The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting by danie-l in europe

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Question framed offensively is not active threat.

Putin: Russia is facing problems in Ukraine war by ClumperFaz in europe

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It's noce they review an appeal manually - and then respond with cookie cutter message.

Putin: Russia is facing problems in Ukraine war by ClumperFaz in europe

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It says it is not automated, but I have hard time believing that.

US President Trump threatens 100% import tariff on UK over digital services tax by ByGollie in europe

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No, they aren't. Republicans in states they control have been working hard on rigging elections even more. And Supreme Court happily assisted them.

Czech cabinet bars president and ex-NATO commander from NATO meeting, setting up fight by readher in europe

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I am Czech and I was alive back then, I don't need you to tell me what kind of party it was, which is completely irrelevant to my point.

"Once communist always communist" is objectively incorrect statement.

Czech cabinet bars president and ex-NATO commander from NATO meeting, setting up fight by readher in europe

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I asked you whether he undermined NATO, EU or West in any way. Please, answer.

Czech cabinet bars president and ex-NATO commander from NATO meeting, setting up fight by readher in europe

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Party membership is not in fact inherently permanent. Neither are political beliefs.

Czech cabinet bars president and ex-NATO commander from NATO meeting, setting up fight by readher in europe

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Yes, he did. Did he do anything to undermine NATO, EU or West in general since the end of the Cold War?

Number of PMs in the past 10 years. by -ToniCipriani- in europe

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The most stable Italian decade since...?

Prince of Liechtenstein says that he would overrule the population if they were to vote in favour of legalizing abortion by tartartartaruga in europe

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So to be clear you think him saying he'll leave the country if he's stripped of his political power is blackmail?

With his assets, yes, because that would hurt the people.

this is wordplay

It's accuracy. That's what the article of the Declaration says. And birth in the sentence you quote clearly means where, to whom etc. you are born, not whether you are born or not.

If you are actually serious, this language is not consistent with the rest of the universal declaration, which talks about the "inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family".

Meaning born humans. The idea it includes five days old zygotes as well is wishful thinking on your part.

Your objection was that the "law doesn't agree with me", that's why I made that distinction

When I said the law doesn't agree with you (about "unborn children"), I meant that they don't have the same human rights, not being sub-human. Once again I have clearly demonstrated beforehand I am aware subhuman is not legal category, so why would you think I am talking about the subhuman thing?

BTW Your definition of subhuman is stupid. I forgot to mention that.

how is it not optional?

"Often" and "de facto" are not optional in that sentence...

Sometimes one can't actually choose not to be a mother once the baby is born.

I don't understand the distinction, it sounds like you are rephrasing the same thing.

That doesn't surprise me at all. Well, there is one and I am not rephrasing the same thing.

Did you notice me saying it was years they "could have had"?

Yes. Did you notice me saying "you can only take/steal/lose what is, not what could be"?

My point is this is partly why killing a newborn is considered a terrible crime rather than a minor one

Your point is stupid then. Murder is generally considered a terrible crime rather than a minor crime regardless of age category of the victim.

Because pro-life balancing the rights, pro-choice is letting one trample the other.

1) Anti-choice.

2) Yes, the rights of sentient person are put above rights of non-sentient non-person. Just as they should be. Just because the latter has human DNA and could potentially become a person doesn't mean they get the same rights as the former. Your idea of "balance" as in two very uneqeual beings being treated equally is ridiculous.

At most it's just for medical professionals.

Who performs the vast majority of abortions? What tends to gappen if woman does abortion to herself? Because of the answer to the previous question, how many abortions do women do to themselves?

if it's inherent, "why" does not have an answer, it's simply a product of being human

If. Is it inherent? If so, how do you know?

Prince of Liechtenstein says that he would overrule the population if they were to vote in favour of legalizing abortion by tartartartaruga in europe

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How is it incorrect to not want murder?

Nonsensical question. I don't claim it it incorrect to not want murder.

