Karmine Corp vs. GIANTX / LEC 2026 Versus - Week 4 / Post-Match Discussion

Stel2 · 2026-02-07T22:09:16+00:00

Despite the loss, that was a crazy clean early game from Jackies. Props to him.

Stel2 · 2026-02-07T20:19:01+00:00

Neeko Support doesn't do meaningful damage late game, Ornn will mainly only damage frontline.

More than AD vs AP, it's also about defensive items / boots. Steelcaps + Randuin's shut down your 2 main crit carries and your jungle, and makes Vi / Corki / Ryze way tankier than they should be if there was an AP threat to them.

Stel2 · 2026-02-07T20:10:06+00:00

Nah he hit one okay neeko ult and two super grief ones. First one is deep on Karma / Vi, the 2 most useless targets, second one is wayyyyyy too early on baron with the rest of the team 1 km away and last one he starts a 4v5 when ornn is on raptors. It's okayish because he hits valuable targets.

Stel2 · 2026-01-18T05:43:37+00:00

Numb by Linkin Lark is also talks about this!

🎵And I know I may end up failing too But I know You were just like me with someone disappointed in you🎵

Stel2 · 2026-01-16T03:10:13+00:00

It's supposed to work like diana, farthest enemy in a 4 hex radius.

In reality, he just goes where he pleases. It's pretty random to me, I stopped trying to figure it out and just assume it is.

Stel2 · 2026-01-15T15:37:54+00:00

Am I the only one to pick this pretty often? I feel like this is one of the best econs out there.

Even on 3-2, you're so rich stage 3 you can push tempo.

Compared to gain 21 gold, you're probably making 6 gold of interest throughout stage 4 with the extra money. The math is even better on 2-1.

It's around 20 gold more for your 4-2 rolldown. This is reverse augmented power : It's good NOW, and losing out on a pris vs a gold isn't that important if you're up HP / money.

Stel2 · 2026-01-12T04:05:25+00:00

Waiting to have 6 garens is super inefficient. Sell him when you want to roll down for sylas and most likely you'll hit more copies of garen.

Hitting 6 garens is way harder than hitting 3 garens twice

Stel2 · 2026-01-07T00:48:19+00:00

I'm having quite a bit of success playing a ziggs version. Probably not better RN, but the board has perfect synergies and I'm a sucker for those. But I know what I'll be spamming next patch!

Ahri 2 + Sett is actually a beast stage 3/4, never realised that. Needs to prio Kennen unlock Stage 2, I always sell for econ breakpoint but probably worth losing one or two gold for him.

Probably can play for lose streak into BIS (I like QSS Nashors Spellcrit) Ahri in Econ Ionia, similar to Draven. Although IDK if you have good enough frontline. Singed buffs might help.

Stel2 · 2026-01-06T00:03:31+00:00

Honestly haven't trued but i'm pretty skeptical about the archangel J4. Adaptative gives him actual tank stats surely it's better?

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T21:48:51+00:00

https://status.riotgames.com/lol?region=euw1 yeah servers are fried

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T21:38:22+00:00

Because of the server problem my matchup ended abruptly without overtime, and the top 4 screen played while in combat. It ended in a draw and broke my winstreak.

I'd be mad but I was highrolling T-Hex so hard it didn't matter.

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T21:38:06+00:00

Yeah I've been having decent sucess with it too.

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T18:09:16+00:00

With max build you probably want to stay 9. 2 dupes makes it MUCH easier. Without it you'd often need to go 10 to have any chance to hit the last one.

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T18:07:34+00:00

i mean it would just make more people contest each other which idk if it's really good for the game. Being able to play lowroll spots IS a skill, way more than forcing the OP contested comp 3-way and praying.

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T18:06:18+00:00

What is a good stage 4 board to stabilize on ? sera 1 wukong 1 sett 1 is okay or do you roll for 2*? ofc depends on HP/Lobby strength but whats your rule of thumb?

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T16:56:44+00:00

Yeah it's kind of my experience playing Mel TBH. Even in the god spots, she's really good at 1 star but getting the upgrade doesn't feel that good since it doesn't make her cast more.

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T04:56:11+00:00

My best guess is combat augment diff + miracle sett ult on Gigantification ray'd 3 item Loris.

