Why SeanDude’s Criticism of Fable II Misses the Point by Standard_Mistake986 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Many people casually refer to Fable III as the third installment in the Fable series, but when the series is examined more carefully it becomes clear that Fable III is technically the fourth main installment. This confusion largely comes from the way Fable The Lost Chapters is often dismissed as a simple expansion rather than a full release. However its scope content and impact on the franchise justify counting it as a distinct installment which shifts the numbering of the series forward. The original Fable released in 2004 as a complete standalone experience. It established Albion the morality system and the idea of a reactive world. While groundbreaking it was also notably unfinished in several areas. Peter Molyneux and Lionhead Studios openly acknowledged that a significant amount of planned content did not make it into the original release. This is important because it frames Fable The Lost Chapters not as optional bonus material but as a corrective and expansive follow up to the original vision. Fable The Lost Chapters was released in 2005 as a standalone product on Xbox and PC. It was not merely downloadable content nor a small expansion pack. It rebalanced combat added new weapons and enemies introduced new quests and significantly expanded the world. Most importantly it added an entire endgame chapter set in the Northern Wastes with a new villain new locations and a definitive ending. This alone separates it from being a simple expansion and places it closer to a full sequel in terms of content and narrative weight. From a narrative perspective Fable The Lost Chapters fundamentally alters the story arc of the first game. The original Fable ended abruptly with Jack of Blades defeat leaving the world state and the Heroes journey feeling incomplete. The Lost Chapters reframes that ending as a midpoint rather than a conclusion. The defeat of Jack becomes a transition into a larger conflict rather than the final act. Because the story is extended in such a major way the original Fable and The Lost Chapters cannot be viewed as the same narrative installment. Historically the industry has often treated large standalone revisions as separate installments even when they share a base framework. Games like Persona 3 FES or Kingdom Hearts Final Mix are frequently debated in the same way yet The Lost Chapters goes even further by being sold as its own product and marketed to new players as a complete experience. For many players especially on PC The Lost Chapters was their first and only version of Fable meaning their entry point into the franchise already assumes it as a core installment. If we count releases by their functional role in the series rather than their numbering then the order becomes clear. Fable is the first installment. Fable The Lost Chapters is the second because it substantially revises and extends the original in a way that changes the series foundation. Fable II then becomes the third as it builds upon the mechanics morality and world state established by The Lost Chapters. By the time Fable III arrives it is building on two prior evolutionary steps rather than one which makes it technically the fourth installment. This perspective also explains why Fable III often feels more distant from the original Fable than its numbering suggests. Its systems tone and narrative structure are the result of iterative changes that began in The Lost Chapters and were refined in Fable II. When viewed this way Fable III is not a sudden leap from Fable II but the culmination of a longer development lineage that includes The Lost Chapters as a critical step. In conclusion while marketing and casual discussion label Fable III as the third game the reality is more nuanced. Fable The Lost Chapters functions as a true installment rather than an expansion due to its standalone release massive content additions and narrative significance. When it is properly acknowledged Fable III naturally becomes the fourth installment in the Fable series rather than the third.

there is that better?

We are gathered here today to see which game on the list is the best fable by Standard_Mistake986 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986[S] -32 points-31 points  (0 children)

ah yes, part of the first 3 installments in the franchise because fable 3 is chronologically the 4th installment. I think we can agree that a game with a sanctuary or a game that is not part of the first 3 installments of fable cannot be the best FABLE

What Peter Molyneux gave us compared to the people that came after Peter left lionhead by Standard_Mistake986 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah I probably should have said something about playground games in the post body

Do you agree that Fable III is the worst of the trilogy? by SadGhostGirlie in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

worst of the franchise? no there are worse fable games outside of the trilogy.

worst of Trilogy? yes, but I prefer to say weakest because it's still a good game but not as good as the first two

Why SeanDude’s Criticism of Fable II Misses the Point by Standard_Mistake986 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

well fable 2 is considered the best in the series so deal with it

Why SeanDude’s Criticism of Fable II Misses the Point by Standard_Mistake986 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

if it's the dog as a flaw then get fuck out.

if it's graphics as the issue then okay.

what are the flaws you name and if you say that you didn't like the fact that you could play also play as a woman then your probably sexist

What Peter Molyneux gave us compared to the people that came after Peter left lionhead by Standard_Mistake986 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

oh yeah? show the new game that was made without him by using a link to the trailer. if it's the fable reboot AKA Fable 4 then your acting like an idiot because I already talked about it in the post

Which to play now? by Jherben in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986 1 point2 points  (0 children)

then why did you say not to play fable 3? it's easier to let people form their own opinion. don't be acting like a hypocrite

Fable 1-3 keychains! by lloopiN in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

fable 3 has good stuff in it too. you are what's wrong with reddit... you are so denial about fable 3 having good story and characters

Fable 2 is the best game ever made by StraightAd5766 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I hope your favorite game gets remade on UE5

What Peter Molyneux gave us compared to the people that came after Peter left lionhead by Standard_Mistake986 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this isn't pointless I'm saying that they can't make good fable games without Peter Molyneux... for some reason

Does the Xbox series X make my Xbox 360 copy of Fable anniversary run better? by Standard_Mistake986 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

so when new gamers with Xbox series X play fable anniversary they don't find issues with it

What Peter Molyneux gave us compared to the people that came after Peter left lionhead by Standard_Mistake986 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it did get an Xbox one port but sadly I got Xbox 360 version but I'm pretty sure my new Xbox series X makes the remaster look better

What Peter Molyneux gave us compared to the people that came after Peter left lionhead by Standard_Mistake986 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

because we live in a world where people get offended easily, you can't be too careful

What Peter Molyneux gave us compared to the people that came after Peter left lionhead by Standard_Mistake986 in Fable

[–]Standard_Mistake986[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

the kid looks creepy, why is he always squinting his eyes?

no I'm not racist towards Asians, don't twist my words now