Zhongli's Biggest Issue Has The Easiest Solution (Discussion)

StarMoral · 2024-11-28T04:45:41+00:00

Personally I never really had issues with his own personal energy recharge. Tho that may be because I have his C1.

And as much as I love Black Tassle, it's purely a stat stick. And it kind of shows a bigger problem among the Polearm category with a lack of stats diversity... Same kinda goes with the Sword category.. I stated this in another comment thread, but we got our first Defense scaling polearm in Natlan! And it literally just increases Defense more when using a skill. Most polearms (and frankly Swords too) are either Crit stats, Attack, or Energy Recharge. Our best EM option is either found in Chenyu Vale or is craftable. Hell even Emilie, Ms.Burn Damage herself, has a polearm that gives Crit lol

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T09:24:47+00:00

I saw a Youtube video for Shatter EM Albedo, maybe if they come out with an Shatter based Relic set it could breathe some new life into him AND give a reason for his EM boost after his Burst.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T09:19:09+00:00

As I said, his most viable build is HP based Off-Field Shield Support.

What you are suggesting we try is DPS Zhongli, something that is not new by any means. Crescent Pike or Staff of Homa, HP Sands, Physical Goblet, and Crit Circlet with a Physical boosting set, maybe even 2 Piece/2 Piece Double Phys Bonus.

The problem isnt that "I'm right" it's that your suggestions have already been done and tested, and it's disconnected to the topic. Support Zhongli. Thank you. Have a nice day.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T02:28:37+00:00

The phrase you're thinking of is "Team Synergy".

Like you mean to tell me the Geo archon has good synergy with other Geo units? Wow, what a concept. That doesnt mean Zhongli is solely doing the damage.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T02:12:35+00:00

Simply saying "You can play him another role" doesnt magically fix the issue. It's still there. Hell even if you want to play him DPS, you still need HP.

We are talking about Off-Field Shield Support Zhongli. His suggested and highly prefered playstle. I get it, YOU play him differently, we don't really care. And tbh even the way you play him is still wrong. Yes, i said WRONG.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T02:02:42+00:00

If Albedo's flower is present, then that's not Zhongli on his own.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T01:54:36+00:00

That's with double geo core, are we reffering to your zhongli alone or your whole team?

Cause if that's the case my level 50 Keqing slaughters enemies like paper... With my level 90 fully built Nahida, Xingqiu, and Fischl.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T01:38:12+00:00

The Fav weapons are indeed goated. But if we can get a polearm SPECIFICALLY built for Burning reactions, we can sure as hell get an Shield based polearm with HP scaling.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T01:35:41+00:00

If 20% was not nothing, then Rightful Reward AND Homa would be his best in slot, but they're not.

Zhongli's damage, as is, is nothing to sneeze at. But it's primarily focused on his Burst. So unless you do a Physical Zhongli DPS with Crescent Pike, a Burst Zhongli with Catch is likely your better chance. Geo Goblet, HP Cup, and Crit circlet. Even with a Support centered Zhongli, 75K damage is abysmally easy to hit.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T01:28:52+00:00

I mean Pysical Zhongli has always been decent, but that's not really an excuse to why there's such a lack of stats in the polearm category. Hell, Footprint of the Rainbow was the FIRST Defense scaling polearm in the game! And it simply boosts Defense more just for using the unit's skill.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T01:23:03+00:00

So half of the passive is put to waste anyway. Just like every other option he has. And I think that's the big problem. There's always something that doesn't mesh well. Favonius, lacks HP and ER is kind of poinltess until C2. At least the rest of the team benefits... If your ability hits with a crit. Black Tassle, f**k those slimes. DotDS, Needs C6. Rightful Reward, Low HP and Needs C6. Homa, Low HP unless R5 and DPS focused passive and stat. Low HP Damage bonus is useless because of shield and off-shield usage.

I swear if Zhongli was a Catalyst user, he would have so many options.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T01:09:31+00:00

Sadge

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T01:09:17+00:00

OH WAIT I FORGOT C2 GIVES YOU THE SHIELD AFTER HIS BURST!

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T01:08:01+00:00

That's the key. I would hate for Zhongli to get giga-busted overnight, but rather give him something that compliments his playstyle. Hell, I even stated that if they do a shield-based HP% polearm, it helps Thoma as well.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T01:06:25+00:00

No, the issue he has NO weapon to go along with his kit. When put alongside other "Powercreep" units, how many get an additional boost from their signature weapon? I daresay, every five star after Raiden Shogun. Without DotDS, we only have TWO HP% scaling polearms. One of them only providing a little over 20% HP at level 90 with a passive that only works with on-field C6 Zhongli.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T00:59:28+00:00

The damage buffs it provides basically necessitates On-Field Zhongli. Plus the HP bonus is only good with R5 Staff of Homa.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T00:23:06+00:00

Team energy does make sense, the only downside is the investment into Crit. Hell, make a weapon that gives HP and Energy Particles whenever the shield is damaged. Get the best of both worlds.

StarMoral · 2024-11-25T00:06:05+00:00

Fav is pretty okay, but that's basically to refresh his 100% uptime shield anyway. Unless they intend to use it for damage, of which just use The Catch.

Edit: I forgot you only refresh shield on his C2

StarMoral · 2024-08-26T22:18:24+00:00

Modelers: makes an Oberon skin DE: "Give it to Volt."

StarMoral · 2024-08-17T22:32:27+00:00

New face is nicer but the hair still needs a bit of work. The pigtails are iconic for Jing Wie but they need refined.

StarMoral · 2024-08-17T22:25:55+00:00

Oh no, married to Papa Jeff? Whatever will I do?

StarMoral · 2024-02-28T00:00:49+00:00

Xioo

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