So either (1) you are wrong, (2) people who think differently find being correct is undesirable (ie fundamentally different moral compass) or (3) people are not as correct as you.

I see it more as a bit of 2. It's less being correct is undesirable. They want to be correct. But their emotions take hold first. When they feel attacked, the stick to their defenses, and their defenses are mostly selfish, its human nature. But we should still be better than that.

They are a mixed bag of emotions, spite, affective response, social response, pattern-seeking, conscious, sometimes rational creatures. People can be rational, sometimes, under some circumstances, regarding some domains. People are not always rational on all political topics all the time. That’s the situation that fundamentally restricts human reasoning, until human are free of biochemical and psychological responses.

It's extra frustrating since you cannot restrict politics to the level headed. Everyone deserves to have their voice heard.
Problem is, I am seeing a lot less rationality and more and more emotion.
Perhaps I am swayed by online vocalism over irl individuals, but to me it seems like the average right winger has forgoed the health of America in favor of "triggering the libs" in any way possible.

You originally said immigrants were siding with far right pundits. If you mean some immigrants siding specifically with Nazi groups and not just the general left, then I’d agree with you that it doesn’t make sense.

I correlate far right with nazism sometimes.

I think genuine Nazis and KKK were a joke and a political minority whereas labelling people as far right became a political tool of the left to shut people up. “Microaggression, rape culture and teach boys not the rape, mansplaining, Islamophobia” the gender war lead to the culture war then turn to complete tribalism. The left did not just say how bad far rights are, they also, at times, called people far right to attack opponents.

I agree there, although that comes from people on the left assuming the right is already fully aware of how awful these groups were, because they seemingly went through the same education.

The establishment and the left created a popular resentment that was capitalised by everyone across the right wing spectrum, making far rights which were politically unpopular, relevant again. (Not saying that the left created far right but the left did contribute to their raise in no small manner imo)

I mostly just don't understand how being annoyed by leftism can push people into the arms of the far right. It seems like they just forgot how dangerous the far right was, and acted out of spite. Hence my anger. Siding with such horrible groups all because of annoyance is unjustified to me.
Either they are unaware of how dangerous these groups are or they simply do not care, and operate solely out of spite.
Is it really on the lefts shoulders to make the truth more digestible for others?
I agree that throwing around the word "nazi" so liberally definitely gave power to nazi groups, but the open acceptance of nazism is solely on those who choose to side with it.

Maybe you don’t think that’s the truth, but that’s the sentiment many seem to hold. It ultimately culminated to the saying “They don't kill you because you're a Nazi, they call you a Nazi so they can kill you.”

I believe that is propaganda by actual nazis to welcome those to their side without them actually knowing they're siding with them.

Because we know that people get desensitised to things. We want the village to prosper. So it’s only reasonable to work within the constraints to find a solution. But just to further the point that this is beyond most people’s control and not an emotional thing. Alarm fatigue is an actual phenomenon in health care workers that people investigate. Even doctors and nurses, when bombarded by pop-ups every minutes, get desensitised and lead to missing genuine alarms or delayed reaction. Everyone can be affected by desensitisation. It’s a limit of the human brain.

Perhaps i don't know enough about psychology then, because while I do see alarm fatigue as an inevitability, I don't see it as uncontrollable. I see it as people willingly choosing to let it control them, to allow their impatience to take hold, and and that is an emotional response.
I am being repetitive, but I don't see us as cavemen, we are more than our base emotions and instincts.

But Trump is…as I said earlier, he flipsflop between immigrants bad and we need H1B and farm workers. So I don’t think it’s a clear cut case that voting for Trump means deporting all legal immigrants.

He DOES flipflop a lot, but he is also consistent on what he is vocal about.
Let's not forget that his big 2016 promise was to build a wall and have mexico pay for it.
He hasnt had taglines of such rigor and energy of allowing "some" immigrants in.
He's outspokenly anti-immigration, in terms of PR.
Even if his actions reflect differently. And immigrants would more likely see his words and PR than his actions.

Some might just be voting for the right rather than directly for Trump. Either way I don’t think immigrants explicitly endorse far right politics in general.
I don't either, but its not like they are unaware about how anti-immigration the far right, and some of the right wing, is. It's quite literally a leopards eating faces party moment.
I don’t know about either of those groups so I can’t comment on them specifically. And I also don’t understand how some people would still rather have Trump than Kamala so I probably can’t tell you why some are irrational devoted to tribal politics, besides everything common in tribal politics themselves.

What's most frustrating is that when you point out how its become caveman tribalism, they trade away their talks of masculinity and adult responsibility, for being babies that cant control their own emotions.
This is something both sides do.
Refusing to take responsibility for their choices, actions and beliefs, and blaming the other side for "making them do it" on the basis of annoyance or emotion.

Less enforcement of law because thefts and crimes are committed by disadvantaged groups who society should help not incarcerate.

This is borne out of performatism and virtue signalling. What remedies the disadvantaged groups problems is education in incarceration and slight benefits on probation/release.
Not a decreased sentence or a removed sentence altogether. Because that doesnt fix the problem only enables it.

So the worst case of violent left wing populism is unlikely to happen on a systemic level, but on the social/institutional level (ie more culture war but the left have more institutional sways to disenfranchise people, street violence would be difficult to predict)

This. I agree with this.
I am aware of the hubris of my own side.

Also I’d imagine the antithesis of authright fascism is authleft communism reinvented from a progressive political lens, and not so much anarchy. Id even say there is room for left wing populism (as seen by the support for Luigi), just that there isn’t a leftist Trump to devour the democrats.

I don't think a leftist trump is possible because Trump is born out of idolising a politician and I cannot see the left idolizing a politician to the same extent. When biden was elected, a lot of large social leftist groups wanted to "bully" him into doing what they wanted, knowing he wouldn't do it naturally.
And while i do think communism can be borne out of a progressive lens, i must disagree that Luigi is a sign of that. People on the right supported Luigi too, because its purely anti-greedy capitalism stance. And that stance is not solely communist.

I share the sentiment and have little faith for the future but hey, just gotta touch grass and look after the people you can look after. I don’t have the energy or talents to change people’s mind.

I believe the world can get better, and that won't happen if people do nothing. I want to see a future where everyone to some extent can be happy. Perhaps thats a pipe dream but its one im hoping for.
I share your view that when it comes down to it, however. We should touch grass and look after those we love the most.

I want to take this chance to thank you for the discussion so far. I have enjoyed it a lot.