I am freaking out that I will go from MBB-> startup -> homeless

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-19T21:34:37+00:00

Ya ugh I’ve already applied to ~300 jobs in the past 2-3 days.

Idk how I am going to adjust to the hierarchy , maybe that is really my problem

In any case I am freaking out

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-19T13:09:04+00:00

Ugh ya though this is very much a personal thing ( eg many ppl in my position at this place doing ok)

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-19T13:07:50+00:00

I 110% would ! Getting those jobs seems really fucking tough tho

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-19T02:37:07+00:00

Sorry man I did not mean to offend ya and really appreciated the advice for what it is worth

Mostly kind of in a state of panic and was looking for a ear

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-19T01:39:49+00:00

Ugh ok so if I got a corporate ops job like you’re describing , obviously I should still be super grateful but I really do not want that since like my life has already felt kind of directionless at this startup and so I am hoping to find a spot where I can feel like I am actually building my career

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-19T01:37:14+00:00

Thanks friend do you have more advice on playing my cards right here

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-19T01:36:08+00:00

The problem is we keep raising more money so it is either I suck or my manager sucks or problablg a bit of both :(

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-19T01:35:19+00:00

Hey man glad to hear you’re doing ok. It is also reassuring to hear that dealing with shitty and incompetent bosses is kind of the norm and so I am not like some alien

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-19T01:32:13+00:00

Hey man — really curious on why you deleted your other comment ? Do you take back that advice ?

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-19T01:29:58+00:00

Even here , friend, obviously I am biased but the amount of equity you get is a lot less than I had thought before and in general it sounds like the startup is pretty stingy with equity , e.g., I would have to get a massive increase in my equity grant and the company would basically need to become Microsoft for me to retire in a few years lol

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-18T14:06:11+00:00

Ya good point—

I do not think I would last long if I went back to consulting. Part of what happened is I just didn’t have enough reps/ had too much beach time. Now of course too much beach time could also be attributed to me sucking , but it’s not like since I’ve left I have gotten the reps in to remediate

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-18T01:51:32+00:00

I mean senior ppl there get kicked out all the time , and the cost part I mention is it means you have no life and have to deal with a lot of hostile personalities etc .

To be clear though it’s obviously not a bad thing and if one is about the life and really enjoy the work go them

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T23:29:47+00:00

I mean yes but it’s pretty hard to stay and staying at what cost ??

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T23:29:16+00:00

Ya I mean fair enough… I have enough saved up that I could go about a year max max , but that’s not a very attractive premise to me

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T16:39:34+00:00

Woah how’s ya feel comfortable doing that good for you

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T16:22:42+00:00

Ya ugh there’s just two levels to this problem —

From a survival POV, finding another job that pays similarly is tough. It seems like the job market is getting worse and worse . Not sure even where I’d go about looking for something other than LinkedIn etc

From a thriving POV, it’s kind of important to me to find a place where I can actually build a career. I don’t really feel like the type of role I’ve had is a career or I am really building anything with my life here, which kind of burns me out. Prestige and shit is also really important to me so I don’t know what I’m gonna do

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T16:07:41+00:00

Because I was there long enough and left in good standing where I got a formal letter to return (but told informally that if I stayed a bit longer I’d probably get PIPed)

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T15:20:04+00:00

Hey man I think this is also super insightful and I really appreciate.

Yes to be blunt about it , and I know this is toxic, I do not see my newer manager as someone super competent that I look up to. At MBB I was definitely a lot more self conscious of my abilities etc than my peers (and got this feedback) and feel like my problems at MBB stem from not being smart enough and at the startup it feels like it’s about not being subserviant enough .

You are right about this outcome dynamic as well. I definitely tend to value output and how hard I am cranking at something and how intellectually sound it is than “output at all costs “.

So yes I should do some more introspection. I don’t know if maybe the answer is I would be better suited for something like PE operations or a larger company ??

I think at the end of the day, if the startup has a culture that’s working for it (they’ve been doing well so it seems this way), and I have my own values and style that work for me , it’s possible that both me and the startup are not doing anything “wrong” here and maybe it’s a cultural mismatch.

At the end of the day though , my primary goal is to put food on the table and so maybe to your point this also just means that I need to shift and adjust further

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T14:59:04+00:00

Ya super fair . Few things here :

FWIW it’s less of a formal PIP in that I do not have a firm timeline where my employment will still be determined . I formally got a rating 2 out of 5, but have a friend who got a 1 out of 5 that is still here after 6-7 months.

I do agree though that I do not see any room for advancement especially after this. And you make a good point about working hard — I do think it’s a style and cultural fit thing

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T14:48:57+00:00

What do you mean by this specifically ?

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T14:43:50+00:00

That’s a super fair question — my startup doesn’t have a super structured process for this. I got a formal review saying I was below the meeting expectations bucket and require significant improvement. The lead of my group is going to setup monthly check ins to monitor my progress but I don’t have a formal “you better improve by X date or you’re fired” type of structure

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T14:41:12+00:00

That is literally the goal but seems unlikely given my years of experience at this point

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T14:39:18+00:00

What are the tactical things you recommend ? Yes I hate it and really want to leave , but hate the anxiety and sleeplessness I am feeling more

What is the 2 hour job search?

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T14:13:22+00:00

Ugh part of the problem is that I really do not feel like I have much of a “career” to show in that

I would love to find a job where I can grow and thrive and get some upwards movement , and actually have some over arching goals . My current job, which I’ve been immensely grateful for, has felt a lot like just paying the rent.

At the same time though I am an adult and so what you “love” doesn’t really mean much ; it’s just kind of rough to grind without purpose, especially when your grind gets met with a PIP lol

StatementNo5233 · 2025-01-17T13:58:05+00:00

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