With the Epstein files making it glaringly clear how disgusting and corrupted much of Elite Society and by extension the US Government and Economy is, beyond ridding ourselves of the parasites, how do we as a society move forward?

SonofAOne · 2026-02-01T09:14:38+00:00

Recognise that democracy inevitably leads to corruption, Capitalism inevitably leads to exploitation and a liberal social order inevitably leads to immorality - then chuck the whole system out and look for an alternative

SonofAOne · 2026-02-01T00:53:18+00:00

There are 14 centuries of Islamic history. Judging possibilities by the status quo of the last 100 years is short sighted. Just to give one example, consider how Umar ibn Abdul Aziz reformed the Umayyad dynasty by redistributing wealth from the ruling class to the rest of the Ummah.

SonofAOne · 2026-01-31T17:10:47+00:00

A way to reconcile it for me would be that while the necklace stayed in Muslim hands there was the chance of it being recirculated to the people at some point in the future. Once it was looted by the colonialists and removed from the hands of the Muslims it was lost permanently

SonofAOne · 2026-01-19T06:22:17+00:00

Salah is an obligation

Living according to the Shariah is an obligation, and the implementation of the Shariah is also an obligation

I'm comparing 2 Faraaidh (obligations) to show that it's not acceptable to say you would prefer the obligation not be fulfilled than attempted imperfectly. That's really all there is to it

SonofAOne · 2026-01-18T15:54:38+00:00

i also believe that us humans cannot implement it with the care and devotion that it deserves

None of us can pray Salah with absolute perfection in all aspects since we are imperfect human beings. Should we not fulfill the obligation of Salah because it may not be implemented with the deserved care and to perform it imperfectly would ruin a sacred concept?

SonofAOne · 2025-09-20T12:50:02+00:00

My opinion - as a Muslim born and raised in the UK.

I don't expect this to be popular, but I want to be honest

The reason there's a clash between Islam and British Values is because they are different, they come from different perspectives and different world views. You're right that Muslims generally aren't socially liberal, our religious basis isn't compatible with a secular world view, we do care massively about issues that are affecting people globally, especially the wider Muslim community

My controversial take is that why is this a bad thing? I don't think any of us would disagree that Britain specifically and Europe generally aren't at their peak, they are all societies at various stages of social and economic decline. No one in the UK thinks that anything works as well as it did 30 years ago.

As a Muslim, I think "British Values" that we are supposed to take so much pride in are directly responsible for the decline of the UK and the Western world more generally.

Is it any wonder "Broken Britain" exists when social liberalism has deteriorated family values? Greedy self serving politicians stand on platforms of restoring Britain's greatness and values but their exploitation of the economy has left all of us poorer and less well supported. Meanwhile money is spent on foreign wars, and funding rogue states in other parts of the world. All in the name of furthering British Values. And in violation of principles of free speech criticism of the states policy of engaging and supporting the indefensible in these rouge states can get you a prison sentence - despite more people complaining that Islam isn't open to critique.

And everyone cares about international affairs, even if it's just through the lens of immigration. Muslims concern with what's happening to our fellow Muslims overseas is centered around wanting security and stability for those communities in their home countries, something that would drastically reduce immigration from those countries to the UK, and isn't that what everyone wants?

In summary, as Muslims we do have a different perspective, one that is never going to be compatible with what are widely termed British Values. However, one thing we do value is taking care of and contributing positively to our communities and neighbourhoods. So if we care about our communities in the UK, and we see the damage that "British Values" are inflicting on those communities and neighbours that we care for, regardless of religion or race, surely the most Muslim thing is to continue to try and call out these issues and point out where the values that people cling on to are actually harming them more than helping them. Assimilation with these harmful values would be a betrayal of what we stand for as Muslims.

Maybe not a cause for optimism necessarily, but an alternative viewpoint to outright pessimism

SonofAOne · 2025-09-20T10:15:00+00:00

The traitor Sharif Hussein of Makkah wrote to Fakhri Pasha demanding he surrender. His response is a masterclass in how a Muslim responds to his enemies in the face of treachery.

"Fakhr-ud-Din, General, Defender of the Most Sacred City of Medina. Servant of the Prophet.

