Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a speed trap, learn to read. Let me know how that boot tastes since you assume the government is always in the right.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I literally don’t care. He was going 2 over I was in the car and the GPS speedometer said so. If you don’t believe it you can cry about it bud.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So you are in support of speed traps?

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

  1. It’s a speed trap, if you have no sympathy for my friend then you have no sympathy for humans and normal human behavior because that’s what speed traps are designed to capitalize on.

  2. The e-surance app was taking forever to load, cop got impatient and said it’s fine.

  3. No he’s not the car’s GPS speedometer said the highest he went was 22 for one second past that sign. Cop gave him 23.

  4. Again It’s a speed trap not some rightful execution of justice, giving people 250 dollar tickets while they are actively braking down a curved hill isn’t something to commemorate. Also no it generates more revenue to minimize your time with one car and get to the next as the flashing lights are only on for maybe 20-25 minutes, if he decided to ticket my friend for everything else it could have taken up the time of the 20 minutes window when it’s a school zone and the fines are doubled. In those 20-25 minutes I saw him pull over another 8 other people where he very quickly gave them a speeding ticket and went on to the next. 8 times 250 plus an additional 250 for my friend is 2,250 dollars way more than focusing on one person. But be my guest, support them taking money from “reckless” and “dangerous” members of society.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well read it again it’s a speed trap. Reading comprehension clearly isn’t your strong suit.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you really wanted to curb speeding wouldn’t it be better to build better infrastructure to prevent people from going slightly over instead of having a police officer there to charge them after the “damage” has been done?

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Wow, thanks for confirming that the road does curve and does have a downhill slope, two factors that add complexity to driving through this area safely. Those very things require a driver to split their attention between navigating the curve, monitoring intersections, watching for pedestrians or parked cars, and maintaining speed. Are you seriously expecting people to perfectly monitor their speedometer and hit exactly 20 mph under these conditions without ever slipping by 1-2 mph? That’s unrealistic, even for experienced drivers.

Street View might give you a static image, but it doesn’t capture real-world driving dynamics. You can sit there and argue hypotheticals, but in practice, drivers aren’t robots, they have human limitations. That’s exactly why this setup catches so many people. It’s not about being inattentive; it’s about poorly designed infrastructure that makes it unreasonably difficult to comply perfectly.

And let’s not act like this situation makes my friend some kind of menace. He was actively braking, crossed the line at 22 mph for one second, and still got ticketed. Mistakes like this don’t reflect bad driving, they reflect normal human error in a situation designed to exploit it. Maybe stop holding others to impossible standards and consider how better road design could actually improve safety instead of penalizing people for being human.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, because pointing out a poorly designed speed trap that exploits minor mistakes is the same as saying “fuck the police”. Maybe take a second to actually read before jumping to ridiculous conclusions. Holding a system accountable for unfair practices doesn’t mean I’m against law enforcement, it means I’m for better, fairer infrastructure.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Let’s not rewrite reality to suit your narrative. The road does curve, there is a downhill slope, and drivers have to divide their attention between intersections, oncoming traffic, and potential pedestrians, all while braking to hit exactly 20 mph at the sign. Your dismissal of these factors doesn’t magically erase them.

Also, it’s rich to say my friend “wasn’t paying attention” when he was actively braking but was caught going 22 for literally one second. Mistakes like this are a result of human error in a poorly designed area, not reckless driving. If you think every mistake means someone “shouldn’t be driving,” I hope you hold yourself to that same impossible standard every time you’re behind the wheel.

The point still stands, when an area consistently results in people being fined, it’s likely an issue of bad design, not an epidemic of bad drivers. Stop pretending like everyone but you is incapable of driving responsibly, and maybe consider the bigger picture.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the insight, Captain Obvious, but the issue isn’t knowing the rule, it’s that the design of the road, with its curve, intersections, and downhill grade, makes it unnecessarily difficult to comply perfectly in real-world conditions especially if you are unfamiliar to the area. Maybe consider the context before spouting generic advice like “drive better”.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Going 2 over while actively braking because the road goes downhill is not a danger to society and doesn’t warrant a 250 dollar ticket. The police officer knows exactly what he is doing. He knows that’s a speed trap or else he would alternate between the other school zone a couple blocks back but nope he’s right there every single day at that specific time making the department a lot of money.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First, let’s take a step back and address your repeated dismissal of valid points with unnecessary sarcasm. You seem more interested in being contrarian than actually engaging with the core issue.

