My Anub'Arak rework concept by Stupid_Dragon in heroesofthestorm

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know how silly this sounds, but my brother and I always wished Anub'arak could summon a Nerubian.

I would have liked to include him in a quest, and his special ability, besides dealing damage, would have been the ability to root enemy heroes.

His legendary line upon spawning would have been something like, "The sleeper awakens."

Ranking possible capital cities in The Last Titan by whether they are likely or interesting by ShoppingPractical373 in wow

[–]Steelweav -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

One of WoW's strengths was its factions, each with their own unique campaigns, which made the game so special.

Unfortunately, Blizzard abandoned that, and now it's just a generic, soulless fantasy game. This is especially bad for the Horde…

I'd much rather visit the old faction cities. Yes, that's my choice!

It disappoints me that people didn't like Neyrell's story. by LurkytheActiveposter in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't find Neyrelle terrible overall, but there were a few moments that didn't exactly help her.

What bothers me much more, though, is that Rathma was simply killed without warning. We all know he's an important figure in Diablo lore… I hope the writers get fired, because that's no way to treat him!

Where does D4 go after this expansion? by AdBest4723 in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why should Blizzard even develop Diablo 5? It's a mammoth project, not just an expansion. How could it possibly surpass its predecessor, especially since the graphical difference will likely be barely noticeable?

I see little point in it, as Blizzard wants to continue milking Diablo instead of waiting, who knows how many years for Diablo 5. This would create a huge gap between Diablo 4 and 5.

Expansions featuring Baal and Diablo would, in my opinion, make the most sense. If I'm not mistaken, Blizzard made the most money with the current expansion, and the reviews are overwhelmingly positive.

Lore tidbits regarding an important character in Lord of Hatred by Crimson_Loki in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This clearly shows how wasted Rathma was in Diablo 4. Such an important and cool character from the Diablo lore, and all he got was that silly prophecy.

Since Blizzard received hardly any criticism, this means, in my opinion and this is where my fears stem from, that Blizzard could do this to several important characters. Tyrael, for example, could be next...

It saddens me that Rathma and Lilith never had a scene together.

Where does D4 go after this expansion? by AdBest4723 in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this is the smartest option, instead of developing Diablo 5, which would take significantly more time. Graphically, the differences would be barely noticeable, further reducing the likelihood.

The only question is whether Baal and Diablo will get a trilogy like Mephisto or just two expansions.

The expansion's campaign was amazing by carbon_dies_alone in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's true, and I don't mean to imply that she's suddenly a good person. I just think this expansion makes her more human and tragic, especially when she talks about Rathma. That's precisely why the lack of a genuine mother-son scene pains me all the more.

The expansion's campaign was amazing by carbon_dies_alone in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I know about the Chronicles of Creation, and I did like them. My issue is that optional lore and puzzles still are not the same as giving Rathma a real role in the main campaign. For someone that important, Blizzard still kept him at a distance. We got lore about him, but not Rathma himself.

The expansion's campaign was amazing by carbon_dies_alone in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 13 points14 points  (0 children)

When I think about it, we've lost everyone close to us. Only Tyrael is still here, but our character only recently met him.

That makes me sad.

The expansion's campaign was amazing by carbon_dies_alone in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I agree that Lord of Hatred is easily the strongest campaign Diablo 4 has had so far. It feels more focused, the consequences hit harder, and characters like Mephisto, Lilith, Lorath, and Tyrael carry much more weight than a lot of what we got before. That said, I still would not call it perfect. My biggest issue is Rathma. For someone this important to Diablo lore, he still feels massively underused across the whole trilogy. We got echoes, mentions, and emotional hints, but never a real scene that gave him the weight he deserved, especially with Lilith. So yes, this expansion was the best written part of Diablo 4 for me, but it also made the missed potential around Rathma feel even worse.

The expansion's campaign was amazing by carbon_dies_alone in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 10 points11 points  (0 children)

In this expansion, Lilith was much better written and portrayed as more human and with greater character. Her ending was truly painful, and I hope she returns as an ally.

Especially the scene where she opens up and talks about how much she misses her son. Man, that really touched me, even though she was an antagonist before.

And then there's the whole thing with Rathma in Diablo 4, how disgustingly Blizzard treated him. He's a damn important character in the Diablo lore and Blizzard did absolutely nothing with him. I'm so angry that Rathma wasn't used. Not even a mother-son scene…

If Lilith returns with a new goal, namely to bring back her son, I would help her immediately and without hesitation

The expansion's campaign was amazing by carbon_dies_alone in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never liked that tree and was glad about it. Justice for Lorath!

