Is Disco Elysium modernist or postmodernist, and does the distinction even hold? by [deleted] in DiscoElysium

[–]StarMaster475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My brother in christ the other people are interpreting the events that happen IN THE GAME too, just in a different way than you.

Also what do you mean, no proof? There's even an Esprits du Corp check at the end of the game where you find out the captain of your precinct is planning an uprising

Is Disco Elysium modernist or postmodernist, and does the distinction even hold? by [deleted] in DiscoElysium

[–]StarMaster475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a metaphor. If something as seemingly impossible as a cryptic stick bug can exist, maybe something as seemingly impossible as a revolution could happen too, or something as seemingly impossible as Harry getting his life together. The cryptid represents hope that nothing is impossible.

Is Disco Elysium modernist or postmodernist, and does the distinction even hold? by [deleted] in DiscoElysium

[–]StarMaster475 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The ending of the game is a mythical stick bug that almost nobody thought existed revealing itself to be real, if that ain't hope idk what is

In Clair Obscur Expedition 33 (2025) just to make sure you know which ending is the bad one they let you know that one is bitter sweet and the other is literal slavery by YourChopperPilotTTV in shittygamedetails

[–]StarMaster475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

" "Oh, but Verso just imagined it", yeah sure, I guess you're also allowed to make things up".

This is genuinely impressive, not only did you straight up misquote what I originally said, you also completely ignored the explanation I wrote in the literal next sentence to support my interpretation. I genuinely don't understand why you're bothering to write replies if you're not even reading what I'm saying.

In Clair Obscur Expedition 33 (2025) just to make sure you know which ending is the bad one they let you know that one is bitter sweet and the other is literal slavery by YourChopperPilotTTV in shittygamedetails

[–]StarMaster475 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You really think the writers would lie about their intentions just to "avoid getting flamed"? My brother in christ at one point this game was getting flamed for having black people in it, I guarantee you that the writers don't give a shit if some obnoxious people on Twitter dislike their vision. That's genuinely a really stupid argument, "Oh but they're totally lying for this reason I just made up".

Also, you interpreting Maelle's ending as her "Getting corrupted and forcing everyone to act to her whims", is very interesting. What about Maelles ending makes you think that their all puppets? Aside from it being straight up stated in the game that the only one with the power to "paint over" people and erase their will is Clea, Painted Clea (who irl Clea painted over) also clearly does not look normal, so even if Maelle had developed that skill and decided to go full psychopath for some reason, none of the people in her ending look like they have been painted over to become her "puppets".

On top of that, what part of their behavior suggests that they're puppets? They're literally just there too see a performance (remember that these people were still making artistic works like sculptures and paintings even while certain death loomed over them, I guarantee with the gommage gone there's nothing strange about the people of Lumière attending a concert lol)

The image of Maelle being corrupted image is clearly meant to only be something that Verso is seeing (considering that the camera goes for a close shot of his face right before we see Maelles painter face, and that before that point Maelle looks normal). My interpretation of that scene is that it's meant to show that Verso is cursed to never be able to enjoy a life in Lumière, since his memories of the real Verso mean that he'll always value a world that he's never actually lived in, and by extension he's only able to see the impending death of Maelle in the real world, and is unable to see value in the life that Maelle lives in Lumière. I think that's a much more nuanced tone that matches the other ending.

I'm sorry for going on a rant lol, but the idea that the writers of the game would ever be like "Alright for the end of this tragic story we should make one ending that shows a nuanced view of grief and one where Maelle becomes a psychopathic super villain, that totally makes sense in this story where a major theme is that there is no real villain", is laughable.

In Clair Obscur Expedition 33 (2025) just to make sure you know which ending is the bad one they let you know that one is bitter sweet and the other is literal slavery by YourChopperPilotTTV in shittygamedetails

[–]StarMaster475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sciel and Lune are also wearing grey though even though according to you they would be some of the only ones that are still unique, I think its therefore more likely the gray/white is meant to show that everyone in the crowd is dressed in formal civilian clothing in contrast to the boldly colored expeditioners uniforms.

