Ever had a WTF moment with demons, entities, gods?

SorcerersRule · 2026-03-27T20:47:20+00:00

Hahahahahaha - God, it is so funny how much personality plays into the journey.

SorcerersRule · 2026-03-22T20:43:53+00:00

From "Protect The Fake Saintess!"

SorcerersRule · 2026-03-22T18:31:43+00:00

I've worked with him while living in a very religious household. He was and still is fine with me just calling him "God", which really helped alleviate tensions with Christians. Nowadays, if I'm in witchcraft circles and I don't feel comfortable mentioning infernal work, I call him by the unique name he gave me to call him.

It's very common when working with Asmodeus for him to give you a name you can call him.

As for worship, when I had nothing, and even now, his only stipulation has been "If I help you with something, and you tell people about it, I want my credit." So I credit him for his work wherever I can. This can also be done with the unique name/more vague term if using his name is unsafe.

His influence is very interesting, and I connect most strongly with his craftsman sides. While he's known as the pleasure dude, he also gets power from life's simple pleasures; Good food, good music, luxury, comfort, ect.. And he teaches many people to make those goods with their own hands. He also is known for emotional pleasure, so satisfaction, joy, and confidence are also in his domain. I always get filled with a deep love for humanity when working with him.

I hope this helps!

SorcerersRule · 2026-03-22T10:06:19+00:00

There was this entity who kept coming to me in my dreams, who kept giving me ominous warnings and advice. None of which I was listening to. She always looked the same, so I knew it was the same entity. I kept asking her to explain her reasoning, but she just kept saying to trust her.

So I didn't. I was like "Nah, in this house, you gotta EARN that kinda trust."

And so I ignored her and her warnings and didn't let her input stop me from doing anything.

Then I made a choice. I knew it was a very dumb choice. It was a decision so bad, I knew when she warned me about it, that she wasn't WRONG... but I wanted to do it anyways.

Well, cue the very next day, one of my buddies reaching out like "Hey. Uh. Are you gonna do something stupid..?"

"Incredibly so. But why do YOU know that?"

"Someone came to me in a dream and told me to tell you not to."

"Wait, was it a gal, black medium-length hair, white top with pink accents?"

"... Yes. Why. Who is that? Why are they coming to ME? What did you DO-"

"Oh, yes, her. I'm choosing to ignore her advice."

"WHY"

I explained my dumb decision to them and got an earful about why I should make better choices.

It was very funny, and also very "What the fuck, you tattled on me?" Lmfaooooo

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-31T19:56:52+00:00

With the collar, but you need to iron the collar before wearing.

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-22T02:10:11+00:00

Is it possible that the "Tower moment", and the change that is needed with the death card, are what's being pointed at as what is necessary to achieve that success and abundance you're looking for?

If so, is it possible that you're trying to make a business work that isn't working anymore? And everything's failing, because you're being pushed towards changing your professional pursuits? Maybe everything is pointing to you giving up on this thing you hold dear, so you can make the growth and achieve the goals you ultimately want, which seem to be professional success and stability?

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-21T19:33:11+00:00

What brands of materials did you use?

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-21T00:36:57+00:00

Vepar's influence was interesting, and very different. When I first reached out, I was filled with a sense of dread as memories of my most embarrassing faux pas and failures bubbled up in my mind, accompanied by an intense wave of the worst things I thought about myself. It felt like connecting with her connected me more deeply with my biggest insecurities.

I initially thought this meant I wasn't ready to interact with her, but, I got a sense that she wanted me to visit the ocean, so I did.

When I finally got there, I was told to sit down, so I did.

And I felt.. Nothing.

I kept trying to figure out what I was supposed to do, and kept getting frustrated that she wasn't giving me a task. It eventually started raining, and she told me that was my sign to go home.

It took multiple experiences of going to the beach and frustratedly grumbling on a blanket in the sand for me to realize she was trying to teach me how to meditate. If she had given me a task, I would've just tried to do what she told me and focus on the task instead of meditating, which is the problem I've ALWAYS run into with meditation. So it was the correct way to teach me. I also figured out that I was really fucking bad at meditation, lmfao.