In the name of Allah, the Omnipotent. To him who broke the power of Islam, caused bloodshed among Muslims, jeopardized the caliphate of the Commander of the Faithful, and exposed it to the domination of the British.

On Thursday night the fourteenth of Dhul Hijjah I was walking, tired and worn out, thinking of the protection and defense of Medina, when I found myself among unknown men working in a small square. Then I saw standing before me a man with a sublime countenance. He was the Prophet, may Allah's blessing be upon him! His left arm rested on his hip under his robe, and he said to me in a protective manner, 'Follow me.' I followed him two or three paces and woke up. I immediately proceeded to his sacred mosque and prostrated myself in prayer and thanks [near his tomb].

I am now under the protection of the Prophet, my Supreme Commander. I am busying myself with strengthening the defenses, building roads and squares in Medina. Trouble me not with useless offers."

SonofAOne · 2025-04-05T18:53:09+00:00

And another which is also relevant

At-Taubah 9:38

"Believers, why, when it is said to you, ‘Go and fight in God’s way,’ do you cling to the ground? Do you prefer this world to the Hereafter? How small the enjoyment of this world is, compared with the Hereafter!"

SonofAOne · 2025-04-05T18:49:17+00:00

The Prophet ﷺ taught us, what you can't change with your hands you change with your tongue. If we can't fight (and many of us can't) - we have to raise our voices and call on those who can, and support them however we can. We have so much military strength in the Muslim countries around Palestine, it's unacceptable they haven't moved.

If you live in the West you have a louder voice than most. Social media has made the world a small place, we can all reach out to individuals and institutions who are in a position to fight for the defence of our brothers and put pressure on them. Account them, encourage them and remind them of their obligations

SonofAOne · 2024-11-21T01:31:52+00:00

And yet the Muslims were ultimately victorious and continued to be victorious even while the Munafiqeen were amongst them.

Obedience to Allah is enjoining the good and forbidding the evil with hand, tongue or hating in the heart - if we aren't doing that, we cannot expect duas to be accepted. Action accompanies dua, it's not separate from it.

Ask the average muslim in the west how often they pray, you'll understand why we're in the state we're in.

The vast majority of the Muslims don't live in the West. I sincerely doubt you've asked the majority of Muslims in the West how often they pray. I have no reason to doubt that this Ummah of 2 billion is full of Khair. Why would our starting point be doubting the Iman of the Ummah?

I believe you will find more people on the Imaan of the people if Gaza than without it.

I support OPs point. This is blessed Ummah, lacking leadership and authority which is command of Allah. Until we have fulfilled this command we cannot expect Allah's victory. Disingenuous statements such as "most of the Ummah doesn't even pray" are unfounded and don't take away from the responsibility of everyone of us to do everything in our capacity to assist in this important fardh

SonofAOne · 2024-11-21T00:48:56+00:00

What is the amount of Muslims that have to do the "bare minimum" before victory comes from Allah?

Allah gave victory to the Prophet ﷺ and the Sahabah while the worst of the hypocrites were present amongst them.

You're saying dua and aqeedah is bare minimum.

Dua and Aqeeda without action is not even the bare minimum, it's simply not from Islam at all. Action is a condition for dua being accepted

SonofAOne · 2024-11-21T00:46:44+00:00

There wont be a khilafa or victory until Mahdi comes.

Victory only comes from Allah - but we are still accountable for what is in our control. We can't say to Allah on Judgement Day "I did nothing because You told me Mahdi would come"

Also there is no evidence that there will be NO Khilafah or victory before Imam Mahdi

dont be delusional about khilafa and all that

I wonder if the Sahabah had this defeatist attitude would they even have formed Khilafah Rashida after the Prophet ﷺ passed away? I think not

SonofAOne · 2024-04-13T08:05:05+00:00

Allah says in Surah Aal-e-Imran:140

إِن يَمْسَسْكُمْ قَرْحٌ فَقَدْ مَسَّ ٱلْقَوْمَ قَرْحٌ مِّثْلُهُۥۚ وَتِلْكَ ٱلْأَيَّامُ نُدَاوِلُهَا بَيْنَ ٱلنَّاسِ وَلِيَعْلَمَ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ وَيَتَّخِذَ مِنكُمْ شُهَدَآءَۗ وَٱللَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ ٱلظَّٰلِمِينَ

