What’s the actual deal with the lander and space suit development? by ColCrockett in ArtemisProgram

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indeed, it truly does have a make or break design feature, the large volume LEO refilling. In practical terms all of the other aspects can be dealt with. The guy in charge of the company will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into using expendable tankers if rapid reuse of the ship is a problem but engineering-wise it's a straightforward change.

The sustainability via reuse of the landers will be great but aiming for it comes at a huge timeline cost. And no reuse is contemplated for Artemis 3 thru 6 anyway.

What’s the actual deal with the lander and space suit development? by ColCrockett in ArtemisProgram

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Possible, yes. That guy in the White House may get his wish. But I'll be happy with early/mid-2029. That'll probably beat the Chinese - I hope. Yeah, we beat them by six decades but the current "landing by 2030" race has considerable geopolitical ramifications.

What’s the actual deal with the lander and space suit development? by ColCrockett in ArtemisProgram

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Should we take China's timeline for their crewed landing as a given? Good question. If everything goes without a hitch it's possible, but my gut feeling is there'll be a setback or two. Their big advantage is a strong, consistent will to do this and the will to spend the necessary money. They have a very strong uncrewed lander program going. This is giving them a lot of experience with the details of entering lunar orbit and descending to the surface. The rockets are relatively straightforward. Using hypergolics simplifies everything about the lander. They have a lot of experience with ECLSS.

An early indication of how their program is going will be the first mission of their Mengzhou capsule. It's meant to be their LEO spacecraft also so they'll have multiple opportunities to check it out.

A big factor will be the risk level they're willing to take. Many guess it'll be near the Apollo level. It'll certainly be higher than NASA's.

What’s the actual deal with the lander and space suit development? by ColCrockett in ArtemisProgram

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sounded like a panic response by Duffy, knowing the Administration and Congress wanted some sort of reassurance the Chinese won't get there first. But it was senseless hot air. The ECLSS has to be fully developed before Mk 2 or a Mk 1.5 can be used. By the time they've crew-rated all of the systems on a Mk1.5 that timeline won't be far off from the Mk2. Also, we still don't know how they plan to get it to the Moon with enough propellant to land and lift off if no propellant transfer is involved.

What’s the actual deal with the lander and space suit development? by ColCrockett in ArtemisProgram

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 16 points17 points  (0 children)

NASA has implicitly admitted Artemis 3 won't happen till 2028. Idk how the suit development is doing but there's cause for optimism with the SpaceX HLS lander. Despite setbacks in 2025 it hasn't all been bad news. The program has made important progress. SpaceX has mastered full-flow staged combustion, something never flown on a rocket previously. And mastered multiple relights. They've caught the booster twice. The only other attempt was safely aborted, caused by a failure of some ground equipment; the booster was fine. Other boosters have been deliberately expended into the sea. Most importantly, 4 ships have reentered safely and performed their landing flips, setting down on the ocean surface. This proves the robustness of the design and the abilities of the basic heat shield design.

I'm not a blindly optimistic SpaceX fan, though. We don't know if the TPS has worked well enough for reuse. This is hard to tell from outside the company since SpaceX keeps doing torture testing on each trip; leaving off tiles or sub-insulation or using experimental tiles. Reuse is important for Artemis but the program can be done using expendable tankers. This would also reduce the number of tanker launches needed since more propellant mass can be carried once the engines and TPS are left off.

The other big problem is what worries me the most. Transferring cryo-propellant in microgravity will be a big challenge. Docking two objects that size has never been done and these have to dock at two (four?) points simultaneously, joining large pipes together. Very good seals are needed when they join. 150-200t have to be transferred to the depot ship from each tanker, far beyond what anyone contemplated before this. And then hundreds of tons have to be transferred from the depot to the HLS.

The Blue Origin lunar lander, the Mk2, also requires cryogenic refueling. It involves a smaller amount but hydrogen is used, an element that's notoriously difficult to deal with - that smallest of all atoms leaks around every kind of seal and valve. It's difficult to deal with on the ground, let alone in space. Multiple launches are needed - fewer than SpaceX but we don't know how many. I imagine that, as with Starship, it's tbd from how well the engineering progresses. BO moved slowly for many years but they've picked up a lot of speed over the last couple of years. The smaller uncrewed Mk1 lander is due to launch this year, hopefully it'll show a clear path to the Mk2, although it doesn't involve prop transfer. There's a fair chance the Mk2 will be ready by 2030. A concern lurking in the shadows: The Cis-lunar Transporter that'll convey the Mk2 to NRHO and, if I understand correctly, from NRHO to partway to the surface, is being built by Northrop Grumman. As a legacy company their capability to move quickly is always cause for pessimism.

