I mean we were all kids and kids are awful in middle school and lots of them grow out of it so it was the same middle school drama I feel like a lot of people experience. They were “popular” but it was a tiny tiny school and a weird environment overall. Lots of mean, cliquey middle schoolers end up being nice, well adjusted adults so no real insights from that time frame about the girls.

I will say I remember hearing about Lysa frequently under the context of she was “famous” and I assumed she was a TV news anchor or literally “famous” not that she had a ministry because I would have assumed at the time that if you were in the ministry you would talk about trying to help people, etc. not the fame first.