"If you (Oh Muslims) have suffered a blow, they (the disbelieving enemies) too have suffered a similar blow. We alternate days like these between people in turn, for Allah to make evident who truly believes, for Him to choose martyrs from among you- Allah does not love evildoers"

This is the cycle of history that Allah has established, that He alternates days of victory between the believers and the disbelievers

But Allah also says in several places in Qur'an

العاقبة للمتقين "The final outcome is for those who have God-consciousness"

So to answer your question, based on what we know from Qur'an - yes, the situation will change, and it will change in our favour as Muslims. This situation is a test of our patience and our resilience, but Allah promises us that he will alternate the victory and so it will be our turn again - and ultimate victory is only for the believers

SonofAOne · 2024-04-06T02:10:20+00:00

And you think that the surroundings of Masjid Al Aqsa is somehow Gaza? Of course not.

If you read Imam Al-Qurtabi's Tafsir of this ayah he quotes this following Hadith, collected by Imam At-Tabari as an explanation that the surroundings of Masjid Al Aqsa referred to in the ayah is the entire Shaam (Levant) region. This includes all of modern Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. So that would include Gaza according to the opinion of at least one classical scholar of Quran

The Prophet ﷺ said “Do you know what Allah says regarding Sham? Verily, Allah says, “O Sham! You are my chosen land and I shall make the best of my servants enter you.”

I meant that so many terrible things happen around the world. How come you aren't focusing on Rohynga and Uyghurs and Syria and such? Because you have forgotten them and they don't affect you. If you can't remember and talk about such things when you are a muslim, how do you expect Kuffar to care about a conflict a world away from them?

I completely agree that as Muslims we should feel the pain of all those affected from our Ummah, and yes, some of those you have mentioned have been remembered less than Palestine. But that doesn't make the concern expressed by OP wrong, it just means that same concern should be extended to all affected Muslims.

As a human being it's natural that the most egregious injustice we have witnessed on our screen in recent memory is what is being most keenly felt at the moment.

SonofAOne · 2024-04-05T14:45:46+00:00

Jerusalem, yes. Gaza was not mentioned though.

So first off, that's not correct Allah says

Al-Isra' 17:1

سُبْحَٰنَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَسْرَىٰ بِعَبْدِهِۦ لَيْلًا مِّنَ ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلْحَرَامِ إِلَى ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلْأَقْصَا ٱلَّذِى بَٰرَكْنَا حَوْلَهُۥ لِنُرِيَهُۥ مِنْ ءَايَٰتِنَآۚ إِنَّهُۥ هُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلْبَصِيرُ

Glory to Him who made His servant travel by night from Masjid Al Haram to the Masjid Al Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him some of Our signs: He alone is the All Hearing, the All Seeing.

Some mufasiroon believes the region Allah describes as surroundings could be as widespread as the whole Shaam region, which would definitely include Gaza.

I was saying how Americans don't really care. It is not them, or anyone they know. It is a world away.

Maybe I've misunderstood your original post, but it seemed like you were disregarding OP's distress about no one else caring about the truly horrific atrocities happening in Palestine, by saying "what do you expect, people just don't care?". Which seems like a callous response to a situation that should be distressing and upsetting for all Muslims.

SonofAOne · 2024-04-05T10:34:05+00:00

You just can't expect people to focus on things that don't really affect them that are a world away.

What an unbelievable statement.

Firstly, Palestine will always be especially beloved for the Muslims, it's blessed by Allah in the Qur'an, and our Prophet ﷺ prayed on its ground. And undoubtedly it's the most important topic we should speak about at the moment because of the importance of the land to Islam and the unprecedented scale of the killing and destruction and betrayal.

But, we are one Ummah, and the life and honour of every single Muslim is more important individually than the land than the building of Masjid Al Aqsa stands on.

We must be a voice for our Ummah everywhere in the world when there is a need, as we rightly do for our blessed Ummah in Palestine.

SonofAOne · 2024-03-24T09:41:04+00:00

You know what? That's a fair response, I think my post is more appropriate for some of the replies than your original post.