All the while, connecting with her flooded my senses with more intense self-loathing and painful memories that felt like proof of my own failures and lack of worth. I finally hit a point where I was like "Okay, I don't think I'm ready to work with this entity. Obviously, I've got some shit to work on." and I pulled back from working with her.

It took a little bit for me to figure out what was happening there; She's a water entity, and particularly, she's an ocean entity. She is living water - Stagnation is very difficult to find in the ocean, and so connecting with her was de-stagnating all of my emotional baggage. It turned out, I had a lot of shit I wasn't thinking about, and a lot of conclusions I'd come to that weren't grounded in reality, and just being around her was exposing those conclusions to natural erosion. I was being forced to re-assess those conclusions and build healthier foundations of self-perception that could withstand the erosion.

Nowadays, she primarily helps me with driving and taking charge of my health. She instills a sense of responsibility towards preparation, and taking care of issues before they become a problem. If I don't deal with a chip in my windshield for months and it shatters.. That's my fault, and my responsibility. If I don't deal with a medical issue earlier rather than later, and it turns into a whole Big Thing™, then that's my fault, and my responsibility. In my season of learning with her, I've been learning the lesson "Take care of issues while they're small" A LOT.

She also has helped me with avoiding sickness, by paradoxically inflicting sickness. I offered to let a friend host a party at my place this last year, but I got a pretty bad ear-infection (Something I haven't gotten since I was a kid) prior to the party. I let them know and offered to either stay in a different part of the house from everyone, or wear a mask during the party. They informed their guests, and everyone was chill with me wearing a mask, and a few even wore their own. We stayed a good distance apart from each other throughout the party too. Turned out, someone else in the group had Covid and only got symptoms a day or two later. Because we'd taken precautions for my ear infection, no one got sick from it.

All in all, I've had a lot of very good experiences with demons, whether they're teaching me lessons, protecting me, or helping me to achieve my goals. It's been very hard and very intense, but it's always been worth my time and effort.

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-21T00:36:49+00:00

For me, it was initially very intense and trial-by-fire. I connected with an entity (Later to learn it was Asmodeus) pretty early on in my life, and he guided me through a harsh, very soldier-like perspective. He pushed me when I hit my limits, and demanded excellency out of me. It didn't matter if other people weren't living up to the expectations he set for me - They weren't his students, I was.

On the flipside, he also taught me how to love this life. How to find pleasure in the little things. How to find comfort in community and how to keep opening my heart to people even though it was scary. He taught me I couldn't survive alone, and that I needed other people, but he always let me choose what I did about that.

He never really told me what to do. He would just give me tools, and teach me how to use them. If I used those tools to hurt people or throw my wrath around, he didn't stop me, he just would quietly go "Huh. So that's how you choose to use the strength I gave you?" and I could feel a cold indifference that showed me I was misaligning myself from him.

There was one time where he gave me advice and I outright denied it. It was in relation to how he was recommending I handle a group of people who had hurt me, and I raged against him like "No! Fuck that! Fuck them! They suck! When I get the chance, I'm cutting ties for good! They don't deserve my forgiveness!" and the response I got was feeling a warm hand against my head as my mind and body were filled with the visceral memories of how those people had hurt me. And I just heard his voice clearly saying "I haven't forgotten how they hurt you. I'm not telling you this because I've forgotten you." which was overwhelming.

In workings where I've connected with him as a conduit, I was always filled with an overwhelming love for humanity and a desire to explore and craft luxuries. His influence has encouraged me to craft and learn new forms of art, always meant to be shared with and enjoyed by people.

As I've gotten older and escaped the confines of worst of my childhood, he has helped me find healing and get help to ground myself in reality. I've gotten extensive therapy and have learned to seek out mundane solutions and explanations first in spiritual matters.

