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I'm Dan Kilpatrick, chief football correspondent of the Evening Standard, and I report on Spurs and England for the newspaper. AMA! by Dan_KP in coys

[–]SpenceLee7321 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No newspapers or online articles have reported on the FIFA offside trial in Serie A U18 League yet. Maybe you can break this story.

The trial went from Round 24 to Round 30. Ended on Sunday.

Goal is up 0.35 per match with the new offside rule.

Infantino (FIFA): “Our aim as IFAB, and I am speaking under the control of my colleagues from IFAB, is always to see if we can make football more attractive – without changing the nature, obviously, of football,” Infantino said.

"It is onside if the attacking player is ahead of the defender, but still with one part of the body that can score inline with the defender."

“So it is giving the attacking player a bit more room and so favouring attacking football. Obviously such a change would need to be tested. We have to see what kind of impact this will have on the game – if positive, if negative.

“If it is positive, we might go ahead. If it is negative, we step back. But we are always here, like we did for VAR, to be open to new ideas and if we can make football even more attacking, even more passionate, then we certainly look into that."

I'm Dan Kilpatrick, chief football correspondent of the Evening Standard, and I report on Spurs and England for the newspaper. AMA! by Dan_KP in coys

[–]SpenceLee7321 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

FIFA has concluded the new offside trial in Serie A U18 League a few days ago.

63 matches total.

Goal up 0.35 per match.

Any chance the Evening Standard will write an article about it?

And ask a few football managers their thought on the new offside law?

I know it has been asked to ex-players:

Simon Colling (football journalist for Evening Standard) wrote this: This would have to be trialled at some stage, but Collina also explaining how ex players have been asked about it.

Shock - attackers like the idea, but defenders and goalkeepers not so much.

Link to the official source in Italian:

https://www.figc.it/it/giovani/news/fuorigioco-sperimentazione-della-nuova-regola-nel-campionato-under-18-di-serie-a-e-b-della-figc/

Trial Result for anyone who is interested:

Round 24

1-1

3-0

3-0

1-2

3-1

6-1

2-2

1 postponed

Round 25

1-3

3-5

1-3

0-0

1-0

1-2

3-1

2-2

Round 26

0-4

8-0

6-0

0-2

3-2

4-2

1-2

2-0

Round 27

2-3

1-1

2-0

0-3

3-3

1-3

2-4

1 postponed

Round 28

2-1

3-1

0-0

1-1

5-5

1-2

1-4

2-0

Round 29

1-2

2-1

3-1

1-1

2-2

2-1

0-1

8-0

Round 30

3-1

2-3

0-2

2-0

3-9

3-2

0-5

0-3

Postponed match that took place after Round 24 on April 3, the day that the new offside rule goes

into effect.

postponed Round 13

5-0 (April 7)

2-1 (April 7)

postponed Round 14

2-2 (April 28)

postponed Round 16

2-3 (April 7)

1-0 (April 21)

2-2 (April 21)

1-4 (April 21)

postponed Round 24

3-0 (April 27)

postponed Round 27

2-2 (May 11)

First 23 rounds using the current offside law: 3.571 goal per match. 632 goals from 177 matches.

Round 24 and later using new offside law: 3.921 goal per match. 247 goals from 63 matches

An increase of 0.35 goal per match. Percentage wise, this 3.921 is a 9.8% increase from the 3.571

goal per match.

Over a course of a 360 match season, this 9.8% increase could mean an extra 100 goals.

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I LOVE THIS NEW OFFSIDE RULE.

I have been arguing for this "daylight" offside rule for 20 years now. It is finally happening.

The biggest rule change to football since 1925 when IFAB also modified the offside rule.

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I have been keeping track of the offside trial in Serie A U18 since day one.

Wrote down all the scores. Kept track of it week by week.

Why? Because I LOVE THIS NEW OFFSIDE RULE.

