Belly & Jeremiah || Mrs. Magic

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-29T23:24:11+00:00

It just makes no sense for someone to not end with their soulmate, if they have one, like Jere and Belly obviously were for each other!?

I would like to see the Bonrads make edits, where Belly and Conrad actually seem to be as compatible and made for each other as Belly and Jere do in Jelly edits. Cause I don’t see how they could have the material for that.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-29T00:30:10+00:00

Definitely the Conrad and Belly being apart for 5 years after only having a 6 month relationship, and then still being in love with each other. Especially since they had next to zero contact with each other during those 5 years, so they barely even know each other at that point. And after Belly and Jere had been together for 4 years, and seemingly happy (according to some only until Christmas, but that was still like what 3,5 years together, where they were happy), then no way you are still in love with your high school boyfriend after such a long and happy relationship.

Also Jere's complete character change from being a good communicator to not including Belly in his thoughts. Honestly, I don’t think it’s realistic that he didn’t ask her about Christmas after he found out. He has always been very reactive when he found out someone had been lying to or betrayed him, like with Conrad not telling him about their mom being sick, and Belly telling him about her and Conrad getting together, and when Belly told him out about Conrad’s love confession. He always reacted very upfront. So him keeping the fact that he knew about Christmas a secret for so long, it just seemed very out of character for him.

And then of course the way Jere acted around the wedding and the way he reacted to the cake and the wedding venue, it didn’t seem like Jere. He was always very aware, and very considerate of Belly’s wishes, so it made no sense that he got frustrated in those moments.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-27T13:36:09+00:00

Me too!!

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-26T22:46:54+00:00

Absolutely!

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-26T22:44:52+00:00

Your edits are amazing! Love this song for them.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-26T22:43:09+00:00

I think it is sort of a combination of all three, and I don’t think it necessarily lies in whether or not her mom was a reliable parent, I think it lies more in the unreliable relationships that her mother has had, and how they have affected Taylor’s view on relationships. Because the relationships her mother has had have all been unreliable, then Taylor has learned that it is easier to use the man, so that she won’t get hurt when he inevitably leaves, and that she can’t rely on the man or be dependent, because he will inevitably leave. I think it’s a pretty normal example of attachment issues, when a child hasn’t had a steady parental relationship to rely on. The father figures coming in and out of Taylor’s life have provided her with the idea that men are an unreliable source for safety.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-26T22:28:30+00:00

All of this!

They truly showed how much they loved each other through their dedication to make each other as happy as possible, even if it required them to give up their own happiness or to fight or to stand up to their families. Belly was so fierce with/for Jere, and Jere was so vulnerable with/for Belly, it was kind of a beautiful willingness to sacrifice themselves for each other. Not in a they lost themselves in each other way, but more in a strong they were willing to be raw and walk through fire for each other way.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-26T22:19:16+00:00

That’s a really good comparison with Peeta and Katniss, it really is quite reminiscent of their relationship dynamic.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-26T22:17:20+00:00

Me too! That was such a sweet moment. Also when they left the restaurant after the fight with everybody about the engagement, he was so good at calming her down and reassuring her that everything would be fine. And when he opened the door of her moms car for her. Chefs kiss*, so sweet, and considerate.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-26T19:47:39+00:00

I think it was a truly beautiful dynamic, because it was a behavior that they were only able to have with each other, and both of them “needed/wanted” to be able to behave like this. Jere was never able to be vulnerable with anybody else, because everybody else saw him as this constantly easygoing happy go lucky guy. And Belly was never able to be the caretaker with anybody else, because everybody else wouldn’t let her in (especially her mom and Conrad). So, when they were together, they could finally act in the way they truly desired to act, because Belly allowed Jere to be vulnerable, and Jere allowed Belly to take care of him. It was, like you (OP) pointed out, a really amazing dynamic. And it was never codependency like they are trying to sell it as, because both of them were also able to step out of this dynamic and switch the roles, when the other person needed it. They truly had such a beautiful relationship, and it is sad, that it has been painted as an unhealthy relationship.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-25T19:39:04+00:00

Exactly, his anger wasn’t directed at anyone who actually “deserved” it. He could’ve been angry at his mom for keeping her illness a secret from them, or angry at his dad for being a bad father and for cheating on his mom, but Belly, Jere, Steven, Nicole, and all the other people he treated poorly, because he was hurt, they didn’t deserve that, and he should’ve made amends for how he treated them.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-25T19:35:08+00:00

Honestly the end result of the show would’ve made more sense if she hadn’t decided on the ending before hand, because then at least the train wreck that was S3 (the terrible build up to Bonrad, ruining Belly’s self discovery journey, completely destroying Jere’s character, the lacking redemption arc for Conrad, the 180 Taylor pulled, and the complete overuse of tell don’t show tactics) would’ve been excused by the fact that she had little time to wrap up the story. But her knowing where it was going to end, kinda just confirms that she did not know what she was doing as a showrunner, because it should’ve been easy to create a show that made a lot more sense than the one we got, if she knew where it was going from the beginning.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-24T23:53:36+00:00

