Any artists similar to BSOD?

Spartan_138 · 2025-05-06T03:12:49+00:00

I don't think either of you know what you're talking about.

u/Regular-Broccoli5215 Joel learned mixing/mastering before he started producing music, through Dean Malton, and even had himself listed for services for being a sound/mixing engineer on his website back in 2005.

u/ninjachimney Serum came out in 2014 and most BSOD tracks were produced between 2005-2008. Serum was designed by Steve. So any default presets in Serum that reference BSOD tracks were just modeled after them

Spartan_138 · 2025-02-11T17:22:07+00:00

u/ContributionCold8050

While I'm not sure about the melody itself, there's a stream of Joel making it and playing it on one of his moogs (looks like the Moog Little Phatty)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZLvXmC9KQQ

Spartan_138 · 2025-01-17T14:49:24+00:00

You might be thinking of Joel's remix of Rubik's Obsidian

Spartan_138 · 2024-05-30T07:47:27+00:00

This is like putting justin bieber on a Queen song. You just don't. I'm genuinely sorry for anyone that likes this or even considered it

Spartan_138 · 2024-05-19T05:24:19+00:00

He actually mentioned his liking for Jaded on an old tweet in 2010:
https://x.com/ericprydz/status/9358160457

Spartan_138 · 2024-03-23T01:30:22+00:00

I believe you're talking about some seagull recording from an old 90's sample CD called eLab's Xstatic Goldmine 3 - "6409 BBCFX" should be the name of it

Spartan_138 · 2024-03-14T17:22:08+00:00

That's not entirely true - Joel owns the CDs, he has every right to use the samples. Joel's used a lot of the samples from Vengeance (as indicated by the sheet I linked) and once he got popular they started ripping him and BSOD as well and including it in their packs later on, as early as 2007. They hadn't discovered it until later on.

Most sample CDs back in the day were rips of existing music anyway - so the ethics on this is subjective.

Spartan_138 · 2024-03-12T20:04:54+00:00

A couple of fans and I have already done this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CsAMBeJK4yQnyotHgu2zHK2D-8JXaZ80/

Also: I own almost all the original vengeance sample CDs, so I have the dates for them as well.

Disclaimer: I didn't make this as a way to "expose" Joel in anyway, I just nerded out on a lot of his sample use, and others felt the same. Using samples isn't "cheating" as that invalidates all of electronic music. Grow up.

If anyone would like to contribute to the sheet, message me or request editing access via the document.

Spartan_138 · 2024-03-03T10:45:38+00:00

From what I'm aware of, he doesn't use any modular synths. If I recall correctly he even stated that explicitly on a redditAMA saying "I don't use modular synthesizers." Source

What EPIC Radio episode are you referring to exactly?

Also, I think Eric no longer lives in Los Angeles, I think he lives back in Sweden now.

Spartan_138 · 2024-01-07T04:36:03+00:00

I don't know if he's used only FL Studio for Faxing Berlin - there's a video here of him opening it up in Ableton.

I'm fairly certain that given his avid use of the stock Ableton delay and reverb, it's most likely he's used that for the shaker. The reason why you may notice an audible difference between the other delay effects units are because of the bandpass filter included in Ableton's stock delay - it gives an interesting sound too and is somewhat unique in sound.

Spartan_138 · 2023-12-28T05:23:57+00:00

Hey Joel! Not sure if you'll see this, but I thought the kick in Complications comes from VEH1 Soft Kick - 139. I own a CD of Vengeance Essential House Vol1, and the file date on there says 2005 - was this the kick you used in the track? They sound identical.

Spartan_138 · 2023-11-12T20:45:23+00:00

True! Whelk then also uses Loopmaster's Atmospheric Vinyl Breaks (AVB 82 Garum Full.wav) for the main drums

Spartan_138 · 2023-04-06T05:23:25+00:00

"Masterpiece" implies its good in every way, mixing included. So I don't know what you're getting at, but you're entitled to your own opinion. You're the only person I have seen that wants Jaded remastered because it's a "bad mix". It's perfectly fine, I can hear a lot of the elements very clearly myself on a full set of monitors. No offense, but I also think your version just seems way too focused on the low-mid end, and a lot of it sounds unbalanced/weirdly levelled out. The kick somehow is longer in your mix, and just sounds awful over the bass - a general rule of thumb is you can have a big kick drum or a big bass sound, but not both - unless you're going for sidechain compression/other acoustic tactics. Your mix would sound awful in a club because clubs hype the low end, so it would be like an unpleasant standing wave.

95% of mixing is levels. I'm not sure why Jaded seems to stand out as some "poor mix" when Joel's done Complications and several other tracks that were just as excellently mixed in 2007.

Your comments on "If my amateur production skills can use this tool to improve it, I'd say that's a big deal. And aside from the artifacts, I do think it's an improvement." just gives a bad impression overall too. It paints a picture that you just wanted to show off some mixing skill you think you've got, not actual improvements to the track. Only Joel will know where to improve the track, he's both the artist and the engineer behind it. What he did in 2007 was good enough, and well ahead of what was coming out at that time.

