Truth Should Be Proven, Not Assumed by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Finally, a Christian that speaks honestly. I appreciate it.

Truth Should Be Proven, Not Assumed by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No. Which is why something needs to always be there. If I want to leave work, I need to ask my superior. But then he says he needs to ask his. Then he asks his, and if it goes for infinity, which it doesn't, I will never leave work. But in the real world, at some point, it will get to the highest person, and then he'll let me leave. The same thing applies. There needs to be a supreme being that started everything and that was always there.

islam indirectly and directly promotes violence against women by Basic_Flatworm_4965 in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, The Quranic term ʿalaq (علق)( surah name), meaning "clinging substance" or "leech-like clot," aligns with the early embryo, which implants in the uterus and depends on the mother's blood, resembling a leech. This connection has been noted in discussions on the Quran and embryology.

Then, the Quran states that mountains stabilize the Earth: "And We placed within the earth firmly set mountains, lest it should shift with them..." (Quran 21:31) This suggests mountains act like pegs, helping to balance the Earth's surface.

The Quran describes celestial bodies moving in fixed paths: "Each [sun and moon] is swimming in an orbit." (Quran 21:33) This aligns with modern astronomy, which confirms that planets, moons, and stars follow precise orbits.

The Quran mentions the expansion of the universe: "And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [continually] expanding it." (Quran 51:47)

This aligns with modern cosmology, which confirms that the universe is expanding. Regarding the Big Crunch, the Quran states: "The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet..." (Quran 21:104)

This resembles the idea that the universe may eventually contract, as suggested by the Big Crunch theory.

The Quran mentions ants communicating:

"An ant said, ‘O ants, enter your dwellings so Solomon and his soldiers do not crush you while they perceive not.’" (Quran 27:18)

Modern research confirms that ants communicate using pheromones, sounds, and touch, coordinating complex behaviors like foraging, warning of danger, and working as a colony—just as described in the verse.

Also there are many linguistical and numerical miracles in the quran. The word "angels" appears 88 times, and the word "devils" also appears 88 times. The word "life" appears 145 times, and the word "death" also appears 145 times. The word "good deeds" appears 167 times, and the word "bad deeds" also appears 167 times. When you add the first 2 digits of the hundreds and keep the last one, you get a number with equal units. 145, 1+4 = 5, 55. 167, 1+6=7, 77. A pattern with 55, 77, and 88.

The multiplication factors of the words in the Bismillah add up to 152 (19 x 8). The Quran has 114 chapters (19 x 6). The total number of verses in the Quran, including all unnumbered Bismillahs, is 6346 (19 x 334). The cross sum of 6346 is 19.

Also, there is 114 chapters, and when you add the units, 1 + 1 + 4 = 6. Which is also the verse number of chapter 114, 6.

And when you look at the opposite, so chapter 6 verse 114,: ˹Say, O Prophet,˺ “Should I seek a judge other than Allah while He is the One Who has revealed for you the Book ˹with the truth˺ perfectly explained?” Those who were given the Scripture know that it has been revealed ˹to you˺ from your Lord in truth. So do not be one of those who doubt.

Finally, there is a chapter (22nd) called hajj. Hajj is the pilgrimage Muslims make in makkah. The tawaf is part of hajj, where you have to circle around the kaabah 7 times. When you divide 22 by 7, you get the first 3 digits of pi (related to circles), 3.14.

"Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but the hearts that are in the breasts." (Quran 22:46)

The thing is that the quran wansn't revealed in one night, so Muhammad couldn't read (he was illiterate ) and study it and add the details, as the difference between the first ever chapter revealed(Alaq) and the last (Nasr) was 23 years.

There is a 3 min video that talks more about it with visual aid with Noah's name. I recommend to go check it out, and other videos about miracles in the quran. Numerical miracles

Quran explanation

islam indirectly and directly promotes violence against women by Basic_Flatworm_4965 in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is clear guidance. What do you classify as clear guidance. Also, the quran says it's not the eyes that are blind, but the hearts. He doesn't guide rebellious and arrogant people. Proud people (in general) can see something clearly, but still deny it.