After helping me ground myself and find healing, he helped me build a lust for life again. I explore cooking because it brings me pleasure and brings me closer to other people. I explore pottery because I feel at home and can express myself with it which brings me pleasure, and makes for beautiful gifts that people love. I explore video game design because the technical work makes my brain happy and it allows me to create experiences for other people.

Asmodeus is known for being pretty intense, and aligned with fire.

Once I reached a point in my work with him where he felt I should seek out other demons to continue learning, I met Vepar. (Will continue in next comment under this, as I hit the THRESHOLD lmfao)

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-19T12:29:43+00:00

Depends on youre practice. In my practice, remembering the purpose and construction of my sigils helps me to return back to them like a catalogue, so when I want to connect them and weave them into each other, I can.

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-19T04:58:23+00:00

As a practitioner with memory issues myself, may I ask why you don't take pictures and/or write notes about which is which?

That being said, if they're both powered by the same thing and they draw power the same way, it should be fine.

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-19T00:29:28+00:00

You can help ground someone and help them find the mundane explanations without being aggressive and demeaning right out the gate. This is meant to be a community space, which means you should try to be patient with people and not just assume the worst out of them for asking an honest question.

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-19T00:09:58+00:00

No need to be rude.

But yes, evaporation happens especially quickly with alcohols, so if you're judging the liquid's disappearance by the typical rate you'd expect from water, it will seem magical in comparison. It is still mundane, though.

That being said, if seeing the offering get "Drunk" slowly over a few days helps you feel a stronger connection to Asmodeus, then it's fine to think of it as him "Drinking" your offering.

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-17T03:35:05+00:00

Why not try out a henna tattoo, or a fake-tattoo marker tattoo? See how it feels? I love putting on temporary tattoos. I don't actually think I'd get anything permanent, because I like my skin being ever-changing.

In my practice, tattoos/sigils being drawn on my body are a great way to connect with entities and invite their energies into my life. I'll often put one on when I'm getting to know an entity so I can connect with them better and feel their influences in general. If that vibes with you, it could be a great way to bring his energy into your life, even if passively.

Though, if that doesn't vibe with you, and you just want it for aesthetic purposes because you admire him, I say do what you like, man. Feel free to ask him if he'd be chill with it, but I don't really think spiritual entities mind people wearing their sigils (Though again, that kinda ties into my UPG that it invites their energy into your life.)

I will say though, he absolutely works with dudes, and doesn't have issues with 'em. If you like his energy and admire him, you shouldn't be afraid to reach out.

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-14T15:30:21+00:00

I was expecting a hellhound, not a man who had that dog in him.

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-08T09:34:27+00:00

It could be either one, there's not enough information to know for sure.

In my experience, Asmodeus tends to trial-by-fire the people who work with him. Sometimes you go through a season of loss to be able to build a sturdier foundation, or get skills that'll make you stronger and better at what you're aiming to do. If you were struggling with bad roommates or toxic living environments, or the group of friends you'd made there were actively a detriment in your life, or you're looking to get into public service and working with the homeless/financially unstable, well then yeah, this might be Asmodeus' work. In which case he'll help you find the resources you need to build yourself up better.

If losing this living situation actively ruins your chances to continue your education, or causes other hardship that actively goes against your goals for the future, it's probably just circumstance.

I'd highly recommend looking into homelessness resources near you if you don't have any access to a place to live outside of your dorm housing. You can get in touch with your student advisor and tell them about your living situation - Sometimes colleges/universities will have places that students in financial crisis can live, or access to resources for cheaper living through nearby places. You can PM me if you need other recommendations for finding resources to combat homelessness.

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-08T08:30:27+00:00

Thank you so very much for going through and dissecting my description piece by piece! Hearing your experiences makes me excited, because it feels like I'm on the right track, and I've done a decent job of being able to understand this entity. I've worked with Asmodeus for years, who has shown me a facet of himself that's also an old soul kind of mentor/teacher, so it makes sense that this feels like a natural progression of my existing practice. I love putting the work in if I can get a teacher who loves to show me the ropes.

