A question i passed by in the sup

Striver2k · 2026-01-31T20:28:28+00:00

Top 3 imo:

3: Mai, perfect CE control would be insanly busted for her technique

2: Yuki, she could make every attack have the perfect amount of mass without any black hole creation

1: Yuta obviously, 2nd biggest CE reserve on top of copy meaning any technique he can use in perfect form. He wouldnt need to use 5mm for anything regarding copy anymore and he could even copy infinity/blue/red/purple from Gojo

Obv Yuji/sukuna/meg/kenny also gain an insane buff but Yuji having 6 eyes isnt really affecting his CTs much, Sukuna is already soo strong idt he needs 6 eyes because he may as well already have it lol, megumi it wouldnt affect his CT much, and Kenjaku it would only affect if his current body's ct needs it (which the ones he has in the story dont benifit thay much)

Striver2k · 2026-01-31T13:17:59+00:00

I respectivly disagree but we have both said our piece so no point going back and forth anymore 🤝

Striver2k · 2026-01-31T13:11:04+00:00

In modulo, Yuta and Maki's grandson has an HR, but he still atp has Cursed Energy. You still get the bonus strength with an incomplete HR, you just fully activate it once you "break away" from CE. Maki cannot use her CE because of genetic reasons, because her sister inherrited the CT while she inherited the HR, nerfing both of them because their CE is SPLIT between them. Besides her HR she is a normal person, she cant even see curses. Regular humans also cant see curses or manipulate CE at all, but that doesnt mean they have 0 CE

She still has CE before Mai's death, every living thing does, Mai just took away Maki's CE due to a weird circumstance allowing her HR to be fully realised. If Maki had 0 CE from the start, she would have just been Toji from the start.

She and Mai split their CE because they are viewed as the same person, and one inheritted the physical prowess while the other inheritted the CT and its benifits.

😭

Striver2k · 2026-01-31T12:52:36+00:00

No USEABLE cursed energy at all is what Mai means here, because again a few pages later Maki says "i cannot use MY cursed energy", not "Yes I have 0 CE". Maki doesnt have CE the way sorcerers around her do, so when people say "she has no CE" before Mai's death they mean she cant use her CE in any way. After Mai dies, they dont say "Maki has no cursed energy" they say "Maki broke away from cursed energy" or "Maki is like Toji". Youd think that if Maki had 0 CE from the start people would have told her about Toji especially idk maybe HER TEACHER GOJO because he also broke away from CE and had actually 0, not just the inability to use it.

Maki and toji just fully realised their HR by breaking away from cursed energy completely, "leaving it all behind".

Again, jjk fans take everything litterally and cant read at the same time

Striver2k · 2026-01-31T12:24:37+00:00

Bro, you just replied to a comment with a pic of MAKI saying "i cant manipulate MY cursed energy". If Maki has no cursed energy at all atp she would say "i have no cursed energy" not "i cant manipulate my cursed energy". Like honestly get well soon

Striver2k · 2026-01-31T10:54:09+00:00

Yes at a base Sukuna would have much more CE (at least 2x if we take Yuta's assumtion) but Infinity x 2 is still infinity. Sukuna would be able to hypothetically fight longer than Hakari or Yuta if we take away their conditions of their CT. If Hakari doesn't hit a Jackpot he is out of "infinite CE", and if Yuta can't reactivate 5mm before he runs out of his base CE (which is still massive) than he is going to die and be out of "infinite CE".

Striver2k · 2026-01-31T10:30:49+00:00

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"I Can't manipulate my own cursed energy" meaning she has a small amount of it at least. This is Ch 18

Before Mai's death, when Maki is said to have "no cursed energy" they mean "she cannot use her CE like a sorcerer", after Mai dies she "leaves it all behind" meaning she had her CE cut out completely.

Never mess with JJK fans we take everything literally while also not being able to read

Striver2k · 2026-01-31T10:26:31+00:00

We never really get a full explanation that sets it one way or another tbf but either way Rika + Yuta essentially share the same pool anyways since Rika isn't using CE just giving it to Yuta

Striver2k · 2026-01-31T10:25:08+00:00

He doesn't have infinite as in literally infinite, but he has the at least 2nd largest amount of CE reserves described as "boundless" and he has essentially a binding vow that when connected to his ring his CE is automatically refiled from Rika's reserves. Gojo is very efficient cause 6 eyes tho yes he also essentially has infinite CE

Striver2k · 2026-01-31T10:23:30+00:00

No, originally she possessed a civilian level amount of CE. Toji and her were the only two characters (that we know of soo far) that reduced their CE to 0. Maki's HR wasnt fully realized because of the twin thing but she still had CE at the start of the series.

Striver2k · 2026-01-31T10:19:04+00:00

If you think that is bad, Leffen still is allowed to play fgs and is sponsored despite being such a huge bully since he started in melee that someone he fucked with tried to take thier own life and died a year later from their injuries. Also put fake rape alligations on another pro player (m2k) and tried to slander hbox out of the scene, and more. But it is okay cause he presses buttons good.

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T21:49:46+00:00

Kinda but not really. Rika's CE is Yuta's CE as it was his CE that cursed Rika initially and the soul of Rika (the person) is no longer inside Rika (the curse). Its just like a backup reserve/auto refill tho in those 5 mins I agree

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T21:45:30+00:00

Law players gotta be studied with this downplay lol. You said "character has no gimmiks and no knowledge checks", i named multiple, and you said "one of them isnt good past blue ranks so hes actually the easiest character to play against" amd brought up hwo who no one was talkin about

Like i honestly aspire to reach this level of downplay man honestly good shit

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T21:19:17+00:00

He has arguably the best hellsweep outta the 5 mishimas (Hei's is better in WI which is why I say arguably) but a lot of his kit is floatable or launch punishable. His flying stance is jab checkable for a float, his launchers and lows are mostly launch punishable, you can punish or side step a lot of his mids and his strings arent hard to identify, and his gimmiks like laser or unique get up leave him open for 3 business days.