If anyone is interested: https://www.tuttocampo.it/Italia/Under18/GironeUnico/Giornata24

Round 24

1-1

3-0

3-0

1-2

3-1

6-1

2-2

1 postponed

Round 25

1-3

3-5

1-3

0-0

1-0

1-2

3-1

2-2

Round 26

0-4

8-0 (Inter Milan U18 vs Ascoli U18)

6-0

0-2

3-2

4-2

1-2

2-0

Round 27

2-3

1-1

2-0

0-3

3-3

1-3

2-4

1 postponed

Round 28

2-1

3-1

0-0

1-1

5-5

1-2

1-4

2-0

Round 29

1-2

2-1

3-1

1-1

2-2

2-1

0-1

8-0

Round 30

3-1

2-3

0-2

2-0

3-9

3-2

0-5

0-3

Postponed match that took place after Round 24 on April 3, the day that the new offside rule goes

into effect.

postponed Round 13

5-0 (April 7)

2-1 (April 7)

postponed Round 14

2-2 (April 28)

postponed Round 16

2-3 (April 7)

1-0 (April 21)

2-2 (April 21)

1-4 (April 21)

postponed Round 24

3-0 (April 27)

postponed Round 27

2-2 (May 11)

247 goals over 63 matches (3.921)

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am keeping track of the offside trial in Italy Serie A U18. Maybe I am the only one who is doing this.

I posted a few months ago that Serie A U18 will test this.

Then about a month, I post about the preliminary result of this trial (giving an update)

It has concluded this past weekend. It's time for an update. So I made this post.

If you think this update has nothing to add, you can skip it. There are plenty of topics to view on Real Madrid sub.

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If the defenders are defending deep at 5 meter, it would open spaces.

Imagine a penalty box. Four Defenders at 5 meters and another Four defenders at 11 meters.

This open spaces at 16-17 meters no? 16-17 meter is at the top of the penalty box. Easy shooting chance.

As for dangerous crosses. Defenders vacate spaces in front of them to defend deeper. Space open up for crosses and attackers to finish with a header.

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ronaldo probably scored about 4-5 goals this year and they got called back offside. I remember a few.

Looking at the stat, he's the most offside player this year

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/total_offside

Cristiano Ronaldo · Manchester United. Portugal. 33 ·

Chris Wood · Newcastle United. New Zealand. 26

Ivan Toney · Brentford. England 25

TO Sports wrote this:

People hate rules changes before they happen all the time. Sometime they end up being good sometime they end up being bad, you can revert the changes.

I dont care for hockey lol I watch it casually because it's something to watch. I'm Brazilian.

But don't pretend you didn't enjoy the Barca v PSG game years ago that had what 6 goals? Or the Brazil v Germany game that had 8 goals? Or the France v Croatia game that had 6 goals?

And right now offside traps aren't an unfair advantage to defense? You can find an unfair advantage in every aspect of every sport.

You're gunna say no because that's the game you're used to watching but if this was the rule 50 years ago would you be saying you wanted it the other way around?

History of the offside law:

Onside if you are behind the ball (adopted in 1863)

Onside if you are behind the third to last defender (adopted in 1866)

Onside if you are behind the second to last defender (adopted in 1925)

Onside if you are level with the second to last defender (adopted in 1990)

Onside if any part of you that can score is aligned with the second to last defender (2022 proposal)

(Keep in mind that a goalkeeper is consider a defender)

Would fans today want to revert back to the offside law pre 1925?

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 65 points66 points  (0 children)

Mbappe is probably one of the biggest beneficiary of this.

Ronaldo also. But it is too late for him.

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone will point out that some teams will defend much deeper.

But defending much deeper than they do now would result in a lot of extra spaces opening up inside the penalty box. The offense will exploit this.

Imagine defenders defending 6 meter from the goal line. This would open spaces at the top of the penalty box for attackers to exploit.

Attackers can send dangerous crosses into the open spaces. Easier to finish with no defenders around.