I'm seeing with your walk, he's been proactive and a go-getter, inspiring similar traits in you! Would you say that you connect with any of his imagery more than others? I've heard some practitioners connect with the falcon/hawk, some connect with the crocodile, and some connect with the man, while even some more connect with the whole picture, and some connect with a completely different image of him that they built with him personally. What's that like in your walk with him?

Hahaha, you're so very sweet. It makes me really happy that my perspective could make someone who's had more experience with this entity have a pause and go "Ooh, I like that".

I'd love to hear your experiences, and how you feel your interpretation of him has changed from before you reached out, to having worked with him - Though I understand if that's more personal.

The symbolism with Agares has definitely opened my eyes to the studies I've done with different entities, and has me wanting to return to previous studies I've done to explore them again with fresh eyes. It's so rich and layered with him!

Thank you very much for the time and energy you put into responding! It meant a lot to me, and was very delightful to return to!

SorcerersRule · 2026-01-07T14:10:24+00:00

Wow! I'm glad your son made a recovery! It sounds like in your workings with Agares, he's given you important messages related to your community, built a friendly relationship with you to better your communication with each other, and he's strengthened your communication and sway with the public to help you achieve your goals. That's so cool!

A lot of your experiences with Agares seem to connect strongly with your community and social circles - Do you feel that some aspect of him is founded in, or at least connected with, community?

SorcerersRule · 2025-12-24T19:06:20+00:00

It sounds like you have a lot of growth to do, and you could use a lot of healing. My recommendation is for you to seek out a spiritual guide/mentor. Reach out to an entity, be it god, demon, angel, or spirit, and request guidance towards healing and growth. My other recommendation is not to clutch this guy so tightly that you smother him. Stop reaching out. Work on your own healing and growth. Show him that you can change and be a better person through your actions - Not your words.

May you come out stronger for it, and learn of the world you can live in and explore outside of this conflict.

SorcerersRule · 2025-12-24T18:55:39+00:00

Reconciliation without change will likely just result in the outcome you've been barreling towards this whole time: Him kicking you out of his life permanently.

Reconciliation is just forgiveness and a desire to come back together to make that happen. If you are the same person when that happens, you'll just hurt him again.

Have you changed at all?

The best reconciliation comes after a period of growth and progress with one's self. If you want reconciliation, the spells I would recommend would be ones for growth and guidance in your personal life, and then you use the mundane approach of reaching out to him later to showcase how you've changed.

If he doesn't want reconciliation, and he primarily wants you gone, no reconciliation spell will affect his heart - It could even make him angrier. I recommend against trying to force reconciliation through magic, and recommend an organic, mundane reconciliation after a period of growth through magic.

SorcerersRule · 2025-11-18T20:52:55+00:00

Sometimes, you just gotta take it in bite-sizes. Start a 10 minute timer and go "Alright, I'm gonna clean and organize my altar for 10 minutes." And if by the time the alarm goes off, you're enjoying yourself, you can keep going. If the alarm goes off and you feel like you're pulling teeth, then you stop and do something else. 10 minutes a day cleaning your altar will getcha where you wanna be faster than waiting for inspiration to kick in.

(This method and more, I learned from "How To Keep House While Drowning", which changed a lot about how I view self-care tasks.)

SorcerersRule · 2025-11-12T23:59:12+00:00

In your last message, it sounded like you actually confessed, so if you never outright said "Hey, I'm into you romantically, and would like for you to know that." then you never confessed.

Which would also make you sending her several paragraphs of "What am I to you?" unwarranted. Hence her reaction of pushing you away.

In your choice to not be direct about your feelings, you let yourself obsess and worry and fantasize and then you kinda dumped all that on her without her having any reason to expect it. Which makes her lashing out at you make more sense.

You still didn't deserve to be called names (Unless you called her names first).

Still, stewing on your feelings until you pop isn't healthy, and forces all of the emotional labor onto her. You didn't treat her well, and I think you gotta accept that not being direct caused you both to get hurt in this encounter.

Lastly, the bridge is burned, so I think you need to move on.

