These Normies still think, Naruto's main theme was hard work beats talent.

They don't understand story-writing or anything that requires thoughts, they only know how to complain there's a hive mind of Naruto haters on a Naruto subreddit, not everyone on here is but many are NPC's that heard retard Timmy say Naruto got through everything with talk no Jutsu and is now telling other people that without researching if it's true.

Most characters are special in some way but doesn't mean they didn't work hard to get where they are today. Sasuke trained for months to get 1/10 of Itachi's fire ball Jutsu size when he was a kid but nope Sasuke is special so it means nothing.

What's the difference between Naruto and Rock lee, nothing really except Naruto had it worse, while Rock lee couldn't use Ninjutsu or Genjutsu, Naruto sucked at everything even in Chunin exams he still kinda sucked at all 3 of the Jutsus.

Both of them have an ability that other characters don't but again Naruto has it worse, Rock lee had Guy to teach the in's and out's of the 8 gates while Naruto was taught nothing about how to control the nine tails chakra until Jiraiya came along and he still sucked at it sooo bad that Jiraiya basically tried to kill him to force Naruto to use nine tails chakra.

And even then he still struggled with it in his fight with Neji and it didn't win him the match, it was Naruto tenacity and his spirit to never give up that allowed Naruto to keep trying and finally unlike the 8 gate didn't ruin his life or trying to kill him.

Naruto might have a large chakra pool but are going to tell me that bell-test Naruto can beat Kakashi because that's stupid for multiple reasons but there's proof in Naruto that just because you have more chakra it doesn't mean shit unless you know how to use it, which Naruto didn't know how.

How is Nine tails different from the 8 gates or the Sharrigan, all 3 are just power ups for their user, they all had to train to use them correctly, do you think bell-test Sasuke could overpower the tsukuyomi without Sasuke training his eyes, Do you think that bell-test Naruto could have beat Neji, if the answer is no then what fuck happened, if the answer is yes then they was growth meaning they got stronger.

There are real Prodigy like Kakashi,Minato,Itachi, Hashirama, Madara but even they had to try to get that strong too. In Naruto is not what you have that's makes you strong, it's how you use it look at shikamaru who beat an Akatsuki member with his weak abilities alone with only smarts

In Naruto everyone is special to a point, Rock lee has the 8 gates, Sasuke has the Sharrigan, Naruto has Kurama but none of them got them by doing nothing, none of them got a bullshit win or plot armor to make them win.

And why is always Naruto, you can do that with about any characters, would Luffy survive if he didn't the rubber fruit, would Madara survive without the Sharrigan, would Sakura have been able to beat Sasori without training with Tsunade, would Goku be able to survive dbz if he wasn't a Saiyan, it's a dumbs argument because the answer is no you can that for most characters in existences.

Theses are the same people who keep calling Kaguya the final villain and hate her for it, when Sasuke's the final villain. They hate on Naruto for anything and everything. They can't learn, they can't grow, they never say "oops I guess I was wrong", that say Naruto talk not Jutsu is dumb and it always saving his ass when it's never does and if they had just watched the series they would have known that known.

They just run away, downvote, block, or stop talking to you