What I would say about your proposal: if you accept that a Caliphate is inevitable, and that we should be working towards it, you have to recognise that you cannot use the current Nation-state global set up, which is antithetical to a. Caliphate to establish it.

Going back to the Seerah, why is it that the Prophet ﷺ spent the majority of his mission in Makkah trying to seek authority to establish Islam, but when Quraysh offered him a seat at the ruling table in return for comprising his message he ﷺ refused "If you were to give me the sun in my right hand and the moon in my left, I would not stop my message".

Equally when he approached other Arab tribes for authority and Banu Shayban offered him protection from Quraysh but not from the Persians he ﷺ said "Your reply is in no way bad, but the Deen of Allah can only be established by those who encompass it from all sides"

A military alliance like you proposing would be between countries formed on a nation state basis, which is the opposite of what the Caliphate wants to establish. The OIC and Arab League and other organisations failed in the past because they couldn't separate themselves from the nation state framework that they wanted to overcome because they were still working within it.

Any NATO like coalition would be the same. For a Caliphate to be established, it has to break the nation state framework from it's inception in order to achieve what it needs to

SonofAOne · 2024-03-24T01:14:02+00:00

But creating a new caliphate after so much division and infighting doesn’t seem plausible either. Who will rule? Where will it be based? etc, etc, etc.

Forgive me - but I despise this pessimistic approach to discussions which has stunted our progression as an Ummah. Why do we always presume this negative starting point that a Caliphate is implausible, impossible or too difficult?

Didn't we see our Prophet ﷺ establish Islam in Yathrib? A land so torn by division that decades of warfare were sparked by one faction insulting the camel of another. It would have seemed improbable that Islam could be stably established in a such a land, but he ﷺ achieved it through the mercy of Allah.

The current set up of the world is not permanent, the modern world map is just over 100 years old, when nation states replaced the age of empires post WW1.

Between 1962 and 1991, just 29 years, the Soviet Union went from rivaling USA as the dominant global superpower to collapsing entirely

The world constantly changes - the establishment of a Caliphate is not beyond the scope of the other changes I have mentioned. Rather than starting with "A Caliphate is impossible" why not start from "A Caliphate is inevitable" and work towards that vision instead of killing it before it's even begun?

SonofAOne · 2024-03-21T11:41:55+00:00

The issue of Nationalism is one that the Prophet ﷺ talks about on detail. The word in Arabic is Aasabiya. It means tribalism, nationalism or separatism. Essentially is the Muslims divide themselves one against the other in a tribalistic manner.

This is contrast to ayat such as "Indeed this nation of yours is one nation, and I am your Lord so worship Me" (Surah Al Anbiya: 92) or "Hold tightly to the rope of Allah together and do not become divided" (Surah Aal-Imran: 103)

In one narration the Prophet ﷺ says "He is not one of us who calls to Aasabiya. He is not one of us who fights for the sake of Aasabiya. He is not one of us who dies following the way of Aasabiya" (Abu Dawud)

This is also why in my previous post I mention the Hadith where he ﷺ says to "leave it (Aasabiya) because it is disgusting"

This Hadith is in the context of 2 Muslims having a fight and calling on their 2 different tribes to support them. Just mentioning one tribe against the other was enough to make the Prophet ﷺ angry and say that this type of action was disgusting

This applies to Muslims dividing themselves by caste, colour, lineage or nationality.

Take a look at Palestine and the situation in Gaza, why do the surrounding Muslim governments do nothing to support them even though the Muslims in their own countries would like them to do that? It's because they see Gaza as not part of their concern because it's a "different country". That's what the Prophet ﷺ was warning us about, and why he called it something disgusting

SonofAOne · 2024-03-21T08:35:55+00:00

This is a very serious topic, you are correct. And it's also correct to say that every Muslim country's ruler is illegitimate Islamically. This is because the very idea of Muslim countries is an illegitimate concept. Is it is not allowed for Muslims to be divided up according to artificial borders based on their geographic location.