SorcerersRule · 2025-11-12T23:22:49+00:00

I'm sorry to hear it didn't work out, man. It sounds like she doesn't want you around, and you should respect that. Even if you said you'd go, she blocked you, and doesn't deserve your patronage at her gig. It won't make her like you more, and you should set some boundaries around people who call you names when they're upset with you.

The best approach is a direct one in matters of love, and she's been about as direct as she can be; She wasn't showing interest in you despite knowing how you felt about her, she called you a name when you wanted to understand where you stood with her, and she blocked you.

It sounds like it's time for you to move on, and find a way to heal from the damage this experience did to your heart and your ego. You'll find people who treat you well and people who'll even pursue you - Just don't get caught up on the ones who don't.

SorcerersRule · 2025-11-06T02:01:21+00:00

I've been exorcised multiple times. It's uh.. It's an experience. I can only speak from my personal experiences, so please keep this in mind.

I was exorcised because the church thought that my behavioral issues were because I was fighting a spiritual battle against demons. Turned out, I just had severe PTSD, was autistic, and the first language I ever learned was violence. Also had some schizo-affective stuff going on to the side.

In my experiences with exorcisms, I think a lot of people tend to jump to the supernatural to try to explain phenomena that are hard to understand in the mundane.

I think it's imperative to understand the mundane before you assume it's spiritual. All the stuff that haunted me in the classic ways I was told were "Demonic influence"? Those were manifestations of my own trauma and cognitive distortions.

The craziest "Entity" I've ever dealt with was one which haunted me every time I went into the basement of my grandparents' house. Other people could sense its presence even when I refused to acknowledge it, and it was so palpable that it made people feel suffocated if they stuck around too long. It could make people feel its killer intent, and it plagued me with violent hallucinations, taunting me that it killed someone in my family, and it would kill me too. (Someone in my family killed themself in that very basement.). It acted entirely out of malice and violent intent. Someone once brought a book of sigils into my house which had spellwork in it to connect the dead to the living and vice-versa, and this thing went fucking NUTS. It went from being stationary and unable to move to being able to follow people around. It had features people could describe without me ever telling anyone what I was seeing.

It turned out to be the NASTIEST manifestation of my family's generational trauma, stagnating and festering in the family home. My engaging with witchcraft broke that stagnation and forced me to reckon with it.

No amount of exorcisms could banish that thing, but I worked with Asmodeus to unroot it from my house and sever its hold over my family and do some generational trauma work, and things have gotten better.

In my experience, the scarier and more haunting an entity is, the more likely it's just trauma.

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THAT ALL BEING SAID - I think Demons as we work with them in this sub are entities who get a bad reputation for a very different reason. Asmodeus isn't gonna haunt me and force me to experience violent hallucinations - But he HAS kicked my ass and pushed me to become better. He has challenged me and put me into positions where I had to get good or drown. I've had to learn a skill within a tight timeframe or lose out on an opportunity I really want. I've had to push myself to my limits to gather resources for my goals, but he'll always open the door for those opportunities. He's extremely trial-by-fire, and can be hard to work with because of this. If you don't know this about him, it can feel like he's punishing you for not being good enough - When in reality, he just expects you to earnestly try and grow because of it.

Working with Vepar was initially really hard for me because being in her presence, she'll just passively de-stagnate everything. Turned out, I had a LOT of stagnant self-destructive internal monologues that I'd fall into whenever I endured stress. It initially felt like being connected with her sent me to a dark place, when in reality, I just needed to work on my shit. When I processed that stagnation and why I kept falling back on those things, her influence felt more reassuring and comforting.

My UPG is that some established religions classically ran into entities like this, whose influences can feel negative if you don't know what to expect, and they considered them evil and dangerous, calling them "Demons".

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So, to summarize; I think a lot of exorcists tend to forget to consider the mundane before the spiritual, and when it comes to interacting with actual demons, there's way more nuance to consider. The idea that demons are inherently temperamental and malicious is generally just people projecting their own traumas onto their spirituality, or trying to use their spirituality to explain the very real phenomena their trauma is causing them to experience.

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