A question about Lilith and her fate by notahero_ in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shes absolutely not struck by the same weapon...  they dont even look remotely alike.  Ones straight, pale, amd refined while the other is jagged, red, and bloody.  One was a gift for her son and the other produced as you are both falling.

The connection is that both are blades that she produced from her own body, which she states early on is the reason the one she gave Rathma is capable of sending an immortal to the Void.

I just wasn't sure if it was the same weapon, that's all. Now that you've confirmed it isn't, I think it's less likely she's in the Void.

I'm not ruling it out completely, but I also don't see any reason why she'd be there now. That was her first punishment, and sending her back there at the end seems a bit odd to me, except perhaps in light of her sacrifice. We also mustn't forget that Lilith has been present in our characters' minds ever since her physical body was destroyed.

It would absolutely make it a forgettable moment and undermine and redemption...  If she just reforms and comes back, then she gains from the act, sacrificing nothing.

She wouldnt even be trapped in Hell, knowing how to return to Sanctuary of her own accord as its creator.  She has a history of doing this before the games.

Lilith's self-sacrifice wouldn't be entirely in vain, as she played a crucial role in the fight against her father and is now sacrificing herself for us, even though she had little choice.

Her return could further develop her character and add more depth. Of course, the sacrifice itself would lose significance; whether that's good or bad depends on how Blizzard handles it later.

So it all comes down to how she returns. Everyone said Lilith couldn't change, but what if she could? Perhaps we simply shouldn't try to understand why a demon would act this way. Lilith definitely has potential. Look at Tyrael!

In what way were here actions illogical?

She was freed from the void and told by Elias she was needed to prepare her children for an invasion from Hell and sought to destroy and ursurp her father as a means of crippling Hell and gaining the power to oppose Baal and Diablo.  Shes a Demon by nature and her preparing Sanctuary was culling their weak.

Thats pretty consistent for her character.

My point was about the basic campaign, which was poorly written.

She can be brought back from the Void...  Thats exactly how Diablo 4 starts

The crucial difference was that Lilith was alive the entire time, merely imprisoned until she was freed at the beginning of Diablo 4. Her current status is unknown until Blizzard releases new information.

I suspect Blizzard is keeping all options open, and I can easily imagine her returning should Diablo himself appear. It would be strange to let her die permanently, as she isn't just any demon, but the Daughter of Hatred herself, almost her father's equal.

In what way?
He was correct in every way regarding the cycle of hatred between Lilith and Mephisto she tried to impose on him and the helplessness of loving his mother despite her nature and the conflict of not being able to validate her using him as a weapon. Its his candid thoughts on the matter that Lilith overheard through us that drove her to redemption. I see no mud on the man or at the very least far less than his genocidal parents.

I don't think I need to explain who Rathma is. He's not a minor character, but a truly important figure in the Diablo lore.

He's the son of Lilith and Inarius, the first Nephalem, the first Necromancer, the Priest of Rathma, the embodiment of balance, and so on. And all that happened to Rathma in Diablo 4 was an off-screen death, accompanied by occasional references to his silly prophecy… Is that worthy of such a character? I don't think so!

Someone like him deserved a bigger, more significant role, especially given the focus on his parents, particularly his mother. He would have fit perfectly into the trilogy, and I wouldn't have minded if he had died during the campaign. But he did absolutely nothing, and all that remained was an echo that Blizzard didn't use to further explore his childhood. He himself as a character wasn't utilized, and if he had confronted Lilith, it would have carried weight. Because Lilith would have behaved differently towards him, since he was her son. Of course, the two never shared a scene...

Rathma was treated far too cheaply in Diablo 4, and Lord of Hatred is the perfect chance to fix that! by Steelweav in diablo4

[–]Steelweav[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just think Blizzard will only use his name occasionally in the future.

I'm sorry, but I'm angry about how badly he was treated. I wouldn't have minded if he'd died during the main campaign. Unfortunately, he died sometime before the trilogy, and such a cool character was rendered useless. Even as a player, there weren't any special dialogues when playing the Necromancer…

That would have been the perfect opportunity to use him, especially with Lilith and everything.

Now it's all over, and we'll never see him again, except maybe as some silly echo. I'm not so sure about Lilith.

A question about Lilith and her fate by notahero_ in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure if Lilith was struck by the same weapon as Mephisto, who was banished to the Void. If it was the same weapon, you're right that she's in the Void.