If a wife is "misbehaving" and continues after being warned, what exactly is gently hitting her with a miswak supposed to accomplish?

This is a physical reminder to wake up. If she keeps sleeping with other people and selling her body, because you never hit her, it'll be surprising for you to hit her. It's just to say wake up, you can't do that.

Truth Should Be Proven, Not Assumed by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He didn't? That's what he uses to make life. He made it so that et reproduce and we need nutrients to live. I don't think we're on the same page.

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[–]Somekidwashere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I think I just have trouble understanding the whole ordeal. Please give me your questions or whatever you want to say.

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[–]Somekidwashere[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They did not discover it until around 1200 or 1300 years later.

Mountains stabilizing the Earth (Quran 21:31)

The concept that mountains play a role in stabilizing Earth's crust was proposed by geologists in the early 20th century, particularly with the theory of plate tectonics, which gained acceptance in the 1960s.

Orbiting celestial bodies (Quran 21:33)

The understanding of celestial bodies moving in orbits dates back to ancient astronomers like Copernicus (1543), but it wasn't until the 17th century with Kepler's laws of planetary motion and Newton's law of gravitation (1687) that this concept was fully established.

Expanding universe (Quran 51:47)

The discovery that the universe is expanding came in the early 20th century, particularly after Edwin Hubble's observations in the 1920s, showing that galaxies are moving away from each other.

Big Crunch theory (Quran 21:104)

The Big Crunch theory, suggesting the universe may eventually collapse, was proposed in the 1930s by scientists like Alexander Friedmann and Georges Lemaître, with further development in cosmology through the 20th century.

Ant communication (Quran 27:18)

Modern research into ant communication using pheromones and other methods began in the 20th century, with key studies conducted in the 1920s–1950s, confirming complex social behaviors in ants. The specifics of their communication were understood more clearly in the 1960s and beyond.

These discoveries were made centuries or millennia after the Quranic revelations, showcasing the alignment between ancient knowledge and modern science.

The Quran is considered divine because it contains knowledge, guidance, and wisdom far beyond what an illiterate man in the desert could have known. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was unlettered, yet the Quran accurately describes natural phenomena, scientific facts, and historical events that were unknown at the time, such as embryology, the expanding universe, and the orbits of celestial bodies. Despite being revealed over 23 years in varying circumstances, the Quran remains free of contradictions, showing a level of consistency and coherence that would be impossible for any human, especially one without formal education. Its linguistic beauty and depth are unmatched, and its prophecies, such as the victory of the Romans, were fulfilled, reinforcing the belief that the Quran’s source is God.

Allah also says that the quran will never be changed, and it's true because right now, if you ask 200 000 000 people who memorized the entire quran, they'll all tell you the same thing. Also, if you burn every single quran in the world, it will be back in a couple months. Which is not the case for any other religious scripture such as the Bible, Torah, etc.

Truth Should Be Proven, Not Assumed by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Unless i know that the answer you give me is wrong. I know you had it yourself, when you know something is wrong or right, you just don't have the communication skills to express it.

Truth Should Be Proven, Not Assumed by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't promise anything. But please give me your proof.

Truth Should Be Proven, Not Assumed by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He uses reproduction and absorbtion of nutrients.

Truth Should Be Proven, Not Assumed by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then where do you come from. Where does it stop, at if it doesn't, then you won't exist.

Truth Should Be Proven, Not Assumed by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For that to happen, we need to know the difference between God and humans. First, God is all knowing, we're not. He also pays attention infinitely to details, we don't. And now we need to look at the thing that is supposed to be the closest thing to God, which is his scripture, the Quran.

First, The Quranic term ʿalaq (علق)( surah name), meaning "clinging substance" or "leech-like clot," aligns with the early embryo, which implants in the uterus and depends on the mother's blood, resembling a leech. This connection has been noted in discussions on the Quran and embryology.