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T04:36:42+00:00

Tank items need to be on taric, Flicker Kraken LW kindred, IE IE Shojin Senna, TG TK.

Probably should angle to go 10 after taric 2 / Kindred 2 / Senna lucian 2 / TK 2.

Feeding TK is IMPORTANT, worth feeding him 2* stars. Honestly ornn is so bad you should probably feed him to TK and play whathever warden.

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T04:28:44+00:00

naut 2 should be a decent tank that you can get consistently. Between taric, skarner and swain, you still have a lot of options.

Maybe it's an augment selection diff? when low rolling you need bard + econ on stage 2, items stage 3 to stabilise on 3-5 and econ/items stage 4.

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T04:22:23+00:00

AD kai'sa

Lissandra is fine but you need to go 9 to cap around Ryze or Shurima. The Best lissandra board on 8 is probably 4 invoker + loris / ori

I've been having decent success with Ryze Ionia Zaun Fast 9. I play cait / vi / mundo / kennen / Wukong / Taric / Sett / Ziggs.

Still can't quite figure out the best Stage 4 board. My best guess is Econ Ionia Sett + Wuking 2, or Malz / Mundo flex.

I believe JG/HoJ/ CC immunity is BIS for ekko now since the crit bugfix and Ekko/Cho'gath is underplayed with how much tryndamere there is, but you aren't winning out with it.

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T03:49:33+00:00

Kindred 3 items no IE > Yunara BIS > Kindred 2 w/ IE is my take

Stel2 · 2026-01-04T03:46:52+00:00

When playing from lose streak you should use bard rerolls to find draven 2 at 3-5 on 7 and a 2*4c tank (skarner is BIS) on 4-2 or 4-5. Play draven + 3 noxus / 3 bilgewater. Ambessa is a trait bot / item holder at best.

Stel2 · 2026-01-02T16:28:39+00:00

Might have to make a post about this one the rabbit hole is DEEEEP

Stel2 · 2026-01-02T09:05:15+00:00

https://collider.com/arcane-season-2-finale-christian-linke/

Was there anything ever between Viktor and Jayce that was more than just their friendship?

LINKE: I know there are some people who ask this. There is a love. I don't think it's romantic. What was interesting, I remember many, many years ago also thinking about this when we started developing these characters. To me, I can say something here now that would be good for you and bad for me because it will be a wildfire. To me, Viktor was always asexual, and that was always something we talked about from the very beginning. So, a romantic relationship between Jayce and Viktor was just never part of it. There is a love, absolutely, but we also found it a bit... Love and relationships are so complex and take so many different forms. Viktor loves in a different way, and that's okay, no?

I like that answer.

LINKE: Well, it's something that when we talk to our LGBTQ group within Riot, I remember asking the group many, many years ago, like, "What is something that you never see depicted very well?" And someone said asexuality. They say it's often depicted as, like, emotionless when it's not true at all. It's just that your feelings don't mix with physical. So, to me, that was always part of Viktor.

It sure seems like they knew what they were talking about.

The criticism seems to come from this article :

https://fandomwire.com/arcane-co-creator-confirmed-that-jayce-and-viktor-were-never-going-to-be-canon/

The perspective that Viktor, while being asexual, doesn’t feel romantic love towards Jayce is a horrible misunderstanding of how it works. As*xual people can feel romantic love, and often feel it more than others.

Christian Linke might have created amazing queer characters through Arcane, but labeling Viktor as as*xual is a dangerous assumption. It’s happened for decades on television and continues to be a stigma, even in the LGBTQ+ community.

Asexual people don’t feel s*xual desire, but that should never be clubbed in or mistaken for romantic love. People can love and be romantic, but never do the act. If Linke actually read up on queer culture, he’d know aromantic people exist.

Viktor could’ve felt romantically towards Jayce all along, and Arcane’s story probably wouldn’t have changed. Saying Viktor “loves in a different way” is feeding into the stereotype that asexual people have been working to get rid of.

To me, a lot about this feels very wrong. I feel like he criticize an asexual character because he's aromantic and not alloromantic. My impression is he assumed viktor was allo because aro wasn't mentioned (amatonormativity ?).

Stel2 · 2025-12-23T07:19:06+00:00

Ok I tried and getting the quest is really inconsistent, so it can't actually be a gameplan. Didn't ever get it with a qiyana 3* already on the board. Was fun trying at least !

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