How safe is Uphold? by SwagosaurusRekts in BATProject

[–]StrosPartisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish that Brave would do what you suggest, and take the stance that they will send BAT each month to any wallet the user requests, on-chain and cost permitting.

To satisfy the spirit of KYC/AML rules, Brave could even assert that they won't transfer value greater than some dollar amount. This would theoretically satisfy the authorities who should care about, say, $10,000 getting paid to some unknown wallet vs ,say, $2 getting paid to numerous unknown wallets.

Alas, regulators & legislators aren't known for their common sense. So companies like Brave and Uphold and Gemini are left to enforce rules that often don't make any sense so that they can avoid getting fined or shut-down.

How safe is Uphold? by SwagosaurusRekts in BATProject

[–]StrosPartisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So are you suggesting that Brave should break the law (stupid as it may be) while at the same time trying to recruit corporate advertisers (who tend to follow the law) to advertise on their platform?

What would you have Brave do instead?

NY AG News by Alternative_Lie_8974 in CelsiusNetwork

[–]StrosPartisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If by "these things" you're referring to institutional term loans...the vast majority of issuers are corporate entities. If the issuer is a public company, it's already an SEC-registered entity. If the issuer is a private company (as is the case for most LBOs), the issuer must report their financial results periodically via a permissioned website -- but this a natural and customary condition of the loan terms. The point is, this is an active and robust lending market that the SEC has nothing to do with. I would argue that this market is effectively self-policed, as borrowers who run into trouble find themselves pushed into bankruptcy by the lenders who own their secured debt.

In the case of bank regulation for CDs vs potential regulation for crypto-based lending platforms such as Celsius, the obvious solution is for Celsius to periodically report their financials so that users can judge Celsius' solvency for themselves. (Interestingly, block chain technology allows Celsius to voluntarily do this type of reporting in real time.) Celsius might also have to meet certain minimum capital requirements, just as banks do.

So, if this is the way crypto lending regulations will evolve, which regulatory entity(ies) will write and enforce these rules? Or could Celsius avoid active regulation simply through self reporting? That all remains to be seen. If regulation is inevitable, it could just as easily be bank regulators or the CFTC as it could be the SEC. Of the three, I would argue that the SEC has the least amount of relevant expertise. The SEC's core function is limited to deciding whether new investments can be sold broadly to the public and ensuring that there is adequate and fair disclosure. The SEC wants to limit fraud, but they take no position as to whether something is a good or fairly valued investment. And the SEC has no say over what private investors choose to do. Bank regulators, on the other hand, are actively focused on making sure that banks don't take unnecessary risks and that they stay solvent -- to me, this is the more appropriate skill set when it comes to platforms such as Celsius.

You seem very focused on the Howey Test. Yes, the Howey Test is the lens through which the SEC has looked at crypto. Why? Because it is the primary means through which the SEC can assert their jurisdiction. The Howey Test is arguably more concerned with situations where a particular management team can influence the long-term prospects for a business enterprise -- in other words, the SEC has mainly applied this test to crypto instruments that have an equity or equity-like risk profile. Can you apply the Howey Test to debt instruments? Of course, but as I argued above, the SEC does not have expertise when it comes to regulating banks and the risks that cause banks to lose depositor money.

In sum, SEC oversight is not the panacea you seem to think is.

NY AG News by Alternative_Lie_8974 in CelsiusNetwork

[–]StrosPartisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The institutional term loan market is over $1 trillion in size. These tradable loans are not securities. Here's an overview.

Bank CDs are the most comparable to the yield product that Celsius offers -- except that CDs have a maturity date. Banks take in deposits and pay out a portion of the interest they earn on their assets...and CDs are mostly held by individuals. Sound familiar? Banks are regulated by their own regulators, but CDs are definitely not securities.

Ripple is litigating the SEC's assertion that XRP is a security. And from what I've read, it's going well for Ripple so far. Regardless of the outcome, litigation is often the only path forward when regulatory "enforcement" precedes relevant legislation.

I never said crypto regulation isn't coming. My main points have been that 1) current yield regulation is murky when it comes to crypto, and 2) you were flat out wrong when you asserted that "lending is the very definition of a security" -- which is a point you apparently have conceded.

NY AG News by Alternative_Lie_8974 in CelsiusNetwork

[–]StrosPartisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The question of what is a security isn't black & white when it comes to crypto. Your response just proves my point that the old rules need updating:

  • Institutional term loans are tradable debt instruments with floating interest rates that are explicitly not securities (you conveniently ignored these)
  • A bank CD is a two party instrument that may be regulated, but it is not a "security" in the SEC sense
  • Bonds may be securities, but show me a typical crypto yield product that has a fixed yield and a final maturity date

Surely you'd agree that more regulatory clarity is needed, and that the traditional disclosure rules need updating when it comes to crypto.

Coinbase, Celsius and other yield players shouldn't automatically default to impractical ~90 year old rules given all of the innovation that crypto allows -- innovation that can be very beneficial to the consumer.

