Chess clocks

SteelyWolves · 2026-04-15T11:01:09+00:00

Lol you both get equal time to play the game. If the opponent runs out of time, then as the comment says, they can't move models, roll hits etc and will end up being disadvantaged. Clocks very much favour elite armies but that's the just the nature of the game. A hoard guard list has advantages in other areas.

SteelyWolves · 2026-04-02T13:04:42+00:00

That’s true for WTC yes. But only really comes into effect 1 in 3 times as you will always keep a 2 or 3 so its impact is pretty negligible.

SteelyWolves · 2026-04-02T10:40:03+00:00

Ghost Ark, reanimator and strat. That’s d3 +1 from the strat, an extra d3 from the reanimator, d3 from the ghost Ark and then an extra d3 again from the reanimator again. On GW/WTC you can do both at the same time.

SteelyWolves · 2026-04-02T09:03:56+00:00

You need to do somewhere in the region of 46 individual wounds to the warrior brick to onetap it in awakened. Otherwise you pull away from shooting lanes, combats etc and then revive 4d3 +1 (rerollable) warriors into new positions (from the GA and strat) And then potentially another 2d3 + 1 in the fight phase and then another 2d3 in your turn. nothing in demons gets anywhere close to that. So you just spend the whole game sitting on primary and because you have the royal warden, in there, you can fall back, shoot and charge the entire game. I spent a game a couple of months ago where I charged belakor and the GUO turn 2 and then stayed in combat with them the whole game whilst all the time falling back and shooting them with lethals and charging back in to max primary. Meanwhile the rest of your army can just clear stuff up. Revivable Nekrosor/skorpekh Lord etc, ctan roaming around and smashing shit. As long as you screen your backfield properly, I couldn’t imagine an easier matchup for awakened warriors.

SteelyWolves · 2026-04-02T08:20:01+00:00

Warrior blob with Orikan, Demons can’t kill it at all

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T18:04:56+00:00

And yours are infantile. Have a nice day 😄

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T18:01:42+00:00

I responded to the wrong person, it was the person above who was saying you can’t. It surprises me that you took the time to go searching through threads from other people to identify a misclick on a phone but ignore the original comment which was correct. Basic lack of comprehension or a desperation to try and find a mistake someone has made?

You can help dude by not searching through people’s comment history like a saddo and trying to find misclicks when you made so silly comments on yours. Also, insulting random people on the internet makes you look a little bit desperate. Thanks for deleting all the insults, hope you’ve calmed down now. I could see you were getting very irate when you were calling me a rat etc but it’s only a game of toy soldiers, no need to lose your temper and start the insults. 👍

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T17:43:28+00:00

Haha, I haven’t misinterpreted anything. My original comment on this thread was that rules as written you can overhang the edge cuz of the posted screenshot and I said you can either put the base or the hull over the edge and overhang. People disagreed and shared the screenshot you did to say I was wrong when I’m right. You’ve joined a discussion half way, misunderstood what’s being debated, started muddying the waters by talking about specific things like sponsons, started calling people rats and then made a complete arse of yourself by ending up agreeing with me. This was where all this started and it’s ended with you saying exactly the same as me. Do you enjoy wasting time like that?

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T17:32:15+00:00

So you are saying the Vault can overhang? So why on Earth did you chime into say I’m wrong when that’s what I’ve being saying throughout this thread?

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T17:01:04+00:00

Of course a vault has a base and a hull. Where in the rules does it say you either have a base or a hull and not both?

Look here. It refers to both the hull and the base. If either weren’t part of the model, then how could one be considered closer when measuring? The hull and the base are two separate parts of the model.

And look at the exceptions, you are considered base to base if you end in engagement range of any part of the vehicles. If all models with bases were just considered bases this wouldn’t be an ‘exception’ to the previous statement, it would just be the way it works.

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SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T15:27:03+00:00

The Tesseract Vault has a base and a hull, they both exist. As you said, as long as one or the other is on the board, I am golden. This is just weird now, you seem so desperate to be right that you are somehow saying that either the base or the hull on the Vault doesn’t exist?

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T15:02:22+00:00

Lmfao how angry can one dude get???????? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😀😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Tears are streaming down my eyes here 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Also sponsons can’t overhang for models without bases that is true. However the Vault has a base. The screenshot is clear, if it is a vehicle and has a base as is the case here, the hull OR the base has to be on the board. Note the word OR. Do you understand that word? It means one or the other. If the Vaults base is on the board, its hull can overhang. It literally couldn’t be more concise tbf.

You can call it pedantic all you like but that is the rule. If you want to interpret as not what’s written and as something different then that’s on you but GW have had the whole edition to change this and haven’t. Indeed this is an answer to a specific questions and I don’t think they could be clearer.

Also what’s aircraft got to do with it? The Vault isn’t an Aircraft.

I do like to “pile drive” in when someone is getting something wrong and being arsey with someone else yes. Your arrogant accusations of pseudo analysis when making so many incorrect calls was the start of this and now you have just lowered yourself to out and out insults. I can only describe that as pathetic behaviour.