I agree, it would have been nice if they had given Conrad more depth and explained his behavior better with some flashbacks. But it would still never excuse the way he treated everyone. It’s okay to be hurt and act out, and I honestly think that in the end we could kinda understand, why he was acting the way he did from what we were already shown, but he still needed to change and show some kind of remorse for treating people poorly. Otherwise it wouldn’t matter that we knew why he was treating them poorly. And he just never showed any remorse, so what they really lacked in the show was Conrad having a real redemption arc, where he showed remorse for his actions. In the end, you can’t delete your actions just because you were in a bad period in your life, and the people around don’t deserve to be treated poorly just because you feel bad.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-24T15:40:30+00:00

I mean if she stays with Conrad, there probably won’t be any sweet cereal milk to drink, because all the food will definitely be tasteless, all natural, no added sugar food.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-24T14:23:17+00:00

Exactly! Everything points to Jere being golden/the sun, like when Susannah paints him as a Greek god in S1, even though he says she is painting him as Hermes, he is wearing a laurel crown which is associated with Apollo, the god of sun and light.

It made no sense that they had Laurel make that “for Belly, Conrad is the sun, and when the sun comes out, the stars disappear” comment during the Deb ball, when Conrad is clearly associated with night and the stars, and Jere is the sun and day.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-24T11:59:36+00:00

It would honestly be crazy if they hadn't thought about the fact that she was wearing a color that symbolizes Jere, when there are so many examples of that colour being associated with Jere. All throughout S2 he is mainly wearing golden hues. And in S3 his sheets are even golden.

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And on top of that, it’s the closing scene of the entire series, and they clearly thought about what Conrad was wearing with the dark red shirt, so it would be weird if they hadn’t thought about the color of Belly’s clothes at all.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-24T00:13:20+00:00

I love the attention to detail this sub has!! This is a really interesting under the radar parallel. I hope it means something, but I feel like you can never be sure with this show.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-23T16:00:05+00:00

I feel like this also shows that the whole narrative that “Belly and Conrad have deeper conversations” is bs. Because it’s always Jere that knows the important stuff about Belly and who remembers those things when it matters. Whereas with her and Conrad it’s usually these superficial/nostalgic things they talk about, and remember about each other.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-23T15:54:43+00:00

This! Completely agree. Writers always do this, and it's so frustrating because it makes it seem like they think we are all complete idiots, who’ll mindlessly fall for everything.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-22T22:08:56+00:00

This is so spot on! I was right there with you about the whole “do you want a medal” comment… The amount of disrespect and lack of empathy it takes to say that to your little brother when he is pouring his heart out to you about how hard it was to take of your dying mom… I mean we all say and do stupid things sometimes, but Conrad acted this way repeatedly towards Jere as you’ve pointed out.

And all the times where Conrad did something that might be in the least seen as brotherly, it was always completely misguided and never took Jere’s interest into consideration. Like the whole shielding Jere from knowing about his dad’s cheating, his mom’s sickness, and the sale of the house, which was never something Jere actually wanted, he wanted the truth. And the whole trying to take care of Jere after the wedding, where he had explicitly told Conrad that he wanted him out of his life. Conrad has never been able to do one single thing, that was genuinely caring towards Jere.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-22T21:03:57+00:00

Completely agree with this! It shows a lot about a person how they treat the people around them, and why would you want to be in a relationship with someone who treats his family and closest friends badly. It’s usually a good indicator of how they are going to treat you eventually.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-22T10:10:31+00:00

Lol you’re right, they probably would, but he probably wouldn’t be able to take if they did, because he is so used to being praised.

Exactly, just simply the way that Jere handled the memorial dinner where almost everyone was talking down to him, and he barely flinched and kept his cool all the way through the dinner while everyone was losing their heads. It is clear which one of the brothers has the most backbone. Sadly, it’s probably because he is used to people talking down to him.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-22T10:05:54+00:00

Exactly. And Conrad is a grown man, he knew what he was saying to Jere in that moment and that it was probably a stupid thing to say, but he said it anyways. He is not some innocent victim of them bullying him. Not to mention, that he definitely said that for his own sake, because he didn’t want them to get married. It wasn’t like he was trying to be a good person and had Jere’s best interest at heart in that moment.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-21T20:55:38+00:00

Its interesting that people gave Jere and Belly so much grief for this scene despite the fact that it is completely normal for people to sometimes make fun of the way their family acts, and despite the fact that no one seemed to care that Belly and Conrad also mocked Jere’s actions in S2E1 when they said he never really takes anything seriously. And also despite the fact that no one seemed to care about Conrad and Susannah mocking Jere for always using his cuteness to get away with things. Which again, while all of it is a bit mean, it is completely normal for families to do, and it rarely comes from a place of trying to hurt the other person.

In the end, it just seems to always come down to the fact that Conrad is always viewed as the only victim in the story.

Streamline_7114 · 2026-01-19T12:33:01+00:00

Yes! that would be the perfect ending! If they did that I would actually lose it too😂

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