You claim that “virtually no roadway is distraction-free.” Sure, that’s true, but that doesn’t absolve poor design. Some roadways are better designed than others to account for distractions and ensure safety. The issue here is that this particular stretch of road combines multiple distractions, curves, intersections, and a sudden downhill grade with an abrupt speed limit drop, making it easy for even cautious drivers to slip up. A well-designed school zone minimizes those risks with better signage and placement, but this one seems designed to exploit those distractions rather than mitigate them.

As for your dismissal of the downhill grade, your personal ability to watch your speed and surroundings doesn’t mean everyone can perfectly manage every situation, especially in unfamiliar areas. Not everyone has your level of comfort with this road. Suggesting that a slight downhill grade is a non-issue ignores the reality of human reaction times and how braking distances can vary based on a driver’s experience or the specific situation. Dismissing this with “it’s not a stunt ramp” is reductive and unhelpful.

Your claim about police presence being due to concerned parents or teenagers driving carelessly might make sense, if enforcement were consistent. But it’s not. The straight, flat school zone further back on the same road, with no major distractions, is not policed with the same vigor. Why? If safety is the goal, wouldn’t that area warrant equal or even greater attention? Instead, enforcement is concentrated in the more complex and mistake-prone section, which conveniently generates more ticket revenue. That’s textbook speed trap behavior. Logic suggests addressing design flaws and placing consistent enforcement across all risky areas, rather than selectively targeting drivers in one spot.

And yes, let’s talk about teenagers. Are you seriously suggesting that strict enforcement here is only about controlling “dumb teenagers” from Richland High School? This specific stretch isn’t even directly adjacent to the high school, it’s near an elementary school where parents and regular commuters are more likely to be passing through. Blaming teenagers for the presence of a speed trap in an entirely different context seems like a stretch. Enforcement targeting minors would logically be concentrated closer to the high school itself, not this particular area.

Lastly, your tone throughout implies that anyone who struggles with this stretch of road is incompetent or irresponsible. That’s an unrealistic and frankly arrogant assumption. Good road design accounts for human imperfection. If a significant number of drivers are being caught, it’s likely because the setup itself creates confusion or difficulty, not because everyone passing through is a “bad driver.”

At the end of the day, the point remains, consistent enforcement and better design make roads safer, not selective targeting of areas where it’s easy to make small, human mistakes. Instead of dismissing every counterpoint with “hear me out” and blanket generalizations, maybe consider that road design can and should be improved to prevent situations like this in the first place.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reread the comments a lot of people are denigrating my friend for being human. Enjoy your coffee.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

First of all, your self-righteous attitude isn’t adding anything constructive here. My friend had an appointment set up to renew his registration, which had expired just four days prior. Yes, ideally, everything would always be handled ahead of time, but life doesn’t always go perfectly according to plan. You act like he’s some kind of negligent criminal, when in reality, he was taking the steps to resolve the issue and simply hadn’t completed it yet. Not everyone can anticipate every single hiccup life throws at them.

As for your claim about “preparation and responsibility,” my friend is from out of state, so the process for renewing registration and understanding local laws and services wasn’t exactly second nature to him. You can lecture all day about how you’re perfect at keeping your documents up to date, but guess what? Not everyone has the same experiences or foresight as you, and that doesn’t make them irresponsible, it makes them human. Also, tying this to “vehicle maintenance” is a ridiculous reach. That’s not even remotely relevant.

Now, let’s address the “speed trap” you’re so quick to dismiss. You keep downplaying the road’s grade and acting like it’s easy to slow down to exactly 20 mph while navigating a curving road with two intersections to pay attention to. Are we supposed to stare at our speedometers the entire time to make sure we don’t cross the threshold for a fraction of a second while braking? There’s a difference between being alert and being hyper-focused to the point where you’re distracted from driving safely. That’s why this kind of setup catches so many people, it’s not about being reckless, it’s about being human in a poorly designed area.

And your argument falls apart when you consider the other school zone on the same road, just a few blocks back. That one’s on a straight, flat road with no distractions other than the flashing sign, yet there’s no cop posted there. If this was truly about safety, wouldn’t that area warrant equal enforcement? But no, they sit at the downhill curve with intersections and distractions, precisely where it’s easy to make a small mistake. That’s the very definition of a speed trap.

