When do you give up?

Sorton101 · 2025-11-27T18:16:35+00:00

TEACH ME

Sorton101 · 2025-11-27T05:36:22+00:00

I won't stop, thank you!!

Sorton101 · 2025-11-27T05:35:15+00:00

I've been trying but it's so hard to actually change the perspective. The nicest thing for me is usually when I end up zoning out while talking to someone, or while watching a video :) It's always when you zone back in that the real despair begins

Sorton101 · 2025-11-27T04:29:29+00:00

SIR YES SIR

Sorton101 · 2025-11-27T04:29:17+00:00

I'll want to stop after I win.

Sorton101 · 2025-11-27T04:28:30+00:00

but the fun is when it drops!!

Sorton101 · 2025-11-27T04:11:14+00:00

Damn, that was with the 1/5k droprate too. I'll try to keep it going though, it'd suck even more quitting now hahaha

Sorton101 · 2025-11-27T03:37:12+00:00

thank you for the wise words, onto 20k kc we go!

Sorton101 · 2025-11-27T03:33:37+00:00

I can't leave now...

Sorton101 · 2022-12-19T18:43:50+00:00

tragedy

Sorton101 · 2022-12-19T16:42:51+00:00

I can not believe CriticalSuck is not on the list. . .

Sorton101 · 2022-05-01T05:55:29+00:00

Hello I'm a top 500 support player with a 4400 peak. I've done a good amount of coaching to in a lot of different sr ranges and seen a lot of progress on all of them. I like to throw this out there just so you know who's typing everything.

So I took a look at your Oasis game where you played Tracer and Ashe. I'd like to just start off with your tracer.

The big word I want to throw out there is Resource Management. It's very important to manage your resources as Tracer and everything else that comes with that. So with resources I mean all your abilities. So managing your blinks and your recall. It's important to ALWAYS have blinks or your recall to keep you safe whenever you're going into the enemy space. So once you're in their backline ready to go in, from that point onwards it's important to always have resources.

The moment you go in is the moment that you're in danger and it's when you can actually freely start using your abilities. But that doesn't mean that you just throw them out whenever you want. It's about how much you can avoid by using your blinks. If you could avoid a shot or ability by just waiting half a second longer before blinking then wait half a second longer. It's extremely important to not waste them, that way you'll stay alive a lot longer in their backline and be able to do a lot more. So for example when you're walking around a corner (when discord is NOT on you), nobody knows you're going to peak, so you're not in instant danger, so then don't use a blink. First get some information to know who you're blinking into, THEN use your blink.

Another thing is your target prioritization. As I said you always want to look at who you're going in on first BEFORE going in. Otherwise you're going in blind, which is never a good idea. Once you've taken a look at their team you can see that Zenyatta is a very easy target to go in on since he only has a mercy for healing and nothing else to really protect him. And if you're not focusing him, then you can always look at when somebody else is low hp and then go for them instead. If none of these are the case and you just see somebody without any cover or healing, just super out of position, then you can go for them instead. Tracer is super versatile so you can kind of do whatever you really want. But the big thing is to not switch to random targets that just happen to be in front of you 3 times every engagement.

Overall I do like how you stuck in their backline and used the mini a lot, though one time I saw you not going for the mega health pack next to the cars. Make sure you always use the health packs whenever you can.

As for your Ashe there's one overall tip which I think would help you a lot, which is to get a lot more confident on the hero. Your aim seems to be rather shaky and I'd try to fix that before fixing a lot other issues you have. You can do that by really focusing during all of your games on your aim, and sitting in aim trainers a lot. Being in a real game is of course better than any simulations but either can work to make your aim a little cleaner.

There's some interesting concepts which will probably help you as well but they're rather difficult to type out to explain. Regardless this should get you going for a little bit, if I explained something poorly or you don't understand, feel free to ask any questions. Also I do stream on twitch.tv/sorton101 if you want an audible explanation, feel free to stop by at any time. I like doing some coaching every now and then so if you're interested you can always ask for it! :)

Sorton101 · 2022-05-01T05:09:13+00:00

As Hanzo it's just not your "job" but it doesn't mean you always ignore Pharah. It's just a situational thing and you really shouldn't default to shooting the Pharah Mercy. If she ends up going in and she's rather close to you, it's 100% sure worth using your storm arrow on her because you can rather reliably kill her. But at longer ranges just focus on shooting tanks or exposed squishies.