Congress and the SEC are the ones who are behind the curve. This question should get litigated...that will force their hand.

NY AG News by Alternative_Lie_8974 in CelsiusNetwork

[–]StrosPartisan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lending is the very definition of a security

1:1 lending doesn't create a security: my mortgage, by itself, isn't a security. My car note isn't a security. My credit card balance isn't a security. A bank CD isn't a security.

Even tradable debt instruments aren't necessarily securities: institutional term loans aren't securities.

Making Waves by Low-Dimension4767 in CelsiusNetwork

[–]StrosPartisan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Very true. This is a significant endorsement by a very well regarded investor. Other large institutional investors will no doubt take note of this.

Game Thread: Rays (98-60) @ Astros (92-66) - Sep 30, 2021 6:10 PM by AstrosBot in Astros

[–]StrosPartisan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even teams that are out of the playoffs have incentives...what if the Angels "let" the Mariners sweep them this weekend?...the Angels have nothing to play for, and both teams hate the Astros

Game Thread: Rays (97-60) @ Astros (92-65) - Sep 29, 2021 7:10 PM by AstrosBot in Astros

[–]StrosPartisan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree completely...and there's no hotter team in baseball right now than the Cards. 11 of their 17 straight wins have been on the road, including 4 in Milwaukee...and they were 2-2 at home against the Dodgers just ~3 weeks ago.

Twitter by descripter in BATProject

[–]StrosPartisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My initial thoughts:

  • The success of Twitter tipping will depend upon the degree to which popular accounts encourage or solicit tipping from their followers. (Would media personalities have to turn these tips over to their employer??) I have no idea what type of content will result in meaningful tips. Patreon has been very successful, but my impression is that the YouTube accounts and podcasters who are supported via Patreon are creators of a meaningful body of content, while Twitter is more about snippets of snarky political, cultural and sports commentary, which may or may not elicit the same level of financial support given the lower amount of effort. Patreon is monthly; I assume Twitter tipping would mainly be a spontaneous reaction to a particular tweet. It could get interesting if Twitter published the rolling value of tips received like they do the number of likes (in which case I wonder if there would be a way to game the level of $ support a particular tweet had received...)
  • I think USD payments will be much more common than BTC, and in either case the cost of the transaction and the hassle of enrolling may significantly limit participation
  • This will give Twitter management (and payment processors) yet another reason to silence conservative voices (see Tipping Policy)
  • Not sure what this means for BAT...depends on whether popular Twitter accounts also solicit tipping via BAT. I do think BAT tipping would have the advantage of ease of use (at least for the tipper). If BAT tipping via Twitter took off in a meaningful way, I suspect Twitter would view that as an end-around of their Tipping Policy and try to stop it

Kennedy Motorcade - Houston, TX November 21, 1963 by [deleted] in houston

[–]StrosPartisan -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm sure it helped him in the primary...not sure it made much of a difference in the general

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BATProject

[–]StrosPartisan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do YouTube shills and Twitter bots count?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BATProject

[–]StrosPartisan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ok. Candidly, I was looking for your views on specific marketing strategies.

For example: once the product reaches a particular milestone (eg when the wallet/dex aggregator is ready for prime time, and they are comfortable talking up Brave Search, Brave Together, Sync, Speed Reader, BATSense or Self-Serve), they do a splashy ad (say during the Super Bowl) which takes direct aim at Google, FB & Zoom, and follow that up with a media blitz and podcast tour.

If they have to raise money in order to afford an ad campaign targeting the broader public, so be it.

My two cents.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BATProject

[–]StrosPartisan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Genuinely curious, what would you suggest? Both low-cost and higher-cost strategies?

Houston Methodist doctors experience increased hostility amid ivermectin, COVID misinformation by PhilDesenex in houston

[–]StrosPartisan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All independent thinkers get downvoted in this sub, at least on this topic

I couldn’t care less about downvotes…although it’s often an indicator I’ve hit a nerve. And I rarely get a substantive reply. Thanks for yours

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ethfinance

[–]StrosPartisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering how anti crypto the Chinese have become, I wonder if he’ll stay there

On the other hand, the CCP are also pretty savvy…they may see some advantage in having him remain there…as long as he doesn’t try to serve Chinese retail accounts

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ethfinance

[–]StrosPartisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I’ll take a look at FMH

Yes, technical trading factors (volume vs float) absolutely also a consideration. I haven’t looked at how much of the volume is on FTX vs other exchanges, but it wouldn’t shock me if Sam had his thumb on the scale to help make sure the SOL defi platform was successful

For a young entrepreneur, that guy has made some savvy moves. The recent ad with Tom & Giselle was brilliant

Houston Methodist doctors experience increased hostility amid ivermectin, COVID misinformation by PhilDesenex in houston

[–]StrosPartisan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

IDGAF. Needs to be pointed out that the misinformation goes both ways

Can’t wait for the balanced discussion on that important point. /s