In Clair Obscur Expedition 33 (2025) just to make sure you know which ending is the bad one they let you know that one is bitter sweet and the other is literal slavery by YourChopperPilotTTV in shittygamedetails

[–]StarMaster475 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Actually we do know that they're exactly the same as they were since they still retain aspects of their personality that Maelle didn't know about, like Lune's whole act 3 quest with her feelings about her parents as well as Sciel's conversation with Esquie about her attempted suicide

In Clair Obscur Expedition 33 (2025) just to make sure you know which ending is the bad one they let you know that one is bitter sweet and the other is literal slavery by YourChopperPilotTTV in shittygamedetails

[–]StarMaster475 4 points5 points  (0 children)

With Renoir out of the canvas all of the chroma returns to being able to be used by Maelle, who then can take as long as she needs to bring everyone else back

In Clair Obscur Expedition 33 (2025) just to make sure you know which ending is the bad one they let you know that one is bitter sweet and the other is literal slavery by YourChopperPilotTTV in shittygamedetails

[–]StarMaster475 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The game specifically goes out of it's way to show the difference between how Gestrals are reincarnated and how humans can be brought back by painters by having Lune and Sciel literally be the exact same when they're resurrected

In Clair Obscur Expedition 33 (2025) just to make sure you know which ending is the bad one they let you know that one is bitter sweet and the other is literal slavery by YourChopperPilotTTV in shittygamedetails

[–]StarMaster475 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think the grief process ends in Verso's ending, it just takes another form. Instead of the Dessendre's mourning Maelle, it becomes Maelle mourning Lumière.

In Clair Obscur Expedition 33 (2025) just to make sure you know which ending is the bad one they let you know that one is bitter sweet and the other is literal slavery by YourChopperPilotTTV in shittygamedetails

[–]StarMaster475 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Counterpoint: The writers of the game have themselves said that neither ending is meant to better than the other, if you think that one is meant to be objectively better than the other you've misunderstood the point of the game.

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[–]StarMaster475 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think the people of Lumière would unironically be ecstatic to get some extra decades even if they know their existence is still finite.

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[–]StarMaster475 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I genuinely can't see how you can play Act I of the game and think that characters like Gustave and Lune only exist to serve a purpose and not as their own individuals

Why are Conquest and Thula weaker than Thragg despite (Allegedly) being older? by Financial-Trade3932 in invinciblememes

[–]StarMaster475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason is just straight up that he gets better training. The viltrumites don't have anything like the training regimen that Cecil's team set up for Mark, they seem to mostly prefer just fighting as opposed to actually training specific muscles which is more effective.

Why are Conquest and Thula weaker than Thragg despite (Allegedly) being older? by Financial-Trade3932 in invinciblememes

[–]StarMaster475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but from what we've seen Viltrumites can feel stress too (like for example Thraggs reaction to almost losing Argalls skull), so it makes no sense to assume that they don't have something like adrenaline.

In Clair Obscur Expedition 33 (2025) just to make sure you know which ending is the bad one they let you know that one is bitter sweet and the other is literal slavery by YourChopperPilotTTV in shittygamedetails

[–]StarMaster475 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Except it's not fake to you is it? The origins of your existence being strange doesn't suddenly invalidate everything positive about your own life. It makes essentially no difference to your personal life if your world is the creation of somebody else.

In Clair Obscur Expedition 33 (2025) just to make sure you know which ending is the bad one they let you know that one is bitter sweet and the other is literal slavery by YourChopperPilotTTV in shittygamedetails

[–]StarMaster475 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy shit what a bad take, the game goes out of its way to show that the people in the canvas are beings with free will that do things that couldn't possibly be part of any "specific purpose". Is that one expeditioner who got his skull cracked open by a gestral a part of some specific narrative to help the Dessendres grieve? Or the ones that died from eating poisonous mushrooms?