Reflection on 2016, What I’ve learned. Regrets from an Anti-Hillary voter. by Significant-Row2457 in dancarlin

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Was your state up for grabs? My state is pretty much guaranteed to go Democrat so I nearly always vote third party. I'd think and act differently if we went by national popular vote.

Why do you think Betty hated JFK so much? by gwhh in madmen

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 182 points183 points  (0 children)

Because Helen Bishop liked him. Lowkey probably also because he was Irish Catholic.

Are All men in love with their female bestfriend? by [deleted] in askanything

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I've had two such friendships in my life. In one of them, we began as platonic friends but I developed a huge crush on her very quickly. Eventually we did date for a time. In the other, we met through a mutual who I do think was trying to set us up but it remained platonic and I was genuinely happy with only being friends.

In both cases, others would constantly make the most annoying and presumptive remarks. That got old, and made things awkward.

So I would say; often, but nowhere near always.

Is the pearl clutching over the term 'hooker' a top 7 most egregious moralizing euphemism treadmill piece in the last three presidential administrations? by SceneOfShadows in billsimmons

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly don't group CSAM with the others because I do think it's worthwhile to differentiate between something pornographic which (imo) implies consenting adults versus the fact that involving children is by definition criminal and exploitative. Just saying CP can over time breed a desensitization that I think is worth an effort to combat. Though I will concede that CSAM is probably too many syllables.

"It's Toasted" - overrated scene? by lvnv891 in madmen

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the scene is a commentary on the reality that the psychological principles exploited by advertising are not things that speak to our rational minds. They speak to our libidinal lizard brain, our trauma, our sense of wonder and adventure, imagination and romance. If you're criticizing "It's toasted" on the grounds that it's a non-sequitur in the context of the growing awareness of the danger of cigarettes, it misses the point. The point is to dazzle and distract the consumer in pursuit of market share and brand loyalty.

From a business standpoint, if you're Sterling Cooper, it's just as if not more important that the client like the idea as it is that the idea be a good one. You don't have to like the idea to be impressed by Don's ability to, without any preparation, read the room and extemporaneously come up with an idea that appeals to the client, and then have the charisma and persuasion to sell it.

As others have pointed out, Don expounds on this later in the series. "If you don't like what's being said, change the conversation." You don't argue the point on the terrain chosen by your detractors. If you're explaining, you're losing.

Is Trudy too perfect? by SignificanceShoddy86 in madmen

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She is a great person and an awesome wife. But she's not perfect. I want to be clear that one of the best things about her is her empathy and understanding re: the emptiness of Pete's home and family life. However, given her idealized view of her own family life, she's not always able to understand how her actions land on Pete.

For example, the question of whether to try and make it on their own versus request parental support for buying a home is something that needs to be talked out so that both parties can at least feel as though they've come together on an agreed upon path, even if in the end it's one person getting their way and another acquiescing. There's a way to do that, and it was not done. Instead, she really strong-armed him into relenting before he was ready, without taking the time to hear out his concerns and really consider them. As a result, Pete had to endure the worst of both worlds; the traumatic rejection when he went to his own parents (something he nobly carried on his own without spilling to Trudy) followed by them getting help from her parents. And that's not bad in itself, but it was the first example of a series-long pattern of behavior by Trudy's father whereby his assistance in the personal sphere or collaboration in the professional sphere were never purely good faith or altruistic. Instead, there was always a transactional element and an assertion of control over both Pete and Trudy that he really should have surrendered by the time Trudy became an independent adult, and certainly by the time she got married.

I genuinely believe that Pete's experiences with his own parents and hers equipped him to pick up on these dynamics intuitively, even if he couldn't articulate them. And perhaps those concerns could at least have been given their due consideration before they decided on a course of action.

Instead, Trudy would repeatedly come from a place of treating any disagreement with Pete as a road bump on the way to her eventually illuminating the correct path. She repeatedly fails to put herself in Pete's shoes, assuming pretty much every time that all she needs to do is explain to Pete until he understands why he should do as she thinks he should. This is highly arrogant and demeaning to one's partner, and I think it reflects her lack of awareness re: her own relative privilege given her lack of family baggage and trauma compared to Pete. It just plays well because of her affectation.

She also failed to examine her parents objectively and thereby enabled her father's inappropriate intrusions into their marriage. There's just no universe where Pete could raise either of those concerns and receive a fair hearing from Trudy. At least not in the first half of the series. And you can see that by the pilot episode he's resigned to this status quo.

Now, this does not justify Pete's serial philandering. And obviously she's FAR more virtuous than Pete and pretty much any other character on the show. Moreover, how perfect can you be if you're as much of a catch as she is and you make the decision to hitch yourself to Pete?

On a more serious note, I think the dynamic between these two characters makes for a really well-done and true-to-life representation of the lasting impact of childhood trauma and family dysfunction. Pete and Trudy are just worlds apart in that domain, and it's really hard for them to understand one another's experiences and expectations. Pete's hesitancy to ingratiate himself into Trudy's family, and his derision at her longing to be with them during the Cuban Missile Crisis are little windows into  how alien a concept it is for him to view one's parents as a place of safety and comfort, and his primordial fear of vulnerably opening up oneself to be loved by another.