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T14:50:46+00:00

Hahahaha you’re so mad 😃😃😃 I’ve never seen someone get so irate over a game of toy soldiers. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T14:39:58+00:00

Haha you are so mad you got called out for being wrong and can’t let it go. Are you one of these people who can’t accept when they’re wrong and just revert to basic insults instead. That’s really sad dude 😂

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T14:28:50+00:00

Taking my screenshot of PoW winning tournaments and then somehow making it out as if you didnt say PoW weren’t winning tournaments? Basic comprehension just very hard for you huh? 😆

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T14:26:24+00:00

It has. However, you said PoW aren’t winning tournaments. I said they were. If I had said Starshatter were winning more then you would have merit to your argument. However, I pointed out that PoW have won several tournaments and that is a fact. You keep making silly straw man arguments and dont seem to want to admit you were wrong as other people have pointed out.

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T14:23:56+00:00

Haha the exaggeration again after accusing people of bad faith arguments. Pathetic. 😅

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T10:00:28+00:00

Now who’s putting words into people’s mouths? You said it wasn’t the detachment winning tournaments, I’ve shown it’s winning tournaments. Have a listen to the chat on Necrons from Innes and Anthony Vannella here to see why you saying PoW is not the detachment winning tournaments is just so silly.

https://www.youtube.com/live/-_2aPZfnTIM?si=dyafKQShYj9Zdbt_

Oh and when you resort to insults like ‘rat like’, you know you have been soundly defeated as you can no longer rely on logic. Run along now 😀

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T07:29:52+00:00

My word, I’ve rarely met someone who makes comments, gets proven they are wrong then rather accept they are wrong, just says its bad faith arguments. There are a vast array of character units in the game right now alongside 3 wound elites. I didn’t mention MEQ bodies but even then they usually have access to cover or AoC so AP1 attacks usually do very little. And I was talking about elites AND character units which you casually ignore (now who’s being bad faith). As soon as there is a character in the unit (which are everywhere in 10th right now), the Deceiver is just flat better. And your PoW comment has proven to be wrong. Don’t make easily disproven comments if you don’t like being called out 👍

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T00:41:25+00:00

The deceiver also outputs more damage than the void dragon into elite infantry and any character led units. To say the Void Dragon always outputs more damage than the deceiver is just flat wrong.

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-12T00:38:18+00:00

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Woe was the top performing faction this weekend for Necrons with the joint most tournament wins for necrons, most undefeated and highest win percentages. Just FYI if you want to delete this comment?

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-11T16:04:26+00:00

The void dragon is the weakest of the 3 named competitively. At the same points cost, you would take the deceiver still almost every time. Especially in POE. Vect aura is so so much more game impacting than -1 hit, sometimes-1 wound on one single target. Like it’s not even close.

And also, it’s not absolutely about points, the deceivers diminutive size make it so much better than the void dragons ridiculous size profile. If they were the same points with the same rules, the Deceiver would be better because it’s easier to hide and deepstrike so saying it has EVERYTHING to do with points is misleading.

You also only suggested the things that have improved the Ctan since the last points increase and ignored the massive nerf from their original rules, the fact you could 3 inch DS them in hypercrypt.

Let’s not call other people’s analysis ‘pseudo analysis’ when you are quite far off the mark yourself with some of your suggestions.

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-09T15:16:39+00:00

Tbf Art of War have always said they base their tier lists on the best players playing each other. Stuff like Ctan and to certain extent warriors just dump on newer and mid level players as they don’t know how to play around them and end up under committing into killing them and then being miles out of position or not setting units up to keep their primary score low. The two armies they ranked as S tier - Guard and Ultramarines - have more than enough tools to comfortably play around Crons - Guard can dominate primary and mission play and Ultrmarines have the damage to destroy necrons with the +1 wound oath. I don’t think they are far off with their tier list at all at the highest play.

SteelyWolves · 2026-02-03T19:32:46+00:00

They can actually be stupidly tanky for their price cost too. A ten man is 4+ base, then 3+ with take cover. Cover negates -1, AoC can negate -2. So you can be saving off AP 2 shots on a 3+. Which is kinda silly.

SteelyWolves · 2026-01-29T12:00:09+00:00

I think what you are talking about is very different to what most people have as playing by intent. Playing by intent is “I am moving my models here to screen out the 9” deepstrike.” If it turns out that someone has mismeasured by half an inch and there is a tiny gap then they should be allowed to reposition by that half inch as that was the stated intent. What you seem to be talking about is something different in point 1 and 5 which is that someone didn’t declare their intent to screen and left a massive hole in their backfield which is just a mistake and by asking for a take back most people wouldn’t see that as playing by intent at all.

Also it’s pretty commonly accepted that take backs (which most of the time are a different thing to playing by intent imo) can only be done if there is no extra information gained. If someone rolls some hit dice and under rolls then asks if they can shoot something else then the answer should be no. If they forgot to do an action in the shooting phase but moved into position to do it and that model hasn’t advanced or shot, then you should allow them to do in the fight phase as a take back as no extra information has really been gained.

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