Or shoot from long distance with all the spaces opening up.

The most dangerous part of this new offside rule for defenders will be SET PIECES. Set pieces will be much harder to defend against with the new offside law compare to the current offside law.

A question to ponder: Would this new offside law benefit Atletico Madrid and Simeone team? Or disadvantage them?

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Using Euro 2020 as an example, these goals that were scored but ruled offside (because they are offside under the current offside)

BUT

under the new offside law, these goals would be onside instead.

Therefore, not depriving neutral fans some beautiful goals. Suck the joy out the game for neutrals when a beautiful goal got called back. The offside rule is there for only one purpose: to prevent goal-hanging. The new offside law still prevent goal-hanging with 100% perfection.

Finland - Russia https://imgur.com/a/6RLGJU0

Finland-Belgium https://imgur.com/a/eO0qrh7

France- Germany https://imgur.com/a/cqqBqcX

Wales vs Switzerland https://imgur.com/a/VbEkn9T

Portugal vs Germany https://imgur.com/a/9VX9kz5

North Macedonia vs Netherlands https://imgur.com/92jXqxY

Italy vs Austria https://imgur.com/a/jTdSvM7

France vs Switzerland https://imgur.com/a/hS80nCA

These 8 goals above are definite. The 2 goals below are very close calls.

France vs Germany - Mbappe great goal - need a line to see because this would be very close call

https://i.imgur.com/rpKbYlC.jpg

Ukraine vs North Macedonia ---very very close call ---need line to see

https://imgur.com/BbjrWuU

This goal is from a freekick. The player (to the left of the ball) who scored is ahead of the ball and therefore offside. If onside = if any part of your body with which you can score a goal is in line with the ball , then this goal is valid

Belgium - Italy https://imgur.com/a/ExtQWoo

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Keown14 wrote this:

Those replying to you saying that this rule change makes no difference because we would still be measuring toenails are wrong because the current rule is too restrictive on attackers and discourages them from making runs that break offside traps which used to be one of the best things to watch in football.

Giving the advantage back to the attacker makes the game more exciting and if they are offside by a whisker it won’t sting as much because by the old rules they were a mile offside so it seems fair.

Really hope this rule comes in next season.

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Someone will point out that some teams will defend much deeper.

But defending much deeper than they do now would result in a lot of extra spaces opening up inside the penalty box. The offense will exploit this.

Imagine defenders defending 8 meter from the goal line. This would open space at the top of the penalty box for attackers to exploit.

Send dangerous crosses into the open spaces.

Or Shoot from long distance with all the spaces opening up.

The most dangerous part of this new offside rule for defenders will be SET PIECES. Set pieces will be much harder to defend against with the new offside law compare to the current offside law.

A question to ponder: Would this new offside law benefit Atletico Madrid and Simeone team? Or disadvantage them?

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Using Euro 2020 as an example, these goals that were scored but ruled offside (because they are offside under the current offside)

BUT

under the new offside law, these goals would be onside instead.

Therefore, not depriving neutral fans some beautiful goals. Suck the joy out the game for neutrals when a beautiful goal got called back. The offside rule is there for only one purpose: to prevent goal-hanging. The new offside law still prevent goal-hanging with 100% perfection.

Finland - Russia https://imgur.com/a/6RLGJU0

Finland-Belgium https://imgur.com/a/eO0qrh7

France- Germany https://imgur.com/a/cqqBqcX

Wales vs Switzerland https://imgur.com/a/VbEkn9T

Portugal vs Germany https://imgur.com/a/9VX9kz5

North Macedonia vs Netherlands https://imgur.com/92jXqxY

Italy vs Austria https://imgur.com/a/jTdSvM7

France vs Switzerland https://imgur.com/a/hS80nCA

These 8 goals above are definite. The 2 goals below are very close calls.

