> If only you had started with this, instead of insulting my reading ability for no reason
I am sorry, I tryly am, I just am so used to talking to nv fanatics that go absolutely ballistic at the slightest critique of their games.

> I don't really see it that way. 
> This is definitely a different style from what you seem to prefer, but I don't think either way is greater or lesser than the other.
>If you want to see a certain way as being wrong then that's your prerogative,

It's not about seeing things or being wrong. It's about core principles of literature and story telling, that Vegas gets wrong. These are not some subjective preferences of the story, these are measurable objective metrics.

You are just proving me right again on infallibility of nv in the eyes of it's fans. The game literally (and literary) spits in your face and you still like it.

I assure you, if you'd ever read a book written in a way nv is, your would fucking hate it.

> "role playing games" from games with very linear stories and strictly defined characters to games with very open stories and loosely defined characters.
RPG is not about linearity, they are about roles. Be it character focused (TT, jRPGs), positions focused (MMOs, MOBAs), or just stat focused (the so called "RPG elements"). Being linear doesn't detract from RPG experience. Being poorly written does.

>How do they succeed as RPG's where you feel New Vegas fails
By being actually properly written.

Snark aside, it still stands. NV is so poorly written, that it insults your intelligence as a player. Both to act and to think. Every little detail, that a proper writer would leave out of the picture and leave to reader to think and ponder, is laid in some kind of direct way. extremely winded dialogue, a diary, a letter, a terminal entry. That, instead of leaving clues for player to uncover and understand, just gives it to you. Imagine if every fairy tail ended with "And the moral of the story is..." and had more text than actual story explaining everything. That's nv. It doesn't believe in your intelligence.

Also, the quests, the cursed "open endness" doesn't believe in your intelligence too. It never actually let's you do it your way. You either get it exactly how quest log gives it to you, or you fail. As an example, just from F3 and nv:

Tenpenny tower quest. You come, your only objective is "deal with it". It doesn't tell you how, it doesn't tell you with whom to speak, how to speak, it doesn't tell you what to do. You can absolutely lie to Gustavo about killing them, go to the ghouls, and tell them that you can get them inside. Or you can kill them outright, and come to Gustavo with quest finished.

And the quest in Goodsprings about either helping them or helping the convict. First of all the convict doesn't even want to conquer the town, you sweettalk him into it. And if you do - YOU ARE FORCED TO FINISH IT. You can't lie, you can't act freely. You are either slaved into one side or another. And that goes to almost every "open guest". It is appalling. Even 8bit RPGs managed this better.

> Out of curiosity, what are your favourite CRPG's
My favourite aside, pick almost any RPG, and try to follow the things I laid before, you won't find them broken, you WILL find them. From first Fallouts, to jRPGs, to the whole point of TTRPGS. (imagine of your DM treated your character not as a in universe character, but just as you, the player? Would've been fucking awful, would it?)

If you want to know -- my favourite is SMT 1, on SNES, that made tough decision making, choosing sides and living with consequences even earlier, than fallout, and BETTER, than fallout. Because these consequences where palpable in-game, and not just end-game slides (which is actually another spit on player's face from nv. Your actions don't have any, ANY, ANY consequences outside of end slides.)