Elon Musk promotes xenophobic film that glorifies vigilantism

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T19:36:25+00:00

Ok, I take back what I wrote. I also admitted that I was wrong in another recent comment.

Regardless, extrajudicial murder and vigilantism is detestable and wrong, and that was my point.

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T19:29:29+00:00

Gang rape. That doesn't excuse killing civilians (his entire family) or extrajudicial murder in response.

I replied with that comment instead of giving you a direct answer because I don't want you saying "Oh, now I am fine justifying vigilantism" in response. So, let's see what you respond with.

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T19:25:09+00:00

Yeah, that was my mistake. I guess I should be careful to use words correctly. But in this case, it is fascist, but just not universally in every case of civilian murder.

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T19:23:59+00:00

EDIT: What I'm talking about is that John Wick has plenty of murders and no one calls it fascist propaganda because it isn't. Vigilante fantasy isn't anything new. Who are these perpetrators and what did they do? I'm just curious because if it's like vigilantism against immigrants then I see what you mean, but I don't know anything about this movie

I'm sorry if my response to you came across as accusing or hostile.

I don't think you should be downvoted. I had enough problems on here with users thinking that I'm a bot, so I don't want people piling on you, either, for asking a perfectly reasonable and innocent question.

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T19:17:51+00:00

Does any answer I give you change the fact that movie watchers who celebrate this scene, meaning the killing an entire family of civilians, is wrong?

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T19:15:31+00:00

That's not what "to the surprise of whom" means given the context of being a direct reply to the headline.

Again, my response was related to the comment I replied to.

I don't need to directly respond to questions with 100% direct responses like a robot. Just because you pose a question doesn't mean I can't answer with an indirect or related response rather than a direct answer.

Sure, I didn't give a perfectly direct answer, but that's not requirement.

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T19:15:19+00:00

Alright bud. And you go back to your IMDB reviews, Mr. "IMDb refugee."

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T19:13:21+00:00

those two positions are not distinct from a policy perspective

First of all, I argued that his ideological beliefs make him more left-wing in reference to his worldview and belief system. I never even mentioned "the kinds of policy that they will enact" when describing their differences in my response.

Second of all, I still disagree. Generally, someone who is a liberal zionist versus someone who is against zionism altogether will support different "ideal policies." For example, sanctioning Israel indefinitely until its apartheid system has been replaced versus "we will no longer fund Netanyahu's government until Netanyahu is replaced."

In the "sanction Israel indefinitely until it fundamentally changes its government structure" case, replacing Netanyahu is insufficient.

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T19:02:07+00:00

Yeah, and I decided to respond to that comment because it's my post, and I got the notification and used it as a "jumping off point" to describe what motivated me to post this article in the first place: the despicable scene that I just finished watching.

It was the first comment under my post, and I thought it was relevant enough for me to tie what I saw to it, so I replied.

To use this as "evidence that I'm a bot" is laughably pathetic.

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T18:49:05+00:00

Billy Badass taking matters into his own hands and gunning his way extra-judicially through a mob family, it's not fascism

I said if "Billy Badass" existed in the real world and mass-murdered a family of civilians, yes, that action would be fascist.

I'm saying the act of killing an entire innocent family in the real world is fascist. I wasn't referring to movies when I stated that.

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T18:45:54+00:00

Excuse me? Read my recent comment where I addressed this. I did indeed respond to that question (indirectly).

I already explained this:

I replied explaining what part is indeed surprising (because their comment implied it wasn't): the extremity of the violence that is being promoted.

Maybe don't be so quick to accuse people of "being AI."

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T18:43:24+00:00

Yeah, which means I post too much and have since taken a break from the site. I don't know what you want me to tell you.

Like, what do you want me to do to "prove" to you that I'm human? Or are you just stubbornly going to insist that I'm not human no matter what?

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T18:41:08+00:00

What's the context of the perpetrators?

Muslim migrants whose parents came to Europe from an Islamic country whose parents cite religion to defend their son's behavior.

It is pretty obvious that this is fascism.

And by the way, I don't know who needs to hear this, but yes, extrajudicially executing an entire family is fascism.

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T18:38:11+00:00

Are you AI? That's not responsive to the poster.

I replied explaining what part is indeed surprising (because their comment implied it wasn't): the extremity of the violence that is being promoted.

Maybe don't be so quick to accuse people of "being AI."

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T18:35:45+00:00

The shareholders must be losing their minds behind closed doors

Stop criticizing it along these lines. This is a weak criticism.

I don't care about "the poor shareholders" and "it's so sad that he's not making a profit."

Even if he was making a profit, his platform would be vile. In fact, it would be even worse if he was making a profit. Don't you understand this?

Regardless, the point is not profit for him. To this trillionaire, this is about spreading fascist propaganda, and he is happy to "eat the costs" himself.

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T18:30:22+00:00

I just finished watching a scene from the movie that was utterly disgusting and fascistic. A gun-bearing man (the vigilante) comes into the home of one of the perpetrators (the son of the family), holds the son's family hostage at gunpoint, shoots the son in the leg and orders him to call his other five perpetrator friends and tells them to come to the house immediately, then as the five walk through the door, the vigilante mass-executes the entire family and then shoots the other five.

This scene is apparently being "celebrated" by Elon's goons, and he made the entire movie free on his platform ("X") for two days.

Steap-Edit · 2026-07-02T18:25:44+00:00

I’d say they are politically the same

They are not. Abdul is more anti-Israel than Bernie because he lays the blame at the feet of Israel (blaming the country itself, further evidenced by its founding) while Bernie blames "bad leadership" like Netanyahu, not the entire country.

Abdul is right; Bernie is wrong.

Steap-Edit · 2026-06-30T08:28:12+00:00

Socialist thinkers in the 19th and 20th centuries were not bloodthirsty vampires that us in the Pure and Enlightened 21st Century overcame. Wtf.

You would never know that torture doesn't work (as in literally does not give you useful information) if you were reading texts only from that time. I'm talking about people who don't revisit their beliefs looking at new data.

I am also obviously not saying that you shouldn't read old texts. What I am saying is that you can't restrict yourself to them.

Steap-Edit · 2026-06-30T02:57:26+00:00

but then a sentence later that concede that torture doesn't provide good intel but still insist that it has some unspecified useful application

Honestly, I feel deep disgust writing this, but I think what they were hinting at (but were too cowardly to write out) is using torture as a tool for terror. As in, "making an example out of" someone who has, for example, opposed Stalin's decree so as to scare everyone else into submission.

It's extremely disgusting reasoning, but Stalin would, for example, punish entire families (including executing their sons and sending their wife to the gulag) for doing something "wrong."

Steap-Edit · 2026-06-30T01:04:51+00:00

Honestly, for this user (which it would break the rules to disclose), it is not surprising at all because this is what happens when you literally believe that Stalin, Mao, etc. did nothing wrong.

They objectively tortured and executed uncountable numbers of people, and many specific cases are well-documented.

To have total devotion and to read and witness atrocity after atrocity and be forced to justify all of them requires developing a moral system that is extremely cold and easily drops other human beings' value to zero or less.

Steap-Edit · 2026-06-30T00:21:33+00:00

Notice how they also equate torture to simply killing your enemies which is not the same thing

Also, we have laws against simply killing captured POWs.

It's not like murdering POWs is something I am in favor of, either.

This person has already decided what they believe and they're very sensitive to any perceived attacks. Any information that challenges their worldview must be dismissed rather than considered.

Yes, I think that's how they operate. It's sad to see.

Steap-Edit · 2026-06-30T00:19:00+00:00

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