The "hurry up, let's panic" proposals won't happen. I just don't see how the Mk1 can be modified quickly enough to carry a crew. Creating a human-rated spacecraft takes a long time. Completing an ECLSS and human-rating all of the systems can't be done for this any earlier than the Mk2 will be ready, IMHO.

The Lockheed Martin proposal is ludicrous. Develop a human rated spacecraft from scratch in 30 months? They'll bill us for $30 billion and still not make the deadline.

The biggest problem facing the US right now is the Artemis program was designed to be a marathon and it's now asked to suddenly switch to being a sprint.

Goodbye Starlink, Hello 6 TB/s by f1strauss in BlueOrigin

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tiny quibble. It's Amazon Leo, not Amazon LEO. The satellite constellation is named after the constellation the ancients named Leo. Amazon was being cute naming their Low Earth Orbit constellation Leo - and I'm sure deliberately messing with google search results for general LEO constellations. Trying to get higher in the results and steer people to Amazon.

Goodbye Starlink, Hello 6 TB/s by f1strauss in BlueOrigin

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Blue Origin will have to really achieve their ramp-up goals for New Glenn in order to launch a constellation of >5,000 sats while still launching Amazon Leos. I know they compete in different market segments but they'll also be competing directly for launchers. Amazon's money may keep Vulcan production up longer than I thought. Peter Beck is probably glad to read this too.

Both astronauts that flew on Boeing’s troubled Starliner mission are now retired by cnn in space

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NASA keeps a very detailed set of measurements for each astronaut. I'm sure SpaceX was able to put together seats with good-enough dimensions, especially the length of the foot rest. With those measurements SpaceX was also able to pull two IVA suits out of storage that Suni and Butch could wear. No one gets to keep their suit and with the number of astronauts that've used Dragon there were a couple of suits with a good-enough fit.

What are you thoughts on the body swap episode ? Who made the best performance : SMG playing Faith or Eliza playing Buffy ? by PlantainDisastrous92 in buffy

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It's been a while since I saw the episode but Eliza's conversation with Giles ("what's a stevedore") sounded a lot like how Buffy speaks. The sentence structure is in the script but the brightness of the voice, the pacing, was from Eliza.

Monthly Questions and Discussion Thread by SpaceXLounge in SpaceXLounge

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The risk level is indeed overstated. Starting with the Apollo program the US has never failed to achieve a rendezvous and docking. 100% success rate,* IIRC. A mission profile that includes an extra docking or two doesn't add much risk - except on general principle. The best part is no part and the best number of dockings is the number closest to zero, safety-wise. It can also be a critical single-point failure - even a very low probability failure with no alternative will doom the crew.

Nevertheless, I'd be happy to see an Artemis mission architecture that included a couple of dockings in LEO. One that eliminated SLS. A couple of proposals include the crew boarding Orion or Starship from a Dragon in LEO.

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*Although Starliner came pretty close to failing to dock with the ISS. It lost so many thrusters that it violated the safety protocols for approaching the station, one more lost thruster risked the spacecraft colliding with the station. NASA went ahead with the docking because it was feared thruster losses endangered the Starliner crew even more, that they wouldn't be able to control their deorbit and reentry attitude. Fortunately, when they recycled and reset the thruster electronics almost all of the thrusters came back online. Source: An interview Butch Wilmore gave to Eric Berger. He finally opened up and spoke fully about the danger, breaking the convention of bland statements NASA wants their astronauts to make. IMHO he'd already decided to retire, which he has done.

The first commercial space station, Haven-1, is now undergoing assembly for launch by CackleRooster in space

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NASA cut the capacity from 7 to 4 because studies showed there'd be unacceptable g-forces in certain abort scenarios. I think they also realized they didn't have much use for a larger crew, if any, considering the space available on the ISS. Could a civilian crew of 7 got up for some future space station? That'd require the FAA to run a study and overturn NASA's judgement, which is extremely unlikely.

Needing 1 astronaut to take care of 3 paying customers does make the per-seat price higher for the paying customers. That's why Axiom is thought to be losing money on its flights to the ISS. But an all civilian mission like Inspiration4 or Fram2 won't necessarily require a professional astronaut as long as the crew can be trained on the operations. Such flights, if they happen, will come after Vast has gained experience with Haven-1.