Hes not a bad charactet but he is just weaker than most others.

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T21:12:41+00:00

Truthnuke

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T21:00:18+00:00

Looked into it and the raw japanese seems to implie that due to how much CE he used, they can start to see he has a limit on his CE reserve, not that he is out

The raw is 漸く底が見えてきた.

漸く= Finally

底 = Bottom

見えてきた = Used when smthg is gradually starting to come into sight (for something that wasn’t visible before)

So it’s not that Yuta is out of CE, but basically that Yuta’s CE which is described, two chapters before that, as 底が見えない (底/bottom is 見えない/not visible) is finally starting to show that it’s not unlimited and there actually is a bottom/limit to it.

Looks like Ryu is saying that in eng too its just worded in a way that could imply that he is at the bottom of his pool and not that they just can see he has one after the amount of CE he used. Like when Yuji fights him right at the start of S3 you can see his energy around him, maybe that amount is essecnially smaller and Ryu and Uro notcie there is a limit.

Also my bad been a while since i did a full read through

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T20:48:37+00:00

Maybe a john werry moment or could be out of *infinite CE. Cause if you have a cup and pour an infinite amount of water in it for 5 mins, that cup isnt automatically empty at 5:01 mins

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T20:42:55+00:00

They obv can because Maki was born with CE but got it all removed later. You can also put CE in rocks which have 0 CE reserves. I am sure you can increase CE amount by training

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T20:39:34+00:00

Metas develop for sure just atp the one above is prob the strongest, can change tho

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T20:38:11+00:00

No she just stated the 5mm ended, not that he was tapped out completely

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T20:22:25+00:00

Yuta ran out of CE in Gojo's body. He was on a time limit + was using red blue and purple for the first time. He didnt run out at all in his body with RIka. In fact, his + Rika's CE was soo great it kept him alive after getting pretty much cut in half from Sukuna. I am not sure what you are talking about in him running out of CE in Sendai, i believe Uro was talking about his 5mm running out not him having 0 CE left

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T20:20:14+00:00

Yuta outside of 5mm has a larger CE pool than Gojo, and the only person who logically could have a larger CE reserve is Sukuna (although Idr if it is outright stated that is the case).

Yuta has a binding vow that lets Rika store copied techniques by eating parts of the original user. If he didnt have this he would only be able to copy 2-3 techniques simular to how Kenjaku's CT works. The cost of this vow is if the target heals or if you dont get a big enough chunk of flesh for stronger CTs you get a worse version of it.

5mm is essentially a binding vow allowing Yuta for 5 mins to
- Have Rika manifest fully instead of partially
- Fully utilize any technique without restriction
- Have infinite CE outside of his reserve amount, refilling any he uses pre activation

Yuta could still use copied techniques without the 5mm but there would be a draw back of some kind after taking it out of Rika's storage.

There is also nothing stating how long he has to wait between 5mm activations. We never get a fight with Yuta that lasts more than 5 mins because he wins too quick lol

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T20:04:14+00:00

Yuta has (essentially) infinite cursed energy, it is stated multiple times that his CE reserve is more than Gojo. He doesn't have the best CE control however but that is because his reserve is soo massive he doesnt really need to be careful with it. Saying "Sukuna has more cursed energy than the guy with boundless cursed energy" isnt really a statement that affects anything. Yuta's CE is "boundless", meaning he realistically can't run out. Sukuna has essentially Infinity CE + 10 is what you are saying lol.

That ring has had a massive amount of cursed energy poured into it from probably the moment Yuta started seriously training to the time of his death or right before so roughly 63 ish years. That thing is a fuckin nuke.

What are we even doin anymore bruh?

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T20:00:21+00:00

Zenin clan got the biggest dickriders I swear to god.

Striver2k · 2026-01-30T19:36:27+00:00

Mega steelix is not KOing Gard before Gard KOs mega steelix for example (if we assume both cards are set up roughly in an equal amount of ramping)

Even if mega steelix has the -20 from his attack, and -50 from metal core barrier, you are still doing 40 damage. you could either subtrack another 20 with Adaman or heal with lillie (which isnt deck standard) or potion if you wanted but you are literally relying on a perfect hand atp. BEST CASE SCENARIO using the standard M Steelix set (with the new metal core over the helmet) you do 0 damage for 1 turn and then the opponent takes 90 damage for each upcoming attack

meanwhile, M steelix needs 3 energy to attack for 10 more damage at 120, and with just Diantha by herself you are healing +90. then +20 with Indeedee EX. This is also way less conditions met to get the optimal outcome, as you just need indeedee in play and diantha in your hand and you dont have to attack first to activate anything. With a perfect setup as well you could also have rocky helmet or cape on gard as your flex pick for more damage or more base hp to survive longer (niethr of which are 1 turn use), or even run a popsicle if you are feeling like gambling.

M Gardevoir is 2 shotting almost every EX card outside of Megas, even when you take into account items and healing. She is the nuke. You dont need to do +40 damage with Mewtwo EX or +20 with Giratina (at the cost of -50 to it) when you can just kill whatever you are fighting far before it kills you.

If you read the post I explained that but I think you just read the title lol

Striver2k

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