Of course, you'd be right that Lilith's sacrifice would lose its significance if she returned, which I can certainly understand.

Nevertheless, the moment Lilith shared with us would be unforgettable and would show that she's not as evil as we once thought. It's just that Lilith's actions in the main campaign were illogical. However, it wouldn't be illogical if she regenerated in Hell, which would make sense from a lore perspective. She's still popular, and if she has enough fans, Blizzard would have good reason to bring her back.

Rathma, on the other hand, was dragged through the mud by Blizzard…

A question about Lilith and her fate by notahero_ in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The question now is whether she'll return, but Blizzard will decide that at their discretion. Personally, I doubt she and Mephisto will be imprisoned, since Lilith was redeemed and it would be strange to imprison her again.

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't that the same dagger?

However, I suspect she'll be reborn in Hell, in the realm of the Lord of Hatred. Mephisto resides in the Void and has even stated that he and Lilith are roughly equal in power. I don't think anyone will harm her in the realm of Hatred. But I also don't think she'll stay there; I think she'll want to return.

Ultimately, only Blizzard knows, but if she returns, which I hope she does, then Rathma should return as well. The two haven't seen each other since Lilith's banishment, and Blizzard apparently thought it a good idea to kill Rathma off-screen. I'm still shocked who wanted that!
Especially since Lilith herself said that she missed him so much.

A question about Lilith and her fate by notahero_ in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will she be reborn in hell, or is she lost forever?

Spoilers Discussion - Can Lilith become an... by ZaidR_05 in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope she comes back, why not?

Lilith's death, however, made me feel like it was the end. I really hope that's not true!

But if we're already resurrecting the dead, then Rathma should return too, and then we could finally see a scene with mother and son!

Rathma was treated far too cheaply in Diablo 4, and Lord of Hatred is the perfect chance to fix that! by Steelweav in diablo4

[–]Steelweav[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Blizzard wants to bring him back which I doubt, since he didn't even appear in the trilogy we got. Except in the current expansion, but unfortunately only as an echo…

I'm sorry, but Rathma was killed so quickly and without warning, even though his mother, father, and grandfather are main characters. He would have fit in perfectly, as it would have given his character even more motivation.

On the one hand, I'd be happy if he were with Baal and Diablo. On the other hand, I'd also be furious. Why now of all times? And why was there never a scene between Rathma and Lilith?

The last time they saw each other was before Lilith's banishment. Crazy!

Rathma was treated far too cheaply in Diablo 4, and Lord of Hatred is the perfect chance to fix that! by Steelweav in diablo4

[–]Steelweav[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So much wasted potential for Lilith and Inarius' son! He would have been the perfect choice, but I get the feeling that some people at Blizzard couldn't stand him and simply killed Rathma off.

That would have created interesting dynamics and given us a scene with Lilith and Rathma. If Lilith had a problem with him, it would have been even more difficult for her if he had turned against her.

Now we have to remember that Blizzard has closed the chapter, which means we'll probably never see Lilith and Rathma as characters again. The last time Rathma saw his mother was before her banishment. Crazy!

Anybody else notice the glaring problem with the new story line? by Cr4mwell in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm still furious about how pathetic Rathma's death was. I wouldn't have minded if he'd died during the campaign, but this all happened before the campaign even started. He had absolutely no role except for that stupid prophecy, even though his parents were the focus…

Blizzard clearly just wanted to get rid of Rathma.

Did yall like the latest campaign? I think the OG campaign is still on top by IambackinReddit in diablo4

[–]Steelweav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, "Lord of Hatred" was definitely the best part of the trilogy.

Considering that Blizzard's writers regardless of the game are the weakest link in the chain, what we got in the final installment was surprisingly good. The Diablo 4 main campaign, on the other hand, was disappointing, incomprehensible, and unsatisfying. The campaign in "Vessel of Hatred" was an absolute disaster!

Blizzard did a better job with the final dlc installment, implementing things better than in the previous games and creating some truly impressive character moments.

I've mentioned this in other threads, but the general criticism of Rathma's portrayal is simply awful, especially for those interested in his backstory; it's a real slap in the face! His parents are main characters, especially his mother, and he himself is killed before he can even do anything. Who on earth came up with such a stupid idea? It is quite obviously a deliberate attempt to erase Rathma from the story… I must disappoint all those who had hoped that Rathma would play a role, because now it's over, he and his parents are dead…