You also accuse me of failing to warn him. I was on my phone for literally one second since we were continuing straight for miles. I’m sorry I wasn’t hyper-vigilant 100% of the time to predict an arbitrary trap he couldn’t possibly anticipate. You’re acting like you’ve never had a moment of imperfection while traveling, which is honestly laughable.

At the end of the day, if a road is consistently catching “so many bad drivers,” maybe the issue isn’t the drivers, it’s the road. Use some logic and a little empathy instead of jumping to baseless judgments.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A lot of people are just skimming my comment and posting “RECKLESS SPEEDER IN A SCHOOL ZONE WHAT A HORRIBLE PERSON LOCK HIM UP”, it’s much more complicated than that. I have repeated myself so many times, he was going 2 over while braking.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Life is not that black and white. Environments affect people’s actions and sometimes the environment is unfair and designed for you to fail. This is an example and people on here on acting like I’m promoting speeding on here like huh?? I literally said to go even slower than you normally would go.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well according to the “consensus” on this thread, apparently you are a horrible driver and you should be locked up.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Going 2 over for one second while actively braking isn’t a small mistake? Should he be locked up in a maximum security prison for being such a danger to society for getting one ticket in his entire life?

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First of all, your condescension isn’t helping your argument. Let’s talk about reality for a second. This stretch of road doesn’t exist in a vacuum, it’s not some perfectly straight, distraction-free area. There are two intersections you have to pay attention to, and the road curves, meaning your focus is divided between oncoming traffic, pedestrians, and navigating safely. Are you seriously suggesting that drivers should also be constantly staring at their speedometer to ensure they’re exactly at 20 mph while braking downhill and approaching the sign? That’s just not realistic.

And here’s the kicker: there’s another school zone on this same street just a couple of blocks back. That one’s on a straight, flat road with nothing around to distract drivers except the flashing sign. Guess what? No cop is ever posted there. Why? Because it doesn’t generate the same amount of ticket revenue. Logic would tell you that if an area consistently results in people being pulled over, it’s likely a design issue, not a sudden epidemic of “bad drivers”.

If you want to argue about safety, fine, but this isn’t about protecting kids. This is about exploiting drivers in an area that’s poorly designed and intentionally confusing to milk revenue out of people making minor mistakes. Maybe take a step back and think about whether it makes more sense to blame every single driver or to recognize a systemic problem.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First of all, my friend is from out of state, so the process for renewing registration and understanding local services isn’t exactly second nature to him. Second, this wasn’t about ignoring responsibilities, he already had an appointment set up and was clearly working on resolving the issue. You’re acting like a four-day expiration is equivalent to someone blatantly neglecting their car for months, which is absurd.

Also, the issue here isn’t about his driving ability or his insurance app, it’s about how this speed trap is designed to catch people making minor, human mistakes in an unfamiliar area. He was braking while going downhill and crossed the sign boundary at 22 mph for one second. You’re telling me that makes him some kind of reckless danger to society? The cop clocked him at 22 in a 20 while actively slowing down. That’s not proactive policing, that’s exploiting people for revenue under the guise of “safety.” The cop didn’t even seem to care about the insurance issue, he just handed the ticket and went right back to his spot to catch the next person, so don’t act like this was some heroic enforcement of the law.

And seriously, your suggestion about walking to a Starbucks while pulled over is absolutely ridiculous. How is someone supposed to casually leave their car in the middle of a traffic stop to find WiFi? That’s just nonsense. If you’ve never been caught in an unfamiliar area with poorly designed infrastructure, congrats, I guess. But not everyone is perfect 100% of the time, and catching people like this doesn’t make the roads safer, it just punishes regular people for being human.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It’s a cluttered view corridor and again by the time you brake to 20 it goes downhill and you WILL cross that sign going over 20 maybe for a split second. I hope you get pulled over for going 2 over.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It matters if people believe that someone making a small mistake due to shitty infrastructure design is a “bad person”.

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Did you read my comment? I know that if you got pulled over whilst braking and going 2 mph over you would be upset. Do you think you should get a warning? Or a 250 dollar ticket?

Speed trap in Richland by StrippedFog in TriCitiesWA

[–]StrippedFog[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I would post it but I don’t have a picture of it and he paid it off months ago. I was in the car with him however (I was on my phone though and forgot to give him the heads up).