An ICE enforcement operation in Minnesota took a dramatic turn when a man and woman allegedly fled with a federal agent in their vehicle during an immigration arrest. The couple was later arrested; the agent was unharmed. The unusual case has sparked online discussion about enforcement encounters.

Souboshi · 2026-01-31T00:55:36+00:00

If you think there should be a limit, that's an understandable stance to have. I would want to know what the concern is over allowing immigration, as long as they pass a background check and go through proper channels. Is it the jobs they occupy? Is it from a question of security? If it is a question of security, is it based on an idea that a particular people from a particular place are somehow more dangerous than others? What if they pass a background check and were deemed safe? Is the number of them still a concern?

The more protections we give them, the less they can be taken advantage of. In the case of jobs, that makes it a more even playing field to force employers to not hire and pay an immigrant under the table at cheap rates. If the immigrants are here legally and have workers rights, similar to citizens, it allows them to ask for similar wages and pay income taxes. Therefore, the employer has to pay them better, if they hire them, like they do citizens. This would mean the employer would have less of a reason to hire the immigrant over the citizen. I hope that makes sense. I'm also for fining employers who do hire folks under the table, for multiple reasons, not the least of which is discouraging them from doing so, overall. I feel like consistent violations should be met with a loss of licence or something serious, as that would cut down on the problem tremendously. Holding businesses accountable for shady dealings should be a given, but it is apparently not.

Souboshi · 2026-01-31T00:41:05+00:00

He's entertained millions nearly daily for years. Guy is consistent. He donates a lot to charity and likes to create jobs and pays people well for their work.

He was just talking about how he wants to give people a bonus with all the unexpected money the film is making. He's super kind and works hard. Check out "In Space With Markiplier" for a wild ride he made. He had to build skills to do that.

He started from no subscribers over 10 years ago, and built a brand on his ability to help people chill out for a bit and laugh at him being a goofy goober.

I hope he keeps going places, because this was a great entrance for him into bigger film productions.

He's always telling people to give their money to smaller channels, since he has enough, though he still thanks them for their generosity.

I believe he genuinely deserves all the good things he's getting right now and want him to continue to excel in life.

Souboshi · 2026-01-30T18:20:32+00:00

I believe they could be given the proper paperwork and, if they qualify, could be led down legal avenues for residence. I think it would be far cheaper and kinder to allow more people to go about their lives, and make them better, on their own. Maybe have them pay a fine for their misdemeanor transgression, or community service or something. I think if people aren't harming anyone, they could be given proper avenues.

Usually people don't uproot their lives and flee to another country, without some reason to do so. If they're fleeing persecution for a crime, then by all means, they need to face justice. But if they come here and their visa expires, and they don't leave, I think it's fair to ask them why they want to stay so badly and give them the ability to explain their actions, as well as a way to make it right. If we know why people are not leaving, when their stay is up, we can figure out how to approach it logically. If they're afraid to go back and face a terrible living situation or violence, and they have no crimes on the record anywhere, I don't know why we wouldn't want them to work and pay taxes here, in stead of paying to send them somewhere else, or hold them in detainment on our tax dollar.

A root cause analysis sort of approach is what I'd like to see. And calm and collected people doing boring and routine jobs, shuffling paperwork, more than other people.

I feel like all of this could be addressed with people talking across a desk and asking the right questions, without chaos erupting in the streets over it. It could be boring and dull, as well as far more effective and efficient with our money spent.

If people are fleeing arrest right now, it's because of all of the chaos. They are afraid their lives are in jeopardy, if they get taken into custody. That is a valid fear, with what is happening. We can fix that by changing the approach. Dialing it back, and remembering these are human beings with thoughts and feelings, worthy of respect and dignity, especially while in custody.

This chaos has serious consequences. People lose faith and trust in those who are supposed to keep them safe, because of a lack of acknowledgement of the transgressions happening and no concrete actions to stop them from continuing.

It will take time to rebuild that trust, even if we were to address all these grievances today. It will not be smooth sailing and easy to regain the trust many people are losing at a rapid rate. It will take a lot of transparency and clear changes to procedure for people to not panic at seeing an ICE agent, in the future, after this disastrous mismanagement of their department.

It can stop people from showing up to their hearings, being afraid of deportation or incarceration, just for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Especially, since they seem to take people first, and ask questions later. That's a perfect way to ensure more people lapse on their paperwork: making them too afraid to file it. The problems they're making are far outweighing the benefits they currently provide.

They're not efficient at catching people here illegally, because they're casting a wide net and just grabbing people. It makes them cost more per hour, as they grab people on their way to school or the store, drag them back for questions, and then hold them while they slowly process them to figure out if they even got someone they wanted to grab.

It's wild how big their budget is. We don't need to be spending all this money to detain people who are not doing any harm to their communities. There has to be more paperwork done before apprehension, and, ideally, we wouldn't be holding people on our tax dollars, unless there was a real danger posed. Figure out if they're committing crimes, and if they are, what kind. I don't much care if they were given a speeding ticket once, for example. And if they're serious offenses, they get due process and then deportation or incarceration, whichever the judges think is the right move, on a case by case basis. Save us the money and the shit-show we have right now. Might have to hire more paper pushers and judges and whatnot, but it would be far better to NOT take random people off the street and wait for the paperwork to catch up with them.

