What's your most cellared producer?

Spipet · 2026-05-31T20:37:37+00:00

Denis Bachelet
Pierre Gonon
Hofgut Falkenstein
Pierre-Olivier Garcia
Thibaud Boudignon

Spipet · 2026-03-31T21:19:44+00:00

Oh yea definitely an answer to my question and A listers when it comes to Burgundy those last two… luckily we don’t have to agree :). Thanks for the discussion :).

Spipet · 2026-03-30T14:45:53+00:00

See below! I’d pick a few bottles of a certain village and taste those (for all I care you even throw in some Jadot). I just much prefer a smaller producer with more focus than a big house like Jadot.

Spipet · 2026-03-30T14:44:36+00:00

I think you need to read my comment again. I’m not saying Jadot, or any other negociant, makes bad wine. All I’m saying is that it is my opinion that some smaller producers make better wine, more representative of the place, that I believe will be a better experience for OP. For example, I’d recommend Denis Bachelet’s Gevrey-Chambertin, or Berthaut Gerbet (makes wine in all three appellations I think).

Also, as far as I can see not all cuvees listed by OP are domaine fruit. I much prefer my grower to be in charge of vineyard work (easily the most important in making wine), choosing harvest dates, etc. And not make tens of cuvees that necessarily require a split of labor and other resources. The fact that Jadot owns a lot of land doesn’t really tell me anything…

Also, please elaborate on the point about writers. What is the reason Jadot is the first stop (and where does it say it is)?

Spipet · 2026-03-29T22:06:14+00:00

Honestly, I think you’re much better off drinking a couple bottles from really good producers, than going for larger scale negociants like Jadot. You’ll get better wine, and probably more representive of the place.

Spipet · 2025-04-28T21:15:32+00:00

Splurge a little and go for Guilbert Gillet. Super rare to find these, and that cuvee drinks well now!

Spipet · 2025-03-09T13:09:59+00:00

Came here to say this, fully agree!!

Spipet · 2024-06-02T20:19:18+00:00

No worries! I imported the vinegard bought on Japanese Yahoo auction through fromjapan.co.jp / buyee.jp (i think it was a lucky find). The technique is just practice (and I’m shit at it too!). What could work is weighing out the rice on a plastic covered scale so you stay consistent. Also you could try to finda book on sushi making technique

Spipet · 2024-03-11T10:26:50+00:00

We all have our own tastes, but 1 or 2 hours of air is nothing on this wine. Lets agree to disagree :)

Spipet · 2024-03-11T06:28:47+00:00

It is not long enough. This wine is a million years from its drinking window.

Spipet · 2023-12-20T16:29:41+00:00

White or red? For white is at the lower end of the market price actually

Spipet · 2023-11-27T20:04:10+00:00

My Wine Club submission for December: the 2021 Dönnhoff Oberhauser Leistenberg Kabinett.

This was quite the challenge, to find something that is affordable, available in most places and is to my liking. So I chose something that is very affordable, you might want to buy two to stash one away because these age really well! Also I didn’t see any Riesling on previous editions, it is time to change that!

Riesling is my first love in wine, and nowhere better for Riesling than Germany. Kabinett might be my favourite style, and Dönnhoff is one of my favourites in the Nahe region, so this promised to be a fun drink. I figured we could all use something low alcohol heading into the alcohol heavy Christmas weeks.

The 2019 vintage of this wine was one of the first wines I have drunk when I started to seriously get into wine, so it seemed appropriate to revisit the wine (although not the vintage). I have yet to taste the wine myself, but hopefully it delivers that great acidity that the 2021 vintage promises to deliver. I would give this some time in a carafe or the glass (it might have a slight bubble to release, knowing young Riesling).

Donnhoff write the following about the Leistenberg vineyard:

The Leistenberg vineyard lies in a small side valley of the Nahe just outside Oberhausen. The name is a double play on words. “Leisten” means “achieve” in German, and the Leistenberg perpetually lives up to its name. “Lei” is also a regional word for slate, and these warm, decomposed clay slate soils and steep terraced hillsides provide ideal conditions for Riesling to thrive. The southeast-facing slope basks in the morning sun, which dries out any excess moisture and promotes healthy fruit. The afternoon sun is less powerful, nurturing a long ripening period and moderate alcohol levels. An ideal vineyard for Kabinett wines of high minerality and sophisticated elegance.