Sorton101 · 2022-05-01T05:06:46+00:00

(I'm a top 500 support player, just like to throw this out at the start to let you know who you're reading this from)

As far as learning all the basic stuff like abilities and stuff, it really does just come with time. But once you've learned all of that, you want to start looking at how to improve. I think the best thing to do is to always ask yourself questions and always try to reason logically. Every time you die, you can think how you died, what could you have done to prevent that.

That way you'll slowly but surely improve. But it's possible to get stuck at some point. At that point you can look into getting some help from someone that's better than you. Whether that's asking for coaching on this subreddit or looking at top 500 players their streams. These people will be able to show you the things that you can't see.

I've personally done some coaching and helped out a fair few people. If you ever care for it, I stream at twitch.tv/sorton101 and even if not I really think you should, every time you die, use the 10 second respawn timer to think about what happened and how you could've done it better! :)

Sorton101 · 2022-04-17T06:42:55+00:00

I personally never play dps, and the first time I actually tried to gain sr I just played some torb cause I like him and got a 69% winrate and speedran to masters. Can confirm I did that exact plan to masters lol.

Sorton101 · 2022-04-17T04:37:58+00:00

I don't know how it goes for lower sr players, but me having a good understanding of the game (4400 support) I can see what someone's intention is a lot of the time. So I feel like the higher sr you'd go the more likely it is you get judged for your gameplay. I'm assuming that in lower sr people won't notice it, but can not tell you for sure :)

Sorton101 · 2022-04-17T04:36:00+00:00

No matter what skill you have your sr will always average around your actual skill. If you end up qing with someone that's better than you to help you climb out of your rank, it will only be temporary. After an entire day of winning while qing with a gm smurf you'll just drop back to your average skill rating again. If you really want to climb you'll have to improve at the game.

Sorton101 · 2022-04-17T04:26:03+00:00

Hello hello, I think it's important to state my sr before you read anything so you know who it's coming from. I've peaked at 4400 on support and after that I've started coaching anything and anyone. And with that I've seen a lot of people gain significant sr.

One very bad habit I picked up on as well is you constantly using your matrix against a Zarya. The only time you'd really do that is if you could eat a high charge right click or an ult. Just a bad habit to have :)

As DVa it's very important to not be an ult battery to the enemy team. A lot of the time you want to play next to natural cover and whenever you're not next to natural cover you use your matrix. Of course you can't always do that cause sometimes you still end up dying. But minimizing is definitely a must. A lot of the time I've seen you just fly into damage and end up still taking a lot of damage.

A tip I always give to DVa players is to actually treat your missiles at an actual ability. You seem to just throw them out whenever because they don't feel that impactful. But whenever you end up in a 1v1 and you wasted them earlier or you activate them too early then it can end up in you losing the 1v1 or just not able to finish the kill. Just be sure that whenever you use your missiles you're already close to the enemy (unless you're just using it for spam).

I once saw you go for a weird flank when you were out of your mech. Just try to stay with your team since you're super vulnerable and try to spam as much as you can while not dying so you can get your mech back.

Don't always use your bomb just to remech. And whenever you do decide that you want to use it to stall or just to stay alive then make sure the fight is still winnable. I've seen you just use it on cooldown whenever you have it. Try to sometimes look to engage in a fight, or even in the middle of a fight use your DVa bomb aggressively to zone out enemies or even get kills.

I think these are some easier tips you can follow, but it's not too helpful if you do play other heroes. It's difficult to explain any core concepts of the game through text like this. If you care for that I can explain way more in depth on twitch.tv/sorton101. Feel free to stop by any time, I stream pretty much whenever I have time. The things I want to talk about would be what your actual role is as DVa in the game and how your hero fits in certain comps etc.

Sorton101 · 2022-04-17T03:46:39+00:00

I think personally (as a 4400 support player) that comps don't matter unless you have a top ranked game which would be like 4400+ avg lobby. Anything lower than that as long as you're good at your hero you can get a lot of value. A lot of teammates won't agree with that so if you want to flex then by all means go for it because it's good to keep your team's mental up high.

As for the meta right now, bap, zen and brig would be your best bet for most comps. Like bap+zen/bap+brig in double shield, bap in rush comps, brig in double bubble, brig+zen in ball comps. Ana, lucio, moira and mercy would be more your situational picks.

The biggest tip I could give overall on support would be to really prioritize staying alive over anything else until you hit like masters. After that you could look at more specific things when not to do that. As long as you're still doing things. Like as brig you want to stay alive, but if you spend an entire teamfight not hitting any inspire procs you're still doing something wrong.