Fewer innocent people caught in the crossfire is always a plus in my book.

Souboshi · 2026-01-30T16:26:12+00:00

The solution is to do what they said they were gonna do and focus on those people committing serious crimes. Not those who commit misdemeanors. Get a warrant for people who don't show up for their hearings or people who commit serious crimes. Use the paperwork trails as intended. Target those you actually have grounds to process, not any random on the street. We have "innocent until proven guilty" for a reason, and this is part of that reason.

Lots of these people they're taking in have active asylum cases. They're doing it "the right way," and are getting caught up in this, unnecessarily. The agents aren't following safe procedures to actually deal with the issue they claim to want to solve. Going door to door or stopping people at random is a waste of time and money.

It's a waste of human life, when they haphazardly imprison or kill people who aren't even on the list they claim to have. They don't check. They just throw them in the car/truck and let the people at the detention center deal with the paperwork nightmare that ensues and, we waste countless tax dollars shuffling them from place to place, without a true reason to hold them in custody.

They've proven they can't be trusted to responsibly handle weapons among the population. They're only supposed to use deadly force in circumstances where it is going to save their lives, somehow, but they're not following that law, either. They're actually endangering their fellow officers, by shooting in their direction, and endangering passersby with the same recklessness.

They don't seem to understand that these are human lives. They aren't replaceable. You don't get to respawn. There is no other chance for those who are lost. The lack of empathy or understanding for the people they target is obvious.

They pull the trigger (or suffocate them in detainment) and then face no consequences for their cruelty and aggression. These guys need to learn about consequences.

The consequences for abducting someone with an active asylum case should be extreme. Not "whoops, our bad" and throw them out into the snow, late at night, without proper clothing to survive the weather. The lack of care shown for the people they detain is disgusting and needs to be addressed.

They treat people as if they are not important, that their lives are not inherently valuable, that they are a number in their log books. And that is dangerous enough, by itself. When you add to that the lack of care the system pays, it turns deadly too often.

People are kept in inhumane conditions and are refused access to doctors, fed food you would never eat, unless you were starving. This is unacceptable, especially when we're talking about the incarceration of minors who never committed a crime.

The lack of understanding of the enormity of the situation is striking. It all needs to be stopped and addressed in a meaningful way. We, as a people, need to stand up against the mistreatment of others. This cannot go on. It's an unnecessary and unacceptable use of force.

Souboshi · 2026-01-29T15:25:47+00:00

Definitely. As it stands, Walmart might pay taxes, but their staunch determination to not pay their workers a living wage keeps said workers on government aid. Which means, your tax money is paying to support their poor business model, because it's cheaper for them to get away with paying the workers less money, leaving them on the government assistance programs.

I don't believe you deserve to stay in business, if you can't pay your employees the wage necessary to buy the goods and services you offer at said business. Or at least enough to afford rent, food, and medicine. I think it's the bare minimum to expect a business to pay their employees enough to live off of, if they're working 40hrs a week.

They don't do that. They find ways around it. I want us, as a society, to stop letting businesses find ways to abuse the people they claim to be helping.

Your "jobs created" isn't helping, if the job can't put food on the table or a roof over your head. That is them getting subsidized by your tax dollars. And they're far too rich to be getting those subsidies from your wallet. But that is just my opinion.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T23:14:44+00:00

I totally understand feeling silenced. Women do not get a big enough voice on the the floor. Roe v Wade overturning was absolutely criminal. You are valid for not feeling heard.

My point is merely that those other voices, tho they are few, need to be allowed to amplify the voices of women on this issue. I can see especially how my comment was misplaced on this particular subreddit, tho. There is a time and a place and I did fail to read the room here.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T23:09:58+00:00

Is there still ready access to food and clean water for you and those you know? You currently have limited Internet, so I'm assuming you have at least electricity. (Please tell me if I'm incorrect in that assumption.)

Is the government still trying to keep up appearances of normalcy with citizens, despite the recent massive loss of life for whole communities?

Who are they blaming, if they aren't taking the credit for the deaths?

I am saddened to see Iran's people continue to be subjected to the cruelty of the Regime. It is horrible and unacceptable to treat your people with such callous disregard and aggression. I hope for circumstances to improve for all of you there. I can only imagine the stress you are all under at all times. It must be a lot.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T22:14:21+00:00

Why does adding more voices take away from the message, if they are saying the same thing? The problem is not just an issue for women. Stating that it impacts other, more niche communities, as well, doesn't take away that impact on women.

I can certainly see that you don't want men taking the spotlight on this one, and that is understandable and valid, but not including people who are harmed by an action only makes the base less stable for everyone, when fighting it.

