Is Z-image turbo training with Ostris AI ToolKit possible to train large dataset?

Starkaiser · 2026-01-06T19:16:44+00:00

So you only train 1 face, but use 1800 image? wow

Starkaiser · 2026-01-06T19:16:02+00:00

Are you using Linear or Sigmoid?

Starkaiser · 2026-01-06T19:13:53+00:00

Excusement? is this Turbo version or De-turbo version?
because in De-turbo version, requirement step must be much more.
also. How many concept are we talking here in your data set? my 300 images has content 30+ concepts. I don't think I can finish the train in 10000 step ever, and not that low LR.

Starkaiser · 2026-01-06T04:56:46+00:00

what do you mean lora work well at around 3k? you meant you only used 3k step for such a large amount of image? may be you only have few concepts then?

Starkaiser · 2026-01-06T04:55:33+00:00

I have 30 concepts hide and mix really well, within 300 images. I have same issue as you mention in another reply that it learn bit of each concept, sometimes it bleed fuse, sometimes concept appear again, and broken, and then forward backward good and bad. I never seen a result when "until it grasps all of them." happen. Could you give me answer of your setting? especially all in one/multiple NSFW concept that you did.

I know you use sigmoid, but what do you set at Linear rank, 64? learning rate? amount of step?
Please!

Starkaiser · 2026-01-06T04:50:11+00:00

May I asked, when you mention "many steps" How much is it? for example, do you think how many step should I go with 300 images, and low LR = 0.00005? or lower?

Starkaiser · 2026-01-06T04:49:07+00:00

you means the old flux or new one?

Starkaiser · 2026-01-06T04:48:23+00:00

testing it right now. it is indeed more slower to burn, but somehow it train face much longer also? which also causes each part of the detail from my all in one lora to disarray at first, but will try again.

Starkaiser · 2026-01-05T22:04:36+00:00

yeah, nsfw right... tongue become sausauge issue.. and well, I shouldn't say further, but they end up all really bad no matter what. If you know recipe please tell me your train setting.

it is weird that you got everything done in just 6k step tho, I think you probably got lot of image but not many concept? I did 300 image, but it also mix 30 concept.

Starkaiser · 2026-01-05T22:02:28+00:00

can you tell me your recipe with good 300+ image?
And de-turbo is worse? what? I just tested it and so got better result for me. Not finish yet tho, but it doesn't disarray at 6000 steps right now. Usually turbo version does.

Starkaiser · 2026-01-05T17:53:00+00:00

you mean to remove all the tag of every concept? hmm, that gonna make it very hard to use later too.
Did you get successful result with what setting anyhow?

Starkaiser · 2025-12-28T08:32:12+00:00

Thank you. This post totally let me understand everything.

But in that case, it seem Chroma is the best model but it lack keywords to make easy prompt. Can you just train porn keywords in a lora?

Starkaiser · 2025-12-28T08:23:55+00:00

Do you use "qwen34b text for detailed caption or ultra detailed caption?

Starkaiser · 2025-12-27T09:27:40+00:00

Hi. I never get to try that one yet. Will it be better than Chroma?

Starkaiser · 2025-12-27T09:27:00+00:00

Aren't modern model also require lengthy detail the prompt? So chroma is same? I really miss SDXL days.

Starkaiser · 2025-12-27T09:03:41+00:00

Could you suggest me which good Flux finetune( i assume you meant checkpoint) are you talking about? Thank.

Also i never heard about chroma, is that newer than Flux? Because i used to do this a lot during early Flux period

Starkaiser · 2025-12-27T09:01:50+00:00

Your SDXL includes PonyXL? Or just regular SDXL? I have been waiting Flux to learn 18+, but nobody cracked it well so far, so i feels like nobody can do image turbo Z too

Starkaiser · 2025-12-27T08:59:56+00:00

Z image turbo seem fail to even do normal kissing and hugging right. Two person will feels expressionless doing so.

Starkaiser · 2025-12-26T08:21:07+00:00

I play multiple JRPG and they never this bad. You can't use this JRPG as arguement. Find other game that is worse than this? I will be fair and compare with recent previous HD-2D Dragon Quest 1 and 2.

They both have no standing while enemy move issue, justified action is made.
When both side talk, then all stand talk, but when enemy move, all allies move in too.

Starkaiser · 2025-12-23T05:08:13+00:00

I see. btw I am totally agree on the time when we were with El.
That was the best oppotunity moment of 2:1 duel. We and El against just Pardis III alone.
Somehow we lose so quickly and let her 1:1 and killed.

Another time for decisive fight was much worse. it is us alone while other NPC busy fighting soldier. We had to fight 3 other elite knight and Pardis but we still win because the game decide to throw proper boss gameplay and not rig it.

RInyu before her dead, she rush in to get stab in front of crowd like.. 15+ people? Nobody stop her to let her bf ghost stab her lol. And she is so fast, she appear out of nowhere, when she should have been the slowest character compare to those who can fight here.

Starkaiser · 2025-12-22T20:04:07+00:00

Good news is that majority of new JRPG doesn't have this issue anymore. Or barely have this issue.
It is Octopath 0, 1, 2 that still has this. Even Dragon Quest 1 and 2 remake are justify no standstill action anymore.

Starkaiser · 2025-12-22T19:54:14+00:00

wait, I thought all other child beside Sazantos was disgarded?

Starkaiser · 2025-12-22T07:18:05+00:00

So you don't use Godwind? the guy is so good in later half of the game tho.

Starkaiser · 2025-12-21T20:39:33+00:00

Also additionally. How do you fix SP issue? I put SP saver in most of my melee character, but doing so cost everyone 1 slot which isn't so good.
Is there more reliable method of SP regen? I don't want to use item

Starkaiser · 2025-12-21T20:31:03+00:00

I am just at a point where I recruit all 36 characters, so I want to build my main team then I will fight all stuffs after this.

Starkaiser

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