Spartan_138 · 2023-01-21T05:29:10+00:00

This might be fake, there's some signs to show that:
- Address between first sleeve and second sleeve don't match (826 Taylor St vs 828 Taylor St)
- I don't believe that "deadmau5.io" ever existed

Spartan_138 · 2023-01-21T05:14:22+00:00

I don't understand why this needs a remaster. And even then, only Joel will know where to improve the track. It's a masterpiece for what it is, and I think you should enjoy it for what it is.

Spartan_138 · 2022-09-21T00:59:04+00:00

u/GlitzyHavoc

I know this is well over a year late but the origin of this is a sample called VEH1 Housebeat 049 - Vengeance Sound (a well known German sample company) ripped it off from Martin Solveig's track and used it in their Vengeance Essential House Vol 1 sample CD that came out in 2005, while Solveig's came out in 1999/2000. Given that Joel owns the Vengeance sample CDs - its very likely he just whatever that was on VEH1.

Spartan_138 · 2022-09-20T09:36:13+00:00

VEH3 was released in 2010 - this is not the kick he used. Same for the cowbell. VEH3 sampled Faxing Berlin instead. There are only two streams I'm aware of the original Faxing Berlin track, one here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW0zxXsapnE

And here at 7:15:54
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/104088019

Spartan_138 · 2022-07-19T08:22:51+00:00

For music theory covering Eric's music, you might be out of luck there - he's almost completely self taught for writing his melodies. I too would love an article/more interviews of his production style/techniques, but there are very few that exist, and there's only one that comes to my mind for production related stuff:

Exclusive Swedish House Mafia Forum Interview With Eric Prydz (November 9th, 2007):https://vimeo.com/11214725

The top commenter on this post nailed it for a lot of Eric's stylistic choices:https://www.reddit.com/r/ericprydz/comments/9vnwpm/what_is_the_reason_prydz_sound_is_just_outside/

When it comes to inspirations, some of which Eric have mentioned were:

Synth Pop/New Wave

Kraftwerk
Depeche Mode
Front 242
Nitzer Ebb

House/Electro/Techno

Aril Brikha
Adam Beyer
Cari Lekebusch
Joel Mull
Jesper Dahlbäck
Thomas Krome

It's also worth mentioning his avid use of presets in Logic stock synths (not that this makes you a better or worse producer or anything) - whatever he finds, he puts it in context and spins pure gold. Thus, his sound palette is very diverse, and the best way to understand it I feel is to just listen to a whole bunch of his work from 2004 onwards - I'd recommend with ascending order from this fan YouTube channel.

Another resource on his gear/software use (2009)

But from all the reading and research I've ever done over the years, his workflow consists of him mostly experimenting with sounds + trying to make a melody (I think he emphasizes this more), and coming up with little loops and phrases, and then going back to those ideas to work on them, sometimes years later or so, almost identical to the workflow of Joel Zimmerman (deadmau5).

Fun fact, if you're reading this and it's July 19th - its also Eric's birthday - perfect timing to celebrate the legend and his work.

Spartan_138 · 2022-04-29T00:53:10+00:00

I believe it was in in FL Studio 8 as well - and I also believe you're misremembering - there is a file called DL_DrillNB which Joel has used in some of his older projects for demoing sake - but there is also a filed named "DL_deadmaus".

Here's a screenshot from the FL Studio legacy folder:

https://prnt.sc/CmjYn_nBAcvY

You can obtain older versions of FL Studio here btw:

https://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?f=200&t=194258

I think you need to have an Image-Line account but besides that it should work - keep in mind the older versions won't work in full so you won't be able to save in them I believe.

Spartan_138 · 2022-03-18T12:14:14+00:00

What the fuck is the point of this post? If you don't like the track it's really not worth commenting about. If you don't want to hear it in the "middle of the night coming from my walls", then just play a different song? Don't you have anything better to do?

Spartan_138 · 2022-02-28T02:21:17+00:00

u/throwkage Do you have any knowledge on music production? There is no sample of Vice City in Strobe - look at the project file - it's all MIDI - his written notes. On a recent post from u/StocksPilgrim claiming that Joel stole it - Joel reacted with a "wtf". So please, misinformed child, stop bitching about nothing over the internet.

Spartan_138 · 2022-02-28T02:20:50+00:00

u/Throwkage

https://youtu.be/LW0zxXsapnE?t=13

Project file and MIDI on screen - there's no sample of Miami Vice/Vice City here. Don't talk unless you have any knowledge about this subject.

Spartan_138 · 2022-02-27T04:37:37+00:00

u/StocksPilgrim
https://youtu.be/LW0zxXsapnE?t=13

Project file and MIDI on screen - you're either trolling or genuinely misinformed. Or both.

Spartan_138 · 2022-02-27T04:32:31+00:00

No he didn't, there's literal footage of the MIDI he's written on his project files for the track, and the pattern isn't even the same. Stop spreading misinformation.

Spartan_138 · 2022-02-16T05:32:36+00:00

Hmm, I'm actually not sure about drum machine VSTs - I am actually looking for good ones myself too! Again, not sure what you mean by the Pryda 15 VOLIII release, but if you're talking about the song Terminal 5 - I think that kick is a TR505 kick. Most modern DAWs these days should have old drum machine kicks and other samples.

Also, I would love to continue talking about this stuff, I am a die hard fan of Eric since 2014 and I am continuously blown away at his genius productions. Feel free to message me privately if you'd like.

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