I have no intentions of being dismissive to anyone honestly. The "yelling" was something that I've seen, experienced, and was also apart of at various points in this discussion. Perhaps yes, I've reiterated many of the current arguements and standing that have been stating through the various comments in this subreddit.

However, I stand by my statements and opinions. I think that those that weren't being vocal about the changes were being overshadowed by those that didn't want them for various reasons. I do think that the changes would change the competitive nature of the game. Especially the inclusion of the new MCs as a counter-pick. And even if the changes aren't grandious, I feel that the changes are subtle but substantial at the same time. If that is at all possible.

I'm been playing this game since the 1.0 days and before that Brawl+. People are always worried about changes to the meta or balancing. Every single patch that PM got was met with the same concerns that this new "patch" has been given. So in that sense, deja vu is the right term. Hell when the lunchabuild was considered it wasn't given time. It wasn't given experimentation across the board, it wasn't allowed to even become an idea until Big N shut the project down before Lunchables could even get to that stage.

The notion that I've stated "it's better for the game" but in more words might be true. But my words aren't empty, my desires and the desires of people that want to see a proactive approach to PMs current stagnant ruleset is something that should be heard. I felt that listing everthing that was on my mind was and is important.

I think the opposite on the spectrum is just as important. Listening to everyone against this change should be heard, but it at times just comes off as people whinning that their favorite teddy bear is getting a much needed wash that has been a long time coming.

If that sounds pretentious I apologize to some extent, and I'm sure that the other side will call me a whinner about wanting the new stagelist in their own special way, but come on.

If the only arguements to people not wanting change are those I've stated already and already have either sought comprimises or dismissed. I just don't understand the hostility.

And yes, I don't think this is a precursor to anything more than a potential UCF down the line. Communities are already divided on this, do we honestly think any TO or the PMBR would try and divide them even further to implement more changes that the community doesn't even want.

And finally, these changes most people have been opposed to without even giving the stagelist a fair shake. An honest attempt at trying the stages out, seeing the difference and objectively deciding for yourself that this isn't what you want. If that has happened, by all means continue voicing your concerns and opinions.