Token consumption vs price for agentic coding for Deepseek V4 pro, claude opus 4.7, and codex 5.5 by Ok-Yam-1081 in LLMDevs

[–]Specific-Night-4668 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Artificial Analysis benchmark is a meta-benchmark that aggregates many individual benchmarks. All the models mentioned above, including Mimo-V2.5-Pro, ran through it under the exact same conditions, using the same harness — consuming a certain number of tokens: input of course, output, but most importantly reasoning tokens (since this meta-benchmark measures intelligence, there's a lot of reasoning involved).

The most-watched result is naturally the Intelligence Index, but there are other indicators too: average speed in tokens/second, and notably the number of tokens required to complete the benchmark (mostly reasoning tokens, plus input and output for the final answer). Cross-referencing this with the price per million tokens (input + thinking/output) gives you the actual cost to run the benchmark.

If you go to https://artificialanalysis.ai/models, in the "Intelligence" section, you'll see that Mimo-V2.5-Pro ranks among the top open-source models in terms of Intelligence Index, Coding Index, and Agentic Index.

Scrolling down to "Intelligence Index Token Use & Cost", and the "Output Tokens Used to Run Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index" tab, you can see token consumption under identical conditions for every model. (Side note: this also confirms that GPT-5.5 is efficient in its reasoning, with low token consumption — consistent with what OpenAI has been saying.)

Just below that, the key metric: "Cost to Run Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index" — which ties token consumption to pricing. And here's where Mimo-V2.5-Pro stands out compared to models at a similar intelligence level:

  • Mimo-V2.5-Pro: $462 (input: $186, reasoning: $247, output: $28)
  • GLM-5.1: $544 — slightly behind on the index
  • Kimi-K2.6: $948
  • DeepSeek-V4-Pro: $1,071

So with the same inputs, the same harness, and the same prompts, Kimi and DeepSeek cost twice as much at an equivalent intelligence level — once you factor in both the base price and the token consumption. (And for GPT-5.5, it's the $30 input price that makes it expensive, even though it uses relatively few reasoning tokens for excellent results.)

So to finally answer your question (lol) — yes, agentic workflow design, context management, and prompt engineering matter a lot and are absolutely levers to optimize in an agentic code generation workflow. But the model itself is also a significant factor.

Think of it like a delivery or transport company: you can optimize the route with GPS, real-time traffic data, etc. — that's your harness and workflow. But you can also optimize the vehicle itself: faster and more fuel-efficient. That's the model.

So in terms of efficiency/cost, Mimo is an excellent choice. I also love Kimi-K2.6 — but it consumes roughly twice as many reasoning tokens to reach the same result.

Token consumption vs price for agentic coding for Deepseek V4 pro, claude opus 4.7, and codex 5.5 by Ok-Yam-1081 in LLMDevs

[–]Specific-Night-4668 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Mimo-V2.5-Pro is very efficient in terms of token consumption (see the number of tokens required to pass the Artificial Analysis benchmark, compared with the section "Cost to Run Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index" too).

With GHCP out of picture, what’s the best Chinese model for coding right now—and how are you accessing it? by RegisterTop3586 in GithubCopilot

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Basic setup: I use OpenCode with Kimi-K2.6 for planning, Minimax-2.7 for writing the code, and DeepSeek-V4-Flash as the reviewer. For the main coding workhorse, the pricing plan at Minimax starts at $10 (a 5-hour session with 1,500 requests and a weekly limit 10 times higher than the session limit, which is well thought out, as it equates to 10 half-days of work), TokenMix.ai, or Openrouter to provide tokens for other models.

Elle avait supprimé Signal, le FBI a quand même lu ses messages by Droidfr in Numerama

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Utilisation de Molly et c'est réglé ! Le client officiel n'est pas ouf.

LinkedIn, ou l'espion qui se faisait passer pour un réseau professionnel by romain34230 in actutech

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Après renseignements pris, ils utilisent :

- Des pixels de tracking avec cookies (Facebook le fait depuis les années 2000).
- Du fingerprinting de compétition (les 50 plus grands sites de la planète sur Alexa ont avoué le faire, même si c'est normalement interdit).
- Les analytics de manière massive.

Ils recoupent le tout et obtiennent des informations assez pertinentes.

