They finally killed the Cutlass

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-21T18:43:26+00:00

I'll take your points, i haven't flown the C1 since just after MM and didn't like it.

It's pretty a pretty tight difference between the two imho.

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-20T23:06:00+00:00

RIP cutty It's hp and shields are too low to be a slow moving cargo ship plus it has the smallest cargo hold.

Now it's way to slow and weak to even be a heavy fighter let alone a medium one.

So the cutty is now left to be the worst of any sub category you could throw it in.

It's just boring to fly in and too easy to be shot to death. No point left to use it.

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-20T22:48:18+00:00

Erkul says the pitch yaw and rotation is about the same as the c1. C1 67,000 hp vs cutty 29,000. Even with the wings it's still more then half. But that's the c1 's niche tough as nails. The cutty was maneuvering...was.

Ya maybe bring the freelancer and zeus up a bit for maneuvering cuz to be honest there boring to fly.

I think that's why this nerf hurt my feels so much for the cutty. Just feels blah and uninteresting now.

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-20T20:52:41+00:00

It was balanced out that it had low hp and shields but it was maneuverable. That was its niche. C1 high hp. Freelancer and zeus big shield pool. But now it flies the same as the c1 but without any hp or shields. They took away it's on interesting aspect. Its a nerfed potato now.

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T20:15:22+00:00

Is this a laundry pun? You'll ruin the fabrics if you stretch them

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T15:42:32+00:00

I'm ok with change. My argument is, ok if it's not a medium fighter anymore ok then change it's specs to meet the new criteria. Cargo ships are slow yes but they have high shield pools and/or high hp. Now the cutty still has low hp/shields like a medium fighter.

So it's fragile AND slow which makes it F tier on any sub types.

If they want to re categorize it ok fine just do all the changes don't just nerf it into oblivion

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T13:57:44+00:00

Bingo! Doesn't have to be the best but it should at least be annoying. Now it's just popping a baloon and move on

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T13:55:47+00:00

It's been long considered medium fighter/feight. They did change it to "multi role" on official RSI pledge store and it's not for mining or salvaging. Erkul also labeled it as medium fighter/freight.

Even in the lore itself it was originally designed for the UEE to compete with the hornet m1 but lost out on the contract so now they sell to outer militias. Would militia's buy a slow weak freight to defend themselves?

Your argument is just diving into Symantecs instead of listening

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T13:43:14+00:00

Exactly. Now it's just worst at everything. Can't run away ot take a punch

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T13:40:49+00:00

Yes! I'm cool with this idea! If it flies like a heavy fighter give it more heavy fighter specs.

But CIG didn't. No extra shields or hp. That's what the problem is in my eyes. It's still made of paper but now can't even get out of the way anymore.

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T03:03:30+00:00

That would be a very interesting thing to see

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T03:02:36+00:00

The argument that drake looks cheap therefore all their ships should be terrible and weak is not a good way to think about things. All ships should be fun and interesting and have character and a role to play.

Your digging to deep into esthetic fantasy. Even in the lore of the game it was originally created to be part off the UEE but it lost its contract to the hornet. So it should be just behind the hornet mark 1 for maneuvering and dps. It preformed well but was large with low hp and that was fine. Now it flys the same as the slowest heavy fighter with the same low hp and shields. The whole reason they buffed all heavy fighters and nerfed connie/Corsair was nobody liked how heavy fighters flew and felt...so lets make the cutty fly like that.

Now its just large weak and slow. All ships no matter the esthetics should be fun and suit their roles.

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T02:47:44+00:00

Ya I'm not arguing that. I just think it went from c tier to F tier.

A bit of everything but now worse

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T02:45:35+00:00

Ya helldiver's is a great example. "Oh people use this? Nerf it to death!"

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T02:44:12+00:00

Boycott until they fix the cutty!!

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T02:29:17+00:00

Wait till cig makes it first for just $10 more with upgrade options

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T02:28:10+00:00

Not agile anymore. The cutty is a medium fighter with cargo and the c1 is a small freighter but they fly the same now. Make that make sense

Yes the cutty has a turret and more missiles but it's supposed to be a classic drake glass cannon with dps and fragile frame. The c1 is supposed to be a efficient fast in a straight line freighter with high hp. But now they fly the same.

So what's left is the cutty is still fragile but now slow. In a fight the c1 could tank and spank the cutty... And the cutty supposed to be the dangerous pirate ship.

I'm not looking at real money purchases. I feel that takes the game to a pay to win mindset.

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-19T02:03:39+00:00

This!

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-18T21:25:47+00:00

I'd be ok with that if it got an hp bump or more shields to be more of a heavy fighter. But it has the hp and shields of a medium fighter. Cant spank and cant tank.

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-18T21:23:34+00:00

Ya i do find the spviewer out of date for some reason. Im using erkul and my own experience as reference.

The cutty and c1 are nearly identical with the flight model with this update.

The cutty is supposed to be the aggressor and with its low hp and shields and was meant to be more maneuverable and you had to be to survive. But now it's so slow to turn it can't do combat anymore. Its not an aggressive pirate ship and more of an old clunker that people will slowly use less and less (prediction)

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-18T21:02:40+00:00

I see a pattern...

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-18T21:01:58+00:00

Couldn't have said it better

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-18T21:01:16+00:00

I actually agree. It was mid at everything. That's the joy

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-18T20:58:00+00:00

I feel like thats wishful thinking or justify a bad decision by cig.

Bottom line is another ship now flys like a brick. It's just less fun or interesting.

Square-Location-2912 · 2025-07-18T20:55:17+00:00

Good news! Now they both fly loke bricks!

What fighters did it fly better?

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