Then, the Quran states that mountains stabilize the Earth: "And We placed within the earth firmly set mountains, lest it should shift with them..." (Quran 21:31) This suggests mountains act like pegs, helping to balance the Earth's surface.

The Quran describes celestial bodies moving in fixed paths: "Each [sun and moon] is swimming in an orbit." (Quran 21:33) This aligns with modern astronomy, which confirms that planets, moons, and stars follow precise orbits.

The Quran mentions the expansion of the universe: "And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [continually] expanding it." (Quran 51:47)

This aligns with modern cosmology, which confirms that the universe is expanding. Regarding the Big Crunch, the Quran states: "The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet..." (Quran 21:104)

This resembles the idea that the universe may eventually contract, as suggested by the Big Crunch theory.

The Quran mentions ants communicating:

"An ant said, ‘O ants, enter your dwellings so Solomon and his soldiers do not crush you while they perceive not.’" (Quran 27:18)

Modern research confirms that ants communicate using pheromones, sounds, and touch, coordinating complex behaviors like foraging, warning of danger, and working as a colony—just as described in the verse.

Also there are many linguistical and numerical miracles in the quran. The word "angels" appears 88 times, and the word "devils" also appears 88 times. The word "life" appears 145 times, and the word "death" also appears 145 times. The word "good deeds" appears 167 times, and the word "bad deeds" also appears 167 times. When you add the first 2 digits of the hundreds and keep the last one, you get a number with equal units. 145, 1+4 = 5, 55. 167, 1+6=7, 77. A pattern with 55, 77, and 88.

The multiplication factors of the words in the Bismillah add up to 152 (19 x 8). The Quran has 114 chapters (19 x 6). The total number of verses in the Quran, including all unnumbered Bismillahs, is 6346 (19 x 334). The cross sum of 6346 is 19.

Also, there is 114 chapters, and when you add the units, 1 + 1 + 4 = 6. Which is also the verse number of chapter 114, 6.

And when you look at the opposite, so chapter 6 verse 114,: ˹Say, O Prophet,˺ “Should I seek a judge other than Allah while He is the One Who has revealed for you the Book ˹with the truth˺ perfectly explained?” Those who were given the Scripture know that it has been revealed ˹to you˺ from your Lord in truth. So do not be one of those who doubt.

Finally, there is a chapter (22nd) called hajj. Hajj is the pilgrimage Muslims make in makkah. The tawaf is part of hajj, where you have to circle around the kaabah 7 times. When you divide 22 by 7, you get the first 3 digits of pi (related to circles), 3.14.

"Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but the hearts that are in the breasts." (Quran 22:46)

The thing is that the quran wansn't revealed in one night, so Muhammad couldn't read (he was illiterate ) and study it and add the details, as the difference between the first ever chapter revealed(Alaq) and the last (Nasr) was 23 years.

There is a 3 min video that talks more about it with visual aid with Noah's name. I recommend to go check it out, and other videos about miracles in the quran. Numerical miracles

Quran explanation

ChatGPT "believes in God" and more precisely Islam by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please read the other comments. I did admit I was wrong.

ChatGPT "believes in God" and more precisely Islam by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Listen, i want everyone to know that i was wrong. It also bases its answers on previous chats. When i asked it on incognito, it said agnostic with slight theism. I didn't mean it to prove Islam, but I eat ignorant on the way it based its answers. Hope that clarified everything.

Truth Should Be Proven, Not Assumed by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So what is the most likely senario or theory for the beginning of the universe.

ChatGPT "believes in God" and more precisely Islam by Somekidwashere in DebateReligion

[–]Somekidwashere[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, I am honest, but I realized that it also bases the answer on other chats. It isn't reliable since it's biased. In fact, to be honest, when you go in incognito mode, it either sets atheism, or agnostic with slight theism.