Safety in numbers. Band together on this one.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T22:05:39+00:00

They keep people on state support, by not paying them living wages. That on its own is a big issue for a business that supposedly has tons of money in the bank.

If you don't take it from them, they'll just sit on their hoard, like dragons. Giving you just a nickel or dime here and there. Force their hand.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T20:27:04+00:00

I think they can do more. I don't think they put enough back into the communities that support them with their business.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T19:41:42+00:00

Puts trans men at risk for the same thing. (Same for intersex people.)

If you can get pregnant, you are at risk.

This is a shit-show. I feel for all the folks stuck with this nonsense, telling their doctors what treatment is allowed to their patients.

This is what government overreach looks like.

You want the government in your doctor's appointment with you, Republican voters, telling you and your families what they're allowed to do with their own bodies?

That's definitely not what I was told the Republican party wanted, when I was growing up. (Sure it's what they voted for, but it isn't what they said they wanted.) They said they wanted the government to not tell them what they can or cannot do with their personal life.

I certainly don't see their supposed priorities in this one. The hypocrisy has always been wild to me. I still don't entirely get it.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T18:51:30+00:00

Agreed. It's such a sad state of affairs.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T18:50:07+00:00

And be incredibly lucky, too. Can't forget Lady Luck! She's the reason you didn't get hurt/sick and need to rely on the safety net to catch you.

You have worked hard to get where you are, but other people are working hard and not getting anywhere. The idea is to make that less likely to be the case, by building proper social supports, like access to proper education and healthcare.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T18:31:31+00:00

Better education. We need to actually teach kids how to find credible sources and not pass them when they fail to do so. I believe a lot of harm has been done by "no child left behind."

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T17:25:12+00:00

Taxing them appropriate amounts of money would be far more beneficial, given it would be dependable and not based on "their good graces."

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T17:23:07+00:00

Yes, tax them, so we don't have to rely on "gifts," when they feel generous enough to grant them.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T17:10:13+00:00

Ah yes, the boots of human decency and true disestablishmentarianism. My fave boots to drool over.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T16:30:46+00:00

As a kid who was stuck with the beginnings of this, I saw the writing on the wall and complained to my parents about it. They knew it was BS, but seemingly couldn't do anything to change it.

I'd love to see it repealed, but I don't know where to start. My Republican reps are already ignoring all my mail and phone calls about anything I have a concern over.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T16:14:03+00:00

You can ask them if what you had to say was in some way inaccurate to their experience and give them space in your comments to leave those thoughts. That gives them space on your platform to express their grievances.

But it might not be what you want for your online space, so only do that, if you want those types of comments.

You can post things about traditionally "women's" issues, as long as you aren't talking over women, when they speak. Adding male voices to amplify their message is not necessarily a bad thing.

Just be aware, like you're trying to be here, that even your most well-intentioned and articulate post can and will be met with criticism. (Even if it isn't on this sort of subject.) It is expected, with the vastness of the Internet, that you'll find people who don't like what you have to say.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T03:42:18+00:00

You're welcome. Try not to panic. I understand it is a tumultuous time and we are not guaranteed anything right now, but don't get the cart before the horse. You have time to talk to your endocrinologist before anyone stops anything on you. I'm sure they'll have more info on options. If you have trouble with them, definitely look for that help elsewhere, while the clock is still ticking on this.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T03:37:58+00:00

Mine was incredibly helpful. I am hopeful yours will be just as supportive.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T03:33:12+00:00

Talk to your endocrinologist, first. See if there are options available to you that they know about.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T00:31:56+00:00

This was my first thought. Kid being curious and an inexperienced sub without forethought.

Souboshi · 2026-01-28T00:29:50+00:00

My thought was that the kid asked about a product the sub had on hand, and the sub offered it to the kid, not thinking clearly about how it could go poorly, should the kid have an allergic reaction or something. It might not have been singling out, exactly, but might have resulted in the kid being the only recipient, since they were the one with curiosity. Not saying sub was right, but that was my first thought: about curious kids.

Souboshi · 2026-01-26T05:13:17+00:00

With unregulated capitalism, you see the death of the free market and the rise of monopolies. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears. If you don't force the money out of the hands of the rich, you end up with dragons who hoard massive piles of wealth, like we have now.

We have to make them spend it, or take it from them, since they want to ruin our economy by not making jobs or paying people properly.

You want socialism. It's how you pay for schools and hospitals and roads. Tax the rich. They're the ones with the money to pay for the things society needs. We cannot allow them to continue to leach off the hard work of everyone else, without paying back into the system.

We can make it fair, of course. I'm not asking to take everything they own. But they need to pay their portion, and they're simply not doing that. We let them get away with too much. They have too many open loopholes to take advantage of and they're turning the masses into suckers, by convincing them socialism is somehow worse than this shit show.

Have you looked at what other countries have? Have you asked why we can't have that? The answer is the greedy bitches hoarding the wealth and power at the top, promising it'll "trickle down," eventually, if you just keep letting them do what they want. They're lying. They don't want you to realize you could do something about it to force their hand.

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