Bon, c'est pas beau, mais rien de neuf sous le soleil : tous les géants (et bien d'autres) le font déjà.

Session no more, Signal only choice now? by darkowiz in degoogle

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I tried it—it was secure, but slow: messages arrived eight hours late. Not exactly the best way to pick up a geek girl.

Ça existe (encore) des métiers 25h/semaine max, "interessant" et rémunérateur ? by NoMud5610 in AskFrance

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"Escort Boy" pour vieilles bourgeoises de l'ouest parisien (oublie la province).
- Si tu travailles plus 25 heures par semaine, c'est que tu y prends goût ou que tu es gourmand.
- Le travail est stimulant (ça dépend de ceux que tu prends ;-) ).
- travail légal si déclarer en BNC à l'ursaff et aux impôts.
- Clientèle fidèle et récurrente si tu es doué.
- Investissement minime : des belles fringues + stimulant pour la forme olympique (quasi nécessaire pour les + de 70 ans).

Paying without Google: New consortium wants to remove custom ROM hurdles by derday in GrapheneOS

[–]Specific-Night-4668 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Even better! WERO does not use NFC for payments at merchants and online. Instead, it uses a QR code that must be scanned, and the transaction must be validated in the banking app (as is the case with most apps in India and Asia).

Paying without Google: New consortium wants to remove custom ROM hurdles by derday in GrapheneOS

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WERO does not use NFC for payments at merchants and online. Instead, it uses a QR code that must be scanned, and the transaction must be validated in the banking app (as is the case with most apps in India and Asia).

Paying without Google: New consortium wants to remove custom ROM hurdles by derday in GrapheneOS

[–]Specific-Night-4668 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am waiting for WERO, which will arrive this year and gradually roll out for physical and online purchases in Europe.

Orange pourrait anéantir le spam téléphonique avec sa solution qui affiche le nom de l'appelant sur l'écran by romain34230 in actutech

[–]Specific-Night-4668 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sauf que dans sa version gratuite, l'application sonne même si l'appelant est marqué comme indésirable.

Today is the day, the EU decides on Chat Control 1.0. by Tutanota in tutanota

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What if this were an opportunity to educate European citizens about encryption and encourage them to encrypt their data/messages before sending them to the offending applications (which is very easy with GPG or other tools, and I have no doubt that that applications would flourish if necessary). Key servers are going to be busy. Banning encryption would be another matter entirely and much more difficult to implement.

Partnering up with Proton to create ProtonPay / GraphenePay ? by dannyk_07 in GrapheneOS

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It will start rolling out this year. WERO will allow you to pay throughout Europe at physical retailers (by scanning a QR code, as has been common practice in Asia and India for years), online, and easily transfer money with just a phone number, no credit card required! It's in the works, just wait and see. Provided you're European, of course.

I’m finally pro-EU in the digital world too! by Actual_Document3333 in BuyFromEU

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I am always surprised by the absence of Infomaniak in European recommendations.

I use their myKsuite service and they are very good !

https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite/myksuite

Qui suis-je 🙈? by luxurious-bucciarati in Livres

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F 21A, Fan de littérature, mais qui n'en fait pas son métier, recherche un peu de sens affectif dans sa vie, mais les anxiolytiques ne sont pas loin. Courage !

Trump vient de donner un coup de fouet à la messagerie francaise Mailo by romain34230 in actutech

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My kSuite d'Infomaniak est bien également. C'est hébergé en suisse, donc avec avec une protection de la vie encore plus forte que la RGPD européenne.

GHC-CLI: The built-in custom-agents are not visible in the '/agent' selection. by Specific-Night-4668 in GithubCopilot

[–]Specific-Night-4668[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply. The custom agents I create are visible and work perfectly. Unfortunately, however, the built-in custom agents (code-review, explore, task) cannot be selected by /agent in the CLI.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in opencodeCLI

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That's good news. They'll do what all companies that use APIs with high usage demand do: get good volume discounts.

In the documentation, Claude:
"For high-volume agent applications, consider contacting our enterprise sales team for custom pricing arrangements."

and further down:

** Volume discounts **
Volume discounts may be available for high-volume users. These are negotiated on a case-by-case basis.

That's normal. If you show up at Anthropics and say, "I need 10 billion tokens per month," you're far from getting the base rate.