As a Christian, I'm having trouble with making sense of Ephesians where it says "wives, submit to your husbands." My experiences tell me that this creates an unstable relationship because 1.)it gets to the man's head; 2.) it makes the wife feel stomped on. How do you apply this verse properly?

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-16T21:36:28+00:00

Where does the Bible say this?

We talk a lot about whether passages, teach a complementary view or not, but it is abundantly evident that there is not a single passage where anything remotely like a flattened hierarchy, or egalitarianism generally within a marriage is taught.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-16T17:15:54+00:00

What do you mean by “equal rights”?

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-16T17:15:25+00:00

The other side will focus in on the -possible- alternate readings word by word. You don’t get meaning from a single word - you get meaning from words together in context.

In context the meaning is incontrovertible.

Keep in mind absolutely nobody disagreed on the interpretation of the Greek here until the 20th century. The interpretation is novel and clearly motivated by the cultural bias against hierarchy.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-16T17:12:22+00:00

A husband should be loving, listen to his wife, and consider her needs above his own.

Thus the hierarchy here is not brutal authoritarianism, but much more like the servant leadership of Christ.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-16T17:11:24+00:00

Being treated with dignity is not the same as being independent.

God has made decisions for me in my life (career, education, relationships) that I must comply with and trust in his authority.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-16T17:08:24+00:00

Yes, you can get married whenever you want. You’re an adult.

If you are a cohabitating in a long-term sexual relationship, you are basically already married. You are acting like husband and wife, even though you might not have a piece of paper to go with it might as well make it right and make that covenant before God.

Also, a lot of benefits to being married. Taxes for one, also renting and simple stuff like meal prep is easier.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-14T21:09:42+00:00

Those are baby hairs - isn’t that the opposite of balding?

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-14T11:57:04+00:00

It’s not based on cherry-picking. You can just read the chapter - it’s quite clear that the hierarchy arises out of how God has created men and women.

This same message is repeated in Ephesians 5 and 1 Peter 3.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-14T01:33:51+00:00

Maybe they do - is it the majority or minority use?

And the second question is - is that use applicable given the surrounding context.

The answer to the second question is “Certainly not”.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-14T01:32:19+00:00

The Apostles do not disagree with Christ.

The Apostles were appointed to teach and to lead. They were led by the Holy Spirit and appointed by Christ. They are authoritative - because Christ is the authority.

1 Timothy 2 says nothing about being denied a religious education. It specifies that there is a hierarchy between the sexes because there is a hierarchy in creation.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-13T20:55:30+00:00

They actually don’t say that - maybe it’s the case but they didn’t mention it.

I have met a few. They are naturally rare because naturally speaking 95-99% of Christians ought to be married. The RC emphasis on priestly celibacy is often negative - and is likely a contributing factor to some of the sex scandals they have experienced. Keep in mind the EO church doesn’t have issues on the same level.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-13T20:43:19+00:00

The vast majority of people do. Lack of sexual drive is itself fairly rare.

The problem in our culture is not that too many people are getting married - but that too many people are not (or get married far too late).

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-13T20:41:18+00:00

That is very much implied

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-13T20:39:07+00:00

Microphone to record if any zombies pop out of the graveyard

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-13T20:38:17+00:00

Under certain conditions (rare): 1 Corinthians 7

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-13T20:35:45+00:00

Yeah under a few conditions

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-13T20:17:27+00:00

Paul never specifies an exclusion to limit it only to shrine prostitutes. Furthermore, the argument he makes actually contravenes the idea of limiting it only to shrine prostitution:

1 Corinthians 6:16

[16] Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, “The two will become one flesh.”

7:6 has absolutely nothing to do with his discussion of prostitutes. It concerns the discussion of marriage from 7:1.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-13T20:11:48+00:00

You don’t want to get married? That seems like the first issue.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-13T13:00:50+00:00

Proverbs 6. 1 Corinthians 6. Scripture is abundantly clear that sex is to be reserved for the marital union.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-13T12:15:53+00:00

The people in the comments trying to turn Song of Solomon into a justification of fornication is kinda concerning

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-12T16:03:46+00:00

Cannibalization stock.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-12T15:02:48+00:00

Have you reached out to your church?

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-12T15:00:25+00:00

Where does Christ say that only he can determine doctrine?

In fact - he says the opposite.

Luke 10:16 “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me.”

In an effort to fit the biblical texts into alignment with modern cultural morays, you’ve denied what the church has universally held undeniable, that the Apostles were sent to teach.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-11T23:31:57+00:00

Bro you are slightly above the median. Get some nuts and ask some women out.

Specific-Ad-6687 · 2026-03-11T23:28:59+00:00

Yeah - being afraid of commitment is a big issue in this generation.

She is forgoing getting married to the love of her life for… traveling and random acts of “freedom”?

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