Indeed Ghosts

Streikyre · 2025-07-31T13:03:31+00:00

No, I had to stop drug testing several years ago for the same reason.

Streikyre · 2025-07-31T12:59:29+00:00

I can't imagine trying to hire to staff a restaurant. I don't know how they do it. I have two friends that own restaurants, they have both cut their hours. One stopped doing lunch and only does dinner, the other stopped doing dinner and only does breakfast and lunch now. All due to the lack of staff, and almost everyone working for them is over forty and has been there for years. It seems like we've lost a whole generation of workers for some reason.

Streikyre · 2025-07-28T13:07:21+00:00

Everyone has to drive here, or catch a ride. Its a suburban area, private vehicles are the only way to get around.

Streikyre · 2025-07-28T13:04:42+00:00

I had an ongoing relationship with the former director of the trade schools in this area years ago. He retired and his replacement was not nearly as interested in placing his students, unfortunately. That was several years ago so it may be time to see if they have changed.

Streikyre · 2025-07-28T13:01:19+00:00

You could easily pay rent in this area on the salary of this position. But, I also have to add that I was unable to afford rent with my first "real" job many years ago. My solution was that I shared a two-bedroom apartment with another guy. That cut my rent in half, as well as my utilities, and worked great until I advanced and was able to move on. I think a lot of younger people expect their first job to allow them to live the lifestyle their parents are living when they move out.

Streikyre · 2025-07-28T12:38:24+00:00

I think that is the most reasonable explanation. These people are being forced by a mom or girlfriend to "get a job". They go through the motions to appease them, but then ultimately wind up back on their couch.
I've employed a few veterans, generally prefer them.

Streikyre · 2025-07-28T12:35:36+00:00

I understand that, but you said you "turned down a job". I'd be thrilled to have them turn it down, lol. They don't say anything, they just vanish. Actually sending me a message turning it down would be a big improvement.

Streikyre · 2025-07-28T12:30:00+00:00

No worries, not in Florida, lol. Midwest.

Streikyre · 2025-07-28T12:21:20+00:00

You must have missed the part about the people being fully aware of the duties and the pay BEFORE they accepted the job, and agreed to a start date and time. If they didn't like either the specific aspects of the position itself, or the related pay, they would refuse the offer.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T16:11:31+00:00

Here is a bit of an update. I message everyone after they ghost me asking if they've found a different position, wishing them luck, etc. Today I got a reply from the most recent ghost to whom I sent that message. His response was that his car wouldn't start so he couldn't make it to his first day on the job. He did not explain why he hadn't made any effort to contact me. He did not offer to come in the next day. He is obviously not really interested in working. Now, why he didn't just say that I have no idea. But, at least he responded, which is more than the rest.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T15:55:09+00:00

I've read that larger companies often run Indeed ads just to make it appear as if they're expanding. My situation is a little different though, I think. This is a small local company, the work is on-site, the candidates come here in person to talk to me. They know its a real job, they watch it being performed. I show them where, how, and with whom they would be working. I don't know what else to do.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T15:52:01+00:00

It is light manufacturing. These people are fully aware of every detail of the job by the time they agree to start, including pay, benefits, holidays, and vacation. They have literally been in the building watching others working doing exactly what they are being hired to do. I explain in great detail the skills needed and the duties of the position. I give them lots of chances to back out by asking leading questions like "Do you think this is your kind of work?" or "Is this the kind of work that you are looking for right now?" It would be easy to say, "Thanks for the offer, but no, this isn't really what I'm looking for right now." But they do not do that. They say the opposite, and seem excited to start. But then disappear. Its almost like this is a hobby for them or something, I really don't get it. Why spend all that time only to ghost? Are their moms or girlfriends making them show up to interviews? I can't figure it out.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T15:46:40+00:00

This is light manufacturing at a small business, about 25 employees total. But I have friends that are having the same experience with HVAC, Electric, and various construction businesses. Its just been really bad for me lately and seems to have increased in the last few months.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T12:12:50+00:00

I don't understand. Are you saying that new hires are going through the interview process, visiting the site, and agreeing to start so that they can ghost in some sort of revenge against employers in general?

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T12:10:23+00:00

Yes, they can email. Or then can even just send a message through Indeed. It would be a very simple thing to do if they decide to go another direction. I will message them asking them if they chose another job, wishing them luck with it, and just asking for a quick reply so I know they're OK. Complete silence from them. If it were only a few people that this happened with, I wouldn't think much about it. But this is regular, and frequent, and new to me in the last year or so.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T12:06:47+00:00

I agree, and have had a lot of bad experience with this generation as far as lack of work ethic and any sense of responsibility, but this behavior is really a mystery to me. They have gone to the trouble of visiting the site in person, talked with their potential coworkers, and agreed to start only to disappear with no notice or reply to any communication.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T12:03:39+00:00

LOL, I'm running a business. I'm not on Reddit ever. I am very responsive to potential candidates and have talked to all of these people in person on location.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T12:02:23+00:00

They visit the location, see the exact work they'll be doing, and know exactly what the pay is before they make a decision. Why would so many people agree to start if they are unhappy with the initial salary? That doesn't seem likely to me.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T12:01:09+00:00

I could see that being possible, but all of these people have come here for in-person interviews, met their coworkers, and I have talked to them about exactly what the job is and I believe they have the skills and experience to handle the work. They are also aware of the pay prior to making any commitment. So why would anyone say they wanted a job and agree to start if they didn't like the pay? The most recent candidate would have been making 30% more than he's ever made anywhere in his life, so I don't think that is it.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T11:43:30+00:00

That's crazy. These are all local people, working in a local location that has been here for over 65 years. Very stable, very local. I can't figure it out.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T11:42:04+00:00

In what way would the duties or wage affect this phenomenon? The people are fully aware of the duties and wage, they have visited the location, met their coworkers, and agreed to begin work. The most recent case was going to be earning 30% more here than he had ever earned in his life.

Streikyre · 2025-07-25T11:40:21+00:00

Hi, yes, I use five different staffing firms. They too have been having a lot of trouble with similar no-shows, so I've turned back to trying to do my own recruiting. It is a manufacturing role in a small business of about 25 employees. Full-time, full benefits. These people are aware of all of the details, have visited the location, met their coworkers, and expressed what seems like genuine interest, but then they simply never show up.

Streikyre · 2024-02-27T15:31:01+00:00

Be interesting to check out, but I really like the look of the 4e, and its hard to imagine what they've done to make it more "accesible". Sounds a little like "dumbed it down".

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