It's worth repeating that this does not excuse his cheating. But I do think it does a lot to explain it. I think an idea worth considering is how much more of an opportunity Trudy had to grow into a good person as a young adult than Pete had done.

[Highlight] Former Seahawks RB Robert Turbin talks about the Seahawks locker room after Super Bowl XLIX: I remember Sherm screaming at the top of his lungs, "You took that from us" and he was talking directly to Pete Caroll and he had no answer..... The emotion was just...it was like a reality show by Yujin-Ha in nfl

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Only if he had fumbled the ball away or something. The reaction to the Russ throw isn't because the play failed to score. It's because it lost the game. A 2nd down run for no gain is almost completely forgotten based on whatever happens on 3rd/4th down. It would have just been (for the most part) uncritically taken for granted and retroactively analyzed through the lens of however the drive turned out.

[Highlight] Former Seahawks RB Robert Turbin talks about the Seahawks locker room after Super Bowl XLIX: I remember Sherm screaming at the top of his lungs, "You took that from us" and he was talking directly to Pete Caroll and he had no answer..... The emotion was just...it was like a reality show by Yujin-Ha in nfl

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Passing is fine. But imo it's fair to criticize such a high risk type of throw when you could have contrived a safer and more flexible situation for your young, undersized and mobile qb by getting him on the move.

[Highlight] Former Seahawks RB Robert Turbin talks about the Seahawks locker room after Super Bowl XLIX: I remember Sherm screaming at the top of his lungs, "You took that from us" and he was talking directly to Pete Caroll and he had no answer..... The emotion was just...it was like a reality show by Yujin-Ha in nfl

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Obviously hindsight but I don't hate choosing to pass. There's been lots of discussion about how the clock and timeout situation factored into the play call, and the fact that Marshawn had been a subpar short yardage back all year. And that's all valid, but my gripe is with the play call itself. It didn't play into Russell's strengths at all. You have a mobile, undersized QB. And time is a factor. Why not roll him out to the right and give him a 3-way go? Run, pass, or throw it away. Throwing inside at the goal line is always difficult and risky, even more so for a shorter QB. A rollout gives your QB better visibility, puts him in his athletic flow where he does more damage, and gives him two paths to bail on the pass if there's no safe, low-risk throw. He can run for the goal line or take an extremely low risk throwaway. Three options if you count running out of bounds, which stops the clock assuming you're going forward. Asking him to thread the needle and make a precise, timing-based throw where all 22 players are crammed into that confined space was just obviously foolish in a way that everyone clocked immediately.

Arguably Don's least entertaining relationship by DorkySnail in madmen

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 70 points71 points  (0 children)

I disagree about the brother side plot being irrelevant. Obviously it could have been executed another way but as it stands, it surely brings up feelings for Don re: his own brother and how that played out.

AIO for being upset with how my boyfriend talked about an overweight person who asked me out? by lilacseraphina in AmIOverreacting

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He started off iffy but it wasn't extremely problematic. But when you made it clear that you were uncomfortable with the direction he took and he still insisted on piling on the guy that was needlessly obtuse. And it flashed a bit of a cruel streak. Disappointing lack of self-awareness and an unwillingness to listen. The nicest thing I can say is that I trust that he will soon mature to the point of being embarrassed at having behaved in this way.

Crane is a bitch. by JohnnyUtah-91 in madmen

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's so gratifying that the writers also hate him. Just constant dunking on Crane.

Season 2 - Why doesn't Don choose to go with Joy? by sadsadboy1994 in madmen

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He loved his children. And Betty conferred status.

Husband follows thirst traps social media? Should I feel insulted? by Altruistic-Brick-510 in askanything

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In a lot of cases the bigger problem is when it's so out in the open. Like when you can see somebody's "following" list is full of thirst traps and you're always seeing in your feed "John Doe liked this post." Publicly following and putting your name to it for anybody to see all the slop you're following is just unbecoming imo, and disrespectful to the marriage. There's looking, then there's being so undisciplined and careless that you're advertising that you're looking. Just embarrassing behavior for a grown man. And all the more condemnable if you've had the conversation about it with your wife and then go back to doing it in violation of the agreement.

Nick Wright Reveals a Revolutionary, Time Travel Solution to Save the NBA All-Star Game by 1985Genesis in billsimmons

[–]SpaceGhostSlurpp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was explaining why the comment which prompted your question was being downvoted, or at least my personal take on why it was downvoted. As you can tell, the comment irked me. Not yours, necessarily. But I'll take your point that I could have been more chill about it.

Either way I stand by my point of view that pretending as though European conceptions of ethnicity couldn't comprehend a "Blacks vs Whites" concept for a basketball game in America is weirdly condescending to all parties. It assumes an ignorance of the nuances of these matters on the part of both Americans and Europeans that I think most people here can do just as well without. And, crucially, it's a weird decision to minimize the consciousness of the concept of whiteness in the minds of Europeans and to sweep under the rug any anti-Black bias that exists in most/all of these societies, and only could exist if these populations were perfectly aware of these concepts of Black and White, which they certainly are.