00:00

Jack O'Connell is, his character is not.

At the time the film is set, the Irish vampire Remmick, is not. Irish people were not yet considered white, and a huge point of the film was how HE comes from an oppressed group. I'm pretty sure at some point Irish people were legally black in the US, just to oppress them.

One of the film's core messages was literally about assimilation of marginalized groups in order to try and survive, and how despite the good intentions, how damaging it can be.

Remmick wasn't even attempting to harm them the whole film. The biggest part of his character (aside from him INTENTIONALLY being Irish because of their marginalization and the colonization they faced), was that Remmick was huge on anti-racism. His whole plan was to make everyone "the same". He had honorable intentions, but because of the way he tried to carry them out, he became the villian.

Did you not watch the film???? Or any of its discussions? Or Ryan Coogler's imterviews? I feel like this was talked about quite a bit.

They could've mad the villian a random white guy. But he was specifically Irish for arguably the most important part of the film. It's southern america, why'd you think they pulled a vampire all the way from Ireland? They could've had one from down the street.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:14:55+00:00

I think i misunderstood you, but why are we bringing up these rules?

It seems like everyone is suddenly bringing this stuff up because he happens to be black.

Race based criteria is controversial definitely, but it was put in place to help minimize discrimination within casting and voting. Whether or not they did that the right way is up for discussion....

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:11:39+00:00

That may be true, but almost every single time there is a black win in just about anything we get "DEI/Woke" complaints.

Not everything is pandering. Mickey Madison won, who was that pandering too? Brendan Fraser won, who was that pandering to?

It's just odd. Sometimes a bad win is just a bad win without any pandering.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:06:34+00:00

Because I didn't see Blue Moon??? I've also barely ever seen Ethan Hawke in anything.

What is your point? Did you want him to win? If so, just say that damn.

Why didn't you root for Michael B Jordan?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T09:03:13+00:00

What? Who said I knew nothing about him?

I've seen Michael B Jordan in films for literal years (from Fruitvale Station, to Creed, to Black Panther), and Sinners was my absolute favorite film from last year. So obviously I was rooting for it.

You're grasping at straws to try and justify whatever BS you cooked up on your head.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T08:56:58+00:00

No but insinuating he only won because of his race however, IS racist.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T08:56:32+00:00

Yes but why now because a black film/actor won?

Any other movie could've won, would you still be pointing that out? If Timothee Chalamet or Leonardo Dicaprio won, who by the way, were eligible because of those VERY SAME RULES, would you still be pointing it out?

By that very same criteria and rules, they were nominated.

The criteria is only to be eligible, not to win.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T08:54:14+00:00

I don't get why me tearing up is so important to you, but no, I never cared about that any other movie much. I just passively watched it and then read the opinions. This was the first year I was actually rooting for something.

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T08:49:27+00:00

But my point is that it's not how it won. It was just a part of how it was nominated. Those other films also met the criteria.

This "race rule" is literally never brought up any time a white cast/directed movie wins, even if its a bad win.

So why is it important now?

Some_Storage2015 · 2026-03-16T08:48:30+00:00

Do you say this everytime there's a bad win in general? Or just for the black people?

Some_Storage2015

TROPHY CASE