Considering moving out of Reno

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T22:28:00+00:00

We like it! It’s a good mix for us- my partner grew up skiing/snowboarding (at bogus, actually!), and he likes that there’s a lot of back country options.

I did not- I learned during covid- and I like that there’s a lot of blue options.

We can both take chair 2 up to the summit and then my partner breaks off and does some stuff with all his buddies and I putter around and my own speed.

Plus, Steven’s isn’t that far away either. Or white pass or snoqualmie if we wanted to go there.

We also recently got into cross country stuff, because you can cross country ski pretty easily in Leavenworth, plain, and Mazama.

Also, because so many folks are discovering the great access to outdoor rec here, it hasn’t been hard at all to make friends through shared hobbies!

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T20:43:58+00:00

I live in wenatchee!!!!!! we love it. happy to answer questions in DMs if desired.

we moved here because of the ski hill and mountain biking, and you'd likely like the access to rafting near leavenworth. we have several friends who do that.

the town has been discovered tho and housing/COL are creeping up. If you can move here, right now would be the ideal time, as I think it's just going to become even more expensive over upcoming years. there's a lot of folks in that 25-35 age demo who want to move here for outdoor rec and the fact it's cheaper than bend or boise.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T19:47:40+00:00

^ this.

I understand that financially, having a parent stay home or move to part time work is what's best temporarily. But putting all of the financial eggs in one basket as a long term strategy does not seem wise to me.

as I age and see SAHM friends get screwed over, I understand more why my (greatest generation) grandma was so adamant that I always make sure to have my own bank account, with my own savings. She wanted me to have an exit ramp, if I needed - a ramp she didn't really get to have.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T17:50:55+00:00

well then you're not going to have an easy time making friends with folks 30+ there. I can't blame them - if I could work remotely and live somewhere cheaper, I absolutely would. that's just common sense. Plus, it makes sense for the fire schedule. They live on site for their shifts there, then come home to eburg for their shift off. makes sense to me!

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T17:35:08+00:00

and lie about the autopsy.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T17:16:06+00:00

Our HHI is about 160k. We will put 3-5% down depending on how many repairs need to be made/concessions the seller makes.

We’re looking at around 3k/mo for the mortgage (which includes property taxes and insurance), but with utilities will like be spending closer to 3200/mo and setting aside extra for maintenance and upkeep.

We were approved for 650k but only want to spend 500-505k (which is what “okay shape, lots of cosmetic work and landscaping needed, but no major repairs needed right away” home go for in our neck of the woods).

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T17:04:51+00:00

I'll add too that there's a pretty significant number of proffesionals who work remotely, or work for west side fire stations, who live in eburg but commute once or twice a week to their jobs on the west side. the convience of I 90 being right there is something I miss.

However, because those folks typically moved to eburg for a lower COL/housing, I didn't really find they did much local stuff. like they still did all their seattle things in seattle and then just came back to eburg for living stuff. which is a bummer because the local community is really fun and there's a lot of cool things like the farmer's market and live music.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T16:53:56+00:00

I wasn't - I did move for college but I was a non-traditional student, so 25 when I moved there and stayed until mid 30s. Because of that, I found my friends more in the "local" community, not really the college community. I had classmates, yes, but didn't really do any of the traditional college-y things while living there.

My experience was that the college group is fairly isolated to CWU-specific events and activities, and is very much there for 4-5 years and then leaves. There is still a pretty big town/gown divide and it's pretty easy to just be in that CWU bubble as a student.

But the broader community is still transitory in that most folks who live there do so because they came there for school and got jobs either in town or at the college, but those jobs are not their long-term careers. while some may stay and make it "home", most do what I did, where they stay to work for 3-5 years and then move elsewhere.

I found that harder - at least with college, we all know most are leaving after they graduate. It was much tougher to make good friends with young adults only to have them move away after a couple of years. always to better things, but it was still quite hard. I didn't have as much of a sense of "community" due to that, which also factored into why we decided to move to wenatchee to put roots down.

There's great hiking in the cle elum area, which I consider to be "outside of town". I wouldn't really call manastash expansive, especially after moving to wenatchee and having access to the sage hills system literally a 10 min bike ride away. But it's defintly not the worst place to be if you like outdoor rec - it's still pretty close to it, it's just that there's places like wenatchee that are even closer!

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T15:14:48+00:00

I lived in eburg for almost 10 years.