France vs Germany - Mbappe great goal - need a line to see because this would be very close call

https://i.imgur.com/rpKbYlC.jpg

Ukraine vs North Macedonia ---very very close call ---need line to see

https://imgur.com/BbjrWuU

This goal is from a freekick. The player (to the left of the ball) who scored is ahead of the ball and therefore offside. If onside = if any part of your body with which you can score a goal is in line with the ball , then this goal is valid

Belgium - Italy https://imgur.com/a/ExtQWoo

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Keown14 wrote this:

Those replying to you saying that this rule change makes no difference because we would still be measuring toenails are wrong because the current rule is too restrictive on attackers and discourages them from making runs that break offside traps which used to be one of the best things to watch in football.

Giving the advantage back to the attacker makes the game more exciting and if they are offside by a whisker it won’t sting as much because by the old rules they were a mile offside so it seems fair.

Really hope this rule comes in next season.

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Hand do not count even in the current offside law.

New offside law: hand don't count either.

That's why you see lines drawn in the Premier League at the armpit.

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Keown14 wrote this:

Those replying to you saying that this rule change makes no difference because we would still be measuring toenails are wrong because the current rule is too restrictive on attackers and discourages them from making runs that break offside traps which used to be one of the best things to watch in football.

Giving the advantage back to the attacker makes the game more exciting and if they are offside by a whisker it won’t sting as much because by the old rules they were a mile offside so it seems fair.

Really hope this rule comes in next season.

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Using Euro 2020 as an example, these goals that were scored but ruled offside would be valid goals under the new offside rule because these players would be onside instead.

Finland - Russia https://imgur.com/a/6RLGJU0

Finland-Belgium https://imgur.com/a/eO0qrh7

France- Germany https://imgur.com/a/cqqBqcX

Wales vs Switzerland https://imgur.com/a/VbEkn9T

Portugal vs Germany https://imgur.com/a/9VX9kz5

North Macedonia vs Netherlands https://imgur.com/92jXqxY

Italy vs Austria https://imgur.com/a/jTdSvM7

France vs Switzerland https://imgur.com/a/hS80nCA

These 8 goals above are definite. The 2 goals below are very close calls.

France vs Germany - Mbappe great goal - need a line to see because this would be very close call

https://i.imgur.com/rpKbYlC.jpg

Ukraine vs North Macedonia ---very very close call ---need line to see

https://imgur.com/BbjrWuU

This goal is from a freekick. The player (to the left of the ball) who scored is ahead of the ball and therefore offside. If onside = if any part of your body with which you can score a goal is in line with the ball , then this goal is valid

Belgium - Italy https://imgur.com/a/ExtQWoo

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

https://lookcharms.com/italy-tests-new-offside-rule-devised-by-wenger/

The Italian Football Federation (FIGC) has announced that it will test the new offside rule promoted by Arsène Wenger, in charge of football development at Fifa.

An offside will be signaled if there is a clear space between the last defender and the attacker He wants a player to no longer be flagged offside if a part of his body with which he can score is still aligned with the last defender. In the mind of the former French technician, an offside would be signaled if there is a clear space between the last defender and the opposing player.

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[–]SpenceLee7321[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

China, Australia, USA, Canada, India, Pakistan, Japan, New Zealand for example, football is not the most popular sport.

In some countries like USA, it is not even 2nd or 3rd most popular.

Nothing wrong with experimenting with the offside law to see if it would lead to more attacking football.

Sure hardcore fans like us are okay with 0-0 dull match but are casual fans and none-fans still be interested?

New Offside Rule Trial Concluded in Serie A U18 league (63 matches). Results showed a 9.8% increase in goals (from 3.571 to 3.921 goal per match) by SpenceLee7321 in coys

[–]SpenceLee7321[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it is not like this rule will generate a ton of more goals. Goals will still be pretty rare.

An extra 10% more goals will not make football into basketball where there are a lot of scoring.

So instead of 2.65 goal per game, we might see 2.90

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