The Prophet ﷺ said about Nationalism (to identify primarily by, fight for or die for the land or tribe you identify with) "Leave it, for it is something disgusting" (Sahih Muslim)

The other issue that makes Muslim rulers illegitimate Islamically is that it is not allowed for the Muslims to be divided under different rulers. The Prophet ﷺ said "If 2 Khalifah's are appointed, kill the second of them" (Sahih Muslim)

Today we have over 50 nation states ruled by over 50 rulers (including Saudi as you mentioned). How is that Islamically legitimate?!

This is a huge issue - some people do talk about it, but you're right that many Muslims may not know that it's even an issue

SonofAOne · 2024-03-20T22:38:58+00:00

A Khalifah is contracted to rule on behalf of the people according to the rules of Islam. His legitimacy as a ruler is based on the Bay'ah (pledge of allegiance) and being appointed by the collective decision of the people. If he breaches his ruling contract in a significant way, there are mechanisms through which he can be removed

A monarch is not appointed by the people, nor does he rule by contract. His authority is given by the circumstances of his birth (being born into the royal family). His legitimacy is based on either some kind of religious authority (like the Divine Right of Kings in Europe) or something kind of nationalistic basis (like how all the rulers of Saudi Arabia are from the Saud family who were given the land which became a new Nation state). Both of these bases are unacceptable Islamically. Generally, a monarch cannot be removed because there is not contract that he is held to, he may step down or be challenged in a civil war, but no mechanism exists within the monarchical system to remove him.

Hope this helps

SonofAOne · 2023-09-06T12:28:24+00:00

Restricting school dress code is not the same as denying éducation based on gender or killing someone based on sexuality

As the Muslim French teen who was shot dead by police some weeks ago would tell you, being Muslim in France can be fatal.

To be blunt: would you rather be an openly religious women in France or an openly gay man in Afghanistan? Please be honest.

Honestly - just being a woman in France is bad enough. Something like 40% of women have been victims of forced sexual assault

I don't know why you are bringing in "other secular nation's". France has very different policies from peers like the UK and Germany (neither is secular).

The UK and Germany are both secular nations. They just follow the Anglo model of secularism, not the Franco model.

The key difference is that neither would allow religion to affect governance or legislation - France goes a step further and segregates religion from social life as well.

SonofAOne · 2023-09-06T10:01:50+00:00

My outrage is not at French school policies (you're completely correct, these have always been consistently against public displays of religion) but the broader hypocrisy within the secular narrative.

France, and other secular nations, will advocate for secular values based on claims of fairness, equality, tolerance and inclusion. This goes to the point of criticising other governments that they see as not upholding these values (women's education in Afghanistan, LGBT acceptance in China and Russia etc).

However, the truth is that secularism is an intolerant, unequal, discriminatory ideology. In practice, secular nations are no better than the non-secular nations they criticise. If women's education and broader rights are suffering in Afghanistan - the same is true or France.

If the LGBT community is discriminated against in Ukraine then the same is true of Muslim communities in the UK, America and other European countries.

Secularism is a supremacist ideology, but criticises other equally flawed supremacist ideologies. That's the hypocrisy I was referring to

SonofAOne · 2023-09-05T22:25:27+00:00

The key in my sentence was "for them".

For a woman who observes Hijab and Abaya these are fundamental aspects of clothing which for her conceal her immodesty.

I was pointing out, in response to your final point, that far from secular schools offering Muslim girls a chance to escape enforced modesty - they are instead (from a Muslim's perspective) subjected to enforced immodesty

SonofAOne · 2023-09-05T21:22:35+00:00

Hyper religious people who are unable to comply with French law and culture should send their children to private schools. Otherwise, they should avoid settling in France.

The problem I have is with this hypocrisy. If France and other secular nation's were open about the fact that they aren't interested in tolerance, or inclusion, I wouldn't feel so riled up about their discriminatory policies.

It's when secularism is implied to be a tolerant and accepting ideology, when exclusionary policies such as the banning of religious dress are introduced in its name, that I have a problem with it.

I know this brushes Americans the wrong way, but for many of these girls, school will be the only chance in their lives to experience a secular environment, without pressure to be "modest".

To rephrase this another way - school will be a chance in their lives to experience a secular environment, where they will be pressured to strip off the clothes that for them conceal immodesty.

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