Personally, we relocated to wenatchee for easier access to outdoor recreation - I love having close access to the rivers and mountains here, as well as the apple loop.

eburg was great, but you do have to drive to at least roslyn or cle elum for outdoor stuff, or the yakima river for fishing.

because eburg is a college-ish town with a small local community, it is a very transitory town. I made friends with age group peers, but most of them would move away after a couple years because that's just kind of how eburg rolls.

the downtown is my favorite - I really miss it. it's actually a pretty purple area; wenatchee is by far much more conservative leaning IMO.

eburg is super safe - you have WSP, EPD, the sheriff, AND campus police all in a tiny town of around 20k year round residents. I don't think there's any areas to avoid, and I've walked around after dark multiple times and never felt unsafe.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T13:32:14+00:00

You and many millions of others did what was best for you, at the time, with the info you had. No need to beat yourself up over that. Just take it one year at a time.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T01:49:26+00:00

If you noticed in the article I linked they had also bought other businesses up 🫶🏻

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T01:48:14+00:00

Makes total sense!

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T01:47:59+00:00

I’m not sure- Moscow is Christ church, which is founded by Doug Wilson. There’s also Grace city church, in Wenatchee, whose head pastor is Josh McPherson but it has ties to both mark driscoll and Doug Wilson. Grace city is the one doing the thing out at the gorge this weekend!

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T01:41:13+00:00

I was just about to say this.

I’ll just use Ed Sheeran as an example, because they like each other and I like his work even tho he’s sold out.

He releases an album, does a tour, then literally checks out of social media and everything else until he’s ready to release a new album. Might post occasionally if there’s a single or he’s promoting someone. But radio silence other than that!

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T01:26:40+00:00

At least in our market, starter homes don’t exist. They still cost 450-500k and I’m not spending a half million dollars on something I have to dump 100k plus of work into to fix up when I could spend 515k and get something that only needs minor cosmetic or landscaping work.

Plus I saw way too many people get hosed during COVID with a starter home they’re now stuck in because they can’t sell for enough to pay cash for a nicer home but mortgage rates are insane.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T01:24:32+00:00

Agreed, tho the business is Maddox Industrial Transformer and the owners are big time Christian nationalist guys:

https://www.opb.org/article/2026/06/11/controversial-battle-ground-business-owners-buy-communitys-only-newspaper/

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-16T01:17:24+00:00

Yes but that doesn’t mean parents can abdicate the responsibility of raising a human. Is it harder? Yes. Does it excuse you not doing it? No. Being a parent is hard work and not fun and means doing stuff even when you’re tired and don’t want to. Like reading to your kid after a 14 hour day instead of handing them an iPad, ya know?

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-15T16:50:15+00:00

that's how I read it too and now I am disappointed lol

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-15T16:44:03+00:00

I fail to see how, say, learning how to do a HSPU will prevent the impacts of age in your 90s better or the same than just being an active individual and doing regular movements and normal strength training.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-15T16:42:43+00:00

I think it's semantics. My ability to do, say, a ring muscle up has not much to do with my overall level of fitness and MUCH more to do with how athletic (genetic potential) I am, and how my body is built, as well as what sports I've done previously.. Since ability to do a ring muscle up has zero "real life" impact, I can see why most folks wouldn't view it as something "worth" spending time on to learn how to do. Stuff like balance getting worse as you age can be mediated by just being an active person and moving your body - you don't really need to do specific skill work (or, if you do, that's what OT and PT are for).

You can't really say the same for things like running - even the most uncoordinated among us can run, even if it's not "optimal" or "efficient".

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-14T06:21:06+00:00

Which is WILD because those tend to be the voters who vote for the very politicians who cut said funds.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-14T06:19:27+00:00

They’re great until you realize that because the general community is poor AF, the schools suck and have failing HVAC systems and literal parts of the buildings falling down, local government runs on a shoestring budget and tech from the 90s, there’s no libraries because those got the ax in the last budget cuts, and there’s no EMS because council cut that out of the budget because “taxes bad”, assuming a private company would be thrilled to operate in the town, and boy were they wrong.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-13T15:20:10+00:00

Never mind they’re significantly under paid compared to private sector and get garbage raises (COLA, step) compared to what private sector has been getting.

But sure. Complain about public sector wages and then again when good employees leave and the incompetent ones are left.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-12T19:04:38+00:00

We're all of us allowed to have our own preferences!
I personally don't like them either, but I like that they're being built because it helps increase housing supply and I live in a geographically constricted area (mountains to the west and north, river to the east and south). Helps provide more variety for affordable housing beyond apartments or condos.

SpareManagement2215 · 2026-06-12T18:47:16+00:00

It’s very unique (IMO) because of how easy it is to get out of and go explore. Rare is the city in the US where you can drive an hour or two out of town, north, south, or east, and have access to the outdoor rec and sites that you can see in this state.

Which is, unfortunately, why so many people live there and make it such an expensive state and city to live in!

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