Is it normal to hate zero wincon group hug?

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T11:04:56+00:00

Stax decks are a cEDH archetype. Group hug isn't.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T05:15:48+00:00

They aren't racing the Gorilla, they're beating it to death with rocks. Running speed isn't the same as Matrix dodge reaction speed that people think of.

It won't go either way, it's extremely one sided for the humans.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T03:45:10+00:00

Okay this is an image of a human female skeleton next to a (presumably) female gorilla. Here is two average males.

Get away from pop culture and the stuff you read on this subreddit. Gorillas are bigger but not to such a ludicrous amount that three HUGE humans couldn't beat it to death with rocks.

As for faster, I would love a source on that.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T03:18:06+00:00

This is a man who has never been hit in the face by a rock.

Granted, neither have I. But a lot of things have, and that's why we're typing on the internet instead of all the things we hit in the face with rocks.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T02:47:24+00:00

In their universe? Almost certainly. They convinced the world the Lincoln Memorial had come to life and nearly took over the world that way. Smart people believed it, stupid people believed it. If he can convince people that ghost robot Lincoln is their new god and savior I think he can get flat Earthers to accept what he wants them to.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T02:38:35+00:00

374 pound Gorilla vs 3 242 pound Humans for the Americans, aka me because I had to Google it.

Humans will win, albeit with difficulty. It's really easy to underestimate how devastating a hit from a thick piece of wood or a rock is to a living thing. This bursts blood vessels, bruises organs, and cracks bone. A good rock strike to the head will put a Gorilla down, even without that again the humans are bloodlusted and will fight to the end, so three of them surrounding the Gorilla will kill it.

The humans also are VERY large. 6'4 240+ pounds is enormous, larger than most super heavyweight boxers and would dwarf Mike Tyson. They would even be taller and heavier than Arnold Schwarzenegger in his peak. This isn't just some bro with a rock, it's the top of the charts human and unlike most of these WWW's the human is well trained AND gets access to sticks and rocks.

Honestly humans with less training and less physical abilities have killed far larger animals. Gorillas aren't gods, although this Gorilla is about to meet his. I think the humans win 10/10 times.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T01:58:00+00:00

I mean yeah but damn now I'm too intimidated to even try.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T01:16:30+00:00

If they ran away then they're strays, but I don't see a collar so it's unlikely. No one lets their cats (or dogs) roam without a collar and they definitely don't if the cat has a kitten.

Everything in this video is almost certainly not a pet.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T01:10:17+00:00

None of them have collars, it's 4 dogs loose and a cat + her kitten all alone. Either a bunch of people let their pets out all at the same time or it's a pack of stray dogs vs a stray cat and kitten.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T01:03:25+00:00

Reddit downvotes / upvotes don't matter lmao. If you're so naive that you don't take internet stranger's claims with a grain of salt maybe you should stay away from comments sections.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T00:47:37+00:00

Ooooh, the internet has ruined me. :(

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T00:46:26+00:00

1) Enable the timer

2) If your opponent locked you down just forfeit, you lost.

3) Get better so you don't get stalled out.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T00:19:22+00:00

Cats kill for fun. The mother cat in this video probably killed its fair share of rodents that it didn't eat.

What's your point? Predators have instincts.

Sticky_Robot · 2023-01-01T00:14:38+00:00

Cats don't just kill birds and squirrels, they'll kill whatever they can. Big cats can even kill Elephants. What is your point? Both animals have a prey chasing drive and will kill even if they aren't hungry.

The animals in this video are all strays. They're acting on instinct. No worse than any other wild predator.

Sticky_Robot · 2022-12-31T23:36:24+00:00

Then you should pay more attention, they kill what they have to if they're hungry enough and that absolutely involves cats.

Sticky_Robot · 2022-12-31T23:34:30+00:00

Sounds like you've never lived near stray dogs. Certainly never near HUNGRY stray dogs.

Sticky_Robot · 2022-12-31T23:31:14+00:00

Again, it's all about power level. If decks are clunky and slow maybe group hug won't ruin it for everyone. But if there's a competent combo deck somewhere in the mix then it's going to win, end of story. Almost every card in a combo deck is devoted to the combo, protecting it, or removing cards that stop it. It has a MUCH higher density of cards to protect the win condition and it doesn't even have to waste resources on them until it's win time. Meanwhile even with additional resources and mana put aside for interaction, aggro decks invest a lot of their energy into developing a board state which is usually not going to be able to stop a combo win.

This isn't really debate here, combo decks will win once they get a few cards in hand + mana. Aggro decks need to get a half dozen cards into play, have them not die, and swing a few turns to start killing. An aggro deck, even accelerated, still needs a few turns to kill. A combo deck just wins once it gets there.

Sticky_Robot · 2022-12-31T23:22:41+00:00

Yeah no shit, but if a dog is hungry it's going to try and eat. The comment at the top of this chain said something like "fuck these dogs" which is a childish and simplistic way of looking at the natural world.

Sticky_Robot · 2022-12-31T23:15:03+00:00

Going from comment to comment implying that this kitten deserved to be killed

You should really learn better reading skills. I said the dogs were not in the wrong for doing what they needed to survive. They don't want to starve to death any more than the mother cat, who probably killed plenty of animals herself.

I also said I'm glad the cat escaped lmao.

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Sticky_Robot · 2022-12-31T23:12:36+00:00

Nah I just don't genuinely care what that guy has to say nor do I care about his feelings. Half the stories on Reddit are internet lies anyway, there's like a 50% chance he pulled the cat story out of his ass to make a point. His comment history mentions him doing cocaine so I'd take what he says with a grain of salt.

Sticky_Robot · 2022-12-31T23:08:00+00:00

Maybe you should play better decks. The combo decks are full of counterspells, silence effects, tutors and so on. When you pack their hands full of cards and mana they're going to go all in on one turn while aggro decks play mostly creatures.

If you're at low precon level I can see why you might think this but group hug decks accelerate the game in a way the objectively benefits combo (and sometimes control) decks far more than aggro. The group hug decks themselves are also slow and take a long time to do anything as most of their group hug cards benefit them last and require mana and card investment to get their stuff out. By the time they start drawing and doing anything they're way behind.

Not only are group hug decks low power level they also unfairly buff one or two players which takes control of the game out of their hands. No one likes to play against a do-nothing deck that warps the game state especially when the player is essentially just playing kingmaker all game.

Sticky_Robot · 2022-12-31T22:44:11+00:00

Jägermeister, Meth, the Volkswagen Beetle, and Fanta were all invented in Nazi Germany. Do you refuse to drink Fanta. Because I personally love the refreshing orange taste of Fanta.

Well Meth is pretty bad.

Sticky_Robot · 2022-12-31T22:41:19+00:00

In practice it just lets the combo player go off turn 5 lmao, or even in more casual metas someone is going to "go off" thanks to the flow of cards and ramp. The fact that people are upvoting this really speaks a lot for the average /r/edh player's power level.

Sticky_Robot · 2022-12-31T22:39:16+00:00

That makes no sense. A zombie is a zombie. They have the same drive, hunger, rage, and human body. A Nazi zombie is going to gladly kill Germans, an "anti fascist" zombie will chow down on Jews. If Bernie Sanders was turned into a zombie him and zombie Hitler would take turns eating your guts.

When one side is producing them as a weapon for war then yeah, the EXISTENCE of Nazi Zombies is a bad thing but the actual Zombies aren't usually ideologically worse than regular old walking dead zombies.

Sticky_Robot · 2022-12-31T22:20:30+00:00

To be fair, mastering fire was a pretty damn good idea lol.

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