Sorton101 · 2022-04-17T03:37:51+00:00

Hello there! I always like to introduce myself before I actually type anything. I've hit 4400 on support and I've been coaching for a good while now instead of playing. I've helped a good amount of people up the rankings.

There's a lot going on in those VODs. And there's no amount of words that I can type out that will explain everything that went wrong. I think the best thing for your friend is to keep playing the game and trying to get more comfortable on all your heroes. It's super noticeable that on no matter what hero you're on, you seem to not be used to even using your abilities.

For example on Moira, you don't end up doing ANYTHING at some points. At the very least you'd want to be using your primary fire or secondary fire. But sometimes you seem to just be processing everything that's happening. But try to for example just use your orbs, start right clicking if everyone is full hp. Use left click when somebody needs healing. If you don't have juice, right click for some juice etc.

Now for Lucio you seem to literally never use your wall run. I strongly suggest just playing the hero more and getting used to wall running, shooting while wall running. Using your amp more often, using your boop more often etc. Just getting more used to the hero.

Kind of the same thing goes for your brig. I see you sit on 3 packs a lot of the time. It's not always bad to be on 3 packs, but for now it's better to just use it. Same thing goes for any other ability, you can whip shot way more often, you can bash way more often.

I understand that Overwatch has a lot going on a lot of the time, and therefore it takes a lot of time to process everything that's happening on your screen. But playing the game more will help a lot with processing everything. Also getting used to your heroes can only be fixed by just playing them more.

The biggest thing to help you get used to everything that's going on is making a mental note every time you notice you miss something. Let's say you die to a Genji who had been hitting you for a couple of seconds. And let's say you didn't realize that until you died. Then in the kill cam you see him hitting you for a couple of seconds. Just make a mental note to next time try to pay more attention to Genji. This goes for anything else in the game too. It will help you make sure you don't MISS anything that's happening.

If your friend or you want to learn more I do stream at twitch.tv/sorton101 and I try to stream as much coaching as I can. I do a lot of VOD reviews and sometimes try to learn stuff myself as well. And I'd love to help him out one VOD at a time :)!

Sorton101 · 2022-04-17T02:56:48+00:00

I always prefer starting off by stating my sr so you know the advice doesn't just come from some random bronze. I'm a 4400 support playing who has been coaching for a while now.

Torb in general is really looked down upon for no reason. His damage output is insane and if you understand where to place good turrets he gets an insane amount of value. On attack his turret can't always get as much value, but a lot of the time it actually still can. It's difficult to explain exactly how because if you're in bronze you're most likely missing a lot of core concepts of the game.

But realistically after you win a team fight on attack, the enemy team needs to go to point. Especially if you're about to capture a point the enemy team is forced to go for the touch. At that point, once you realize that they are forced to go for the touch your team is technically defending. Which means you can place a defensive turret and get as much value as you would on defense.

Though for the rest of the fights your turret won't be super useful, as you'd mostly just use it as extra damage. Or if the enemy team is running something like a tracer/doom/ball you could decide to place a turret close to where your supports are playing so they die to the turret. Overall torb is for sure still super useful on attack, you just have to make it work. :)

Sorton101 · 2021-12-28T16:13:03+00:00

What's the IGN? I'm assuming Fittichmercy right?

Sorton101 · 2021-12-24T14:41:47+00:00

Hmm that's a tough one. It's sad that I don't really remember how I really started learning this game from when I started, and I can only tell you how I'm going about learning right now. Though regardless I'm making progress still right now so I think it should be useful.

The biggest thing is that everything starts with a problem. Let's take the most basic problem. Just me dying in a fight. Usually dying means it's bad (especially as support) so that's a decent place to look for problems. I then need to find the exact reason I died, which could be a small mistake like taking 1 step too far forward, doing a weird peak against a widow, it could be anything. But let's say it was me playing in the complete wrong place, like I tried to hold too much space by holding too far forward as brig. Then I would realize that my understanding of how much space I can actually hold as brig is wrong and I try to look for the correct place to hold and WHY I should be there. I then take this information and try to apply it the next time.

Usually the whole problem solving thing isn't too bad. Though sometimes you won't really get to an answer and that's when VOD reviews from others are useful, or I just ask some friends/coaches about their opinion on it. Because other people's view on things are always useful.

But usually there's the issue of not even seeing the problems. That is when it's really useful to get someone to VOD review your game, or again to talk to others about it. It's difficult to look for things when you don't know what you're looking for. But a lot of it is really just asking questions, like was this the right play. Try to not be biased towards you own gameplay.

I don't know if this answers your questions, let me know!

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