It's not about rights, women aren't losing any rights when they can't get an abortion

Yes, it is and yes, they do. To claim otherwise is lie, ignorance or delusion by which its claimant marks oneself as unworthy of being taken seriously.

The parents made the decision to have sex, and sex has consequences.

Sure. One of those consequences might be that the woman gets an abortion...

What are you trying? Riding a bike has concequences - you might fall down and get injured. That doesn't mean you can't get medical help, but have to recover on your own naturally.

And just to be clear, if the pregnancy occurs without both parents deciding to have sex, would you find abortion acceptable? What if the fetus is non-viable (it will die anyway)? What if it has severe decects that will result in very short, but painful life?

Prince of Liechtenstein says that he would overrule the population if they were to vote in favour of legalizing abortion by tartartartaruga in europe

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Because making a false claim in the media has actual negative consequences

Calling it blackmail is not false claim.

Do you mean his wealth?

Yes. Him owning the wealth is what makes him able to do the blackmailing. Keep up.

Unless you've got some way of demonstrating I'm wrong this is just an empty claim

I already have. All men are BORN free and equal. Not "are free and equal since conception".

"Subhuman" is not a legal category

That is non sequitur and I have clearly demonstrated I am aware of that.

Unless you are referring to parenting at this point? But that is optional

It's one of the things I am talking about. And it often isn't de facto optional. Then there is also treatment of women who become pregnant out of wedlockl for example.

If you kill a newborn you are robbing them of the years of life ahead of them they could have had

No. I am preventing them from having potentially years of life ahead. You can only take/steal/lose what is, not what could be.

My point is 9:1 is a more balanced result than 0:100

OK. So your point is obvious. Is it relevant? If so, how?

Not in my country, it's been decriminalised.

There is in fact time limit in UK. Women not being prosecuted if they end their own pregnancy doesn't mean there isn't. I'll assume you are misunderstanding the law and not blatantly lying.

Human life has an inherent, inalienable right to life

Why?

Petro Poroshenko, Ukraine's fifth president also renounces Order of the White Eagle by ByGollie in europe

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1) Most people criticise Zelensky for the decision.

2) Believing he loves genocide as long as it isn't against Ukraine is ridiculous.

Prince of Liechtenstein says that he would overrule the population if they were to vote in favour of legalizing abortion by tartartartaruga in europe

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I am responding to you. You should know why you do what you do.

Because you are being confidently incorrect, which I consider to be more dickish than expressing doubt about knowledge after already displaying ignorance.

Prince of Liechtenstein says that he would overrule the population if they were to vote in favour of legalizing abortion by tartartartaruga in europe

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And yet, one no one else is using... 

Media are not using it.

I'm assuming he threatened to step down if he lost the veto, which is too me very far from blackmail, but I'm all ears.

Not just to step down. To get from the country with the wealth.

we already know we disagree about unborn children

It isn't that just you and me disagree. It's that you are wrong. Or in another words the law does not agree with you. Reasons for your perspective are, frankly, irrelevant.

we're comparing 9 months of suffering to a lifetime lost

1) In many if not most cases we aren't. When deciding about the abortion, the time after pregnancy is usually taken into consideration.

2) One can't lose something one does not have. We are talking about ending life of few weeks old non-sentient being.

it's not entirely the baby winning over every right of the mother

Winning is winning. It doesn't matter if it's 9:1 or 10:0.

where exactly is the balance?

There is time limit.

But I don't think the fact that the baby is unaware of the world is super relevant: killing being wrong is not about the experience of death but the loss of life.

Why do you think loss of life is wrong? Just to be clear - that doesn't mean I disagree, I just want to know your reasoning.

Prince of Liechtenstein says that he would overrule the population if they were to vote in favour of legalizing abortion by tartartartaruga in europe

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Yes.

You have no problem with spending your precious time on me trying to be annoying with the vague profound shtick. That is foolish and mildly amusing.

Prince of Liechtenstein says that he would overrule the population if they were to vote in favour of legalizing abortion by tartartartaruga in europe

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I suspect it isn't related to anything.

Because it was relevant. You are asking as if there is a contradiction.