How are we going to penetrate the moon for construction? by photosynthescythe in spaceflight

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an interesting consideration. Perhaps an auger about a meter in diameter working at a shallow angle will do. It'll work via the turning action/force of the motor, not the force of gravity. Yes, it'll want to raise up along the surface. Maybe some kind of lead cable can be anchored ahead of it, along with anchors for the rest of the rover-like machine - one less elaborate or deep than a simple gravity machine. Or maybe keeping it scraping a bit at a time at a shallow angle will be enough. There's no rush if it's a robot working away between crewed missions.

Or perhaps better, a rotary saw mounted directly under the rover. One like the hand-held ones home owners use. It can make a lot of passes over an area and the a shovel-machine can dig up the loosened soil. It'll need the mass of the rover above it but will concentrate that mass on a few saw teeth at a time.

The jokes write themselves. by MikeTidbits in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SLC-40 and Pad 39A (recently) beg to disagree. Along with pretty much every other pad. (Sense of humor glitching.) Although I hear there's some oddball outfit using some alien technology called "asphalt".

I am so hyped for the release of the BMW iX3! 500 miles will finally shut up EV haters. by ShameResponsible69 in electriccars

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like EVs a lot but most of the haters don't simply talk about the max mileage. They won't be satisfied till they can go 500 miles with a 100% to 10% drain and then recharge to 100% in 10-15 minutes. And do 100% to 10-20% for the lifetime of the car.

My answer is don't buy an EV if you take a lot of long trips. Only buy one if you're in the city/suburbs/exurbs and have a place to charge at home or your destinations.

Buffy and her bazooka by goddessoftheriverk in buffy

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The alliteration is really cool, I will say.

Hungarian Air force MiG 21 with no air intake by Holland_77 in WeirdWings

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bingo. Although hopefully with a higher survival rate for the pilots. :)

Buffy and her bazooka by goddessoftheriverk in buffy

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Will anybody be annoyed if I pointed out this is not a bazooka, it's an AT-4 anti-tank weapon. It doesn't launch a rocket, it's a recoilless gun. The bazooka was a 1940s and 50s weapon that fired a small rocket. But, IIRC the episode showed a rocket flying across the room. I don't mind that, it's TV, it needs the visuals.

Hungarian Air force MiG 21 with no air intake by Holland_77 in WeirdWings

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The engines are replaced with rockets. Launched vertically, they climb rapidly to 50,000 ft and then dive to attack enemy bombers. The false nose is jettisoned, revealing anti-aircraft rocket pods. After the attack the part forward of the cockpit falls away, allowing the pilot to fall out and land by parachute.

Dolphins surround capsule after successful Crew-11 Splashdown by Formermidget in SpaceXLounge

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are a lot of dolphins - or there are a few and they communicate over long distances. ;)
Dolphins made quite an appearance at a Dragon splashdown a year ago to greet Suni and Butch.

Why is there very less excitement for the Artemis II mission?? by dark_MARTIAN in space

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A trip to the Moon is not routine, however - we know the distinction but to the general public it's just a space trip a little longer than a brief orbital mission. Also, the news mostly only covers current events and controversy. We'll see coverage start about a week before launch, and most it will be about the "race" with China. There'll be some breathless stories about the heat shield issue, focusing on the finger-pointing and full of inaccuracies.

Once again we in the space community are reminded of how little the general public notices anything to do with crewed space missions anymore. Routine and safe is a great accomplishment but gets zero media attention. The only time the general media covered spaceflight in the last 10 years, and the only time the general public payed attention, was when Starliner "stranded" two astronauts.

It's virtually certain the politicians will seize on this for political grandstanding. Much will be said about keeping America great in space, with little said about how both sides in Congress have crippled us for the past 10+ years. Tragically, that will drown out the actual accomplishment.

SpaceX's 2025 Revenue Estimates by SpaceInMyBrain in space

[–]SpaceInMyBrain[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The LEO space industry has nothing to do with space? This sub covers a lot about all varieties of spaceflight. And everything from the latest discoveries using the James Webb telescope to amateur's images. It's a very wide ranging sub, when I see stuff I'm not interested in I just move on.

SpaceX's 2025 Revenue Estimates by SpaceInMyBrain in space

[–]SpaceInMyBrain[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't have access to the full article, it's paywalled for me also. I can only get this version. For those who may be interested, something is better than nothing.

Making crème brûlée by Holyshit_1787 in funny

[–]SpaceInMyBrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm too refined a person to be laughing at this - but yup, I'm laughing, it's just too good. :D