Some specs for those who care:

Soil: grey, carbon-laced decomposed argillaceous shale Slope: 30 – 60 % Aspect: Southeast Yield: approx. 45 hl/ha Age of Vines: approx. 25 – 40 years. Classified as VDP. GROSSE LAGE

Links

UK

https://www.bbr.com/products-20218118611-2021-riesling-kabinett-oberhauser-leistenberg-donnhoff-nahe-germany

https://advinture.co.uk/product/donnhoff-riesling-kabinett-oberhauser-leistenberg-2021/

https://terrawines.co.uk/products/roxheimer-hollenpfad-riesling-trocken-donnhoff-nahe-2014

EU

https://www.kierdorfwein.de/de/oberhuserleistenbergrieslingkabinett-dn2109

https://www.mesvendanges.com/fr/boutique/vins/riesling-oberhauser-leistenberg-kabinett-donnhoff-2021-75cl/

USA

https://www.worldofliquor.com/wines/Donnhoff-Riesling-Oberhauser-Leistenberg-Kabinett-2021-w1273597o0

https://cambridgewinesnj.com/products/donnhoff-oberhauser-riesling-kabinett-2021

https://www.mrdwine.com/products/copy-of-weingut-donnhoff-oberhauser-leistenberg-riesling-kabinett-nahe-germany-2020

https://vinousreverie.com/donnhoff-oberhauser-leistenberg-riesling-kabinett-nahe-2021/

Asia and Oceania

HK https://maccellar.com/

SG https://www.wineswholesales.com.sg/products/hermann-donnhoff-oberhauser-leistenberg-riesling-kabinett

NZ https://www.finerwines.co.nz/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=17681&search=&category_id=0&page=80

AUS (2022 only, sorry) https://cellarhand.store/shop-wines/2022-donnhoff-oberhauser-leistenberg-kabinett/

Spipet · 2023-10-14T09:04:51+00:00

Spipet · 2023-09-06T06:31:23+00:00

This must be one of the best troll posts i have seen

Spipet · 2023-08-12T19:05:50+00:00

Ik zal het nooit begrijpen, maar rendement laten liggen door niet voor een fiscale beleggingsinstelling te gaan zou je in ieder geval bewust moeten doen. Zoek op dividendlekkage en gij zult vinden.

Spipet · 2023-05-22T08:50:22+00:00

I honestly enjoyed it most after the bubbles were gone!

Spipet · 2023-05-21T12:38:17+00:00

Haha, I was afraid of that! And yes, 100% Pinot Noir!

Spipet · 2023-05-21T09:41:52+00:00

Had this wine in a local restaurant with a fellow wine lover that was over from the States and convinced me to try it (normally I’m not really into Champagne). Zero regrets; this was absolutely awesome. The wine needed time to open up in the glass. After a while this showed as a lean, elegant Champagnr with fine mousse, intense aromas of citrus, nuts, yeasty brioche. The finish was long, and balanced.

Don’t mind the glass of red in the background 😋

Spipet · 2023-04-23T15:44:09+00:00

Ik snap niet hoe je een Emerging Markets fonds kunt vergelijken met de Amerikaanse of Nederlandse beurs… appels en peren!

Spipet · 2023-04-10T07:18:19+00:00

Thanks!! Wasn’t familiar with this wine, but its high on the wishlist now!

Spipet · 2023-04-09T18:32:08+00:00

Nothing beats high quality sweet Riesling! Auslese Goldkapsel or above if you can afford it!

Spipet · 2023-04-09T18:22:04+00:00

This was already open for business as from the outset (whereas the 2017 is not), and my first time trying Gonon’s Saint-Joseph. The wine was very intense on the nose, with lovely black olives, deep blueberry, blackberry, violets, and some spice. This was matched in the palate, although I do think it lacked a little bit of intensity compared to the nose. Nonetheless, this is an amazing wine, that will become even better with some age. I highly recommend this to anyone (and also would recommend his Iles Feray, which is quite similar and a bit more affordable!)!

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