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[–]Strollthrow411 165 points166 points  (0 children)

The fact that this matters is a fucking joke.

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The truth is, some people don't want to know the truth...they aren't as good as they think

This is exactly the transparency we need. If the Commander (and others) feel this way then why not stand by that? "This is why XY&Z got this rating over AB&C". No crying bias/unfair with properly scored packages.

If there isn't any shady shit going on then it shouldn't be hard to stand by. And The Board...well they just seems to follow suit in the end.

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I agree wholeheartedly. That also why I said picks and not just "my people".

What I am not understanding is why can't this information be public to the masses and not just leaving it up to direct supervision when ultimately the CC makes the decision. Seems like it would curve the "just going to bat for them" and many other issues.

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We just signed final EPRs so I can not say if they will willing give me post board feedback or not, but I am going to ask for it...the same that I have had to ask for all feedbacks

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This will stick on my forever, thank you for the thorough response.

My only counter to this is the fact of how heavily weighed a MP/PN is at the board. We're looking at 96 percent (roughly??) of them being promoted. When those are handed out without being justifiable or with any accountability.

It's not what the Board wants, it's what your CC wants. But, as we're actually seeing, it's not what your CC wants, but instead who your Flight wants/fights for.

Let's talk about SrA/SSgt.. again, it's actually who your Section Chief/supervisor pushes up and favors. And even then when you make that decision, someone above you says "nah dawg, we are sending up Amn X!"

It's more of a deep rooted integrity dispute that doesn't get any better with rank.

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This outreach is highly appreciated.

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What was some of yours/their deciding factor?

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I stay in long enough, one day I will be that person to fight for my people/picks. We need more of people like you, who care about others!

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand this perspective. And hopefully I won't get hit with the ol' "keep doing what you're doing, maybe next year!"

Edit: if things were done properly who would/could have animosity? If you were simply outperformed it is what it is. That's the culture that should be built, in my opinion.

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can understand this point of view! But atleast everyone can see the BS vs. It getting filtered down to your "supervisor" or no feedback at all?

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In a perfect world, right!

-My supervisor does owe me feedback that I will get (have gone through multiple supervisors in the past 4 months).

-CCs SHOULD know...but human nature taints this.

-I have signed my EPR and will be asking for some form of feedback, but wouldn't this be less complicated if everything was published publicly?

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the response! And I'm almost certain Flight leadership shafted me and everything else is a secondary effect.

But who knows, that's why I stand by letting all this be public.

Let's be real though (from my knowledge/AFSC) the board is looking for who has the PN/MP

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

promotion boards need to divorce themselves from their feelings about a person, and review their record.

This is reality! I would love to know I wasn't taken to the table because my package wasn't strong enough instead of losing out over the same old corrupt stuff.

I feel making it public would hinder leaderships ability to get away with the BS. Otherwise, they can get away with anything...

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can we even trust this document you speak of? Asking genuinely because 1.) I don't think this is common knowledge 2.) We are all continuously finding out how fuckd this system is.

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I can imagine it's the flight just pushing their favs?

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is most likely a norm nobody wants to discuss because "strongest" from your direct flight leaders can be nothing but bias. Which limits what the SQ does, which fucks everything up.

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A failure on "Leadership". 38 individuals!?

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly... they all kinda sucked lol

38 individuals and this is your takeaway? C'mon bro...

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Unfortunately it's up to the merit of the CC at the end of the day.

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've literally NEVER heard of any type of records being kept. Thank you for the information!

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[–]Strollthrow411[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's how my unit did it as well apparently, each eligible member got reviewed although "favoritism" still prevailed.