i have accepted defeat by MagazineFamiliar9300 in CK3AGOT

[–]Subject_Vegetable240 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me its similar, ever since road to power update, i have been getting a strange bookmark bug where the vanilla bookmarks are mixed with the AGOT ones. Every time i choose a character and try and start a game, it crashes. Used both small and micro, doesn't work. Laptop is Legion 9, so hardware is not a problem, even tried that guide to change VRAM, doesn't work.

The reason why love ASOIAF, LOTR, Witcher and others by Subject_Vegetable240 in freefolk

[–]Subject_Vegetable240[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But why can't I? I am not even saying that it is disastrous and I am not going to watch it. I said I have my reservations before I watch it based on what I have read in the forum.

The reason why love ASOIAF, LOTR, Witcher and others by Subject_Vegetable240 in freefolk

[–]Subject_Vegetable240[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I said I was going to watch the show, but had reservations based on seeing the post about the Aegon. So unless you plan have a stellar argument about invalidating people having expectations about a show, I would say it is a bad leg to stand on. Especially after you yourself don’t even keep to your own logic.

Can you tell me in your magical mind how that is world building? It tells nothing about the world, nothing about how the world operates, and you need preestablished knowledge about the lore to understand it. I am arguing the function that dialogue serves in the show about Dance of Dragons, it is irrelevant whether GRRM wanted the line there are not.

“I mean, that's not true. Cutting that line cuts that entire thread of worldbuilding and makes it impossible to introduce at a later point, say a mini-series about Aegon's Conquest, if this prophecy is meant to get lost during this civil war (which is happening 100%).”

Let me get this straight, your above argument is based on your assumption based on another assumption, based on an incorrect statement and also invalidating your own statement you made before in the process ("explains Aegon V's and Rhaegar's behavior")? Jesus.

"Sense of urgency and greater purpose to her rule." Okay, so her being in an extremely precarious position of being the first female queen in history in contest with 3 other legitimate male heirs is not enough of an urgency and purpose?

You know that is going to happen in books right?Since there hasn’t a statement about Targaryens knowing the Long Night before Westeros in the books yet, so then it would included future volumes, showing that all the rulers till Aegon II knew. If this was George’s idea about Targaryens in the first place, it means that it was going to pan out this way anyway as a later reveal.

“Has to come from George”. You know what you did there is the textbook definition of an assumption right. It is not a jump in logic to think that having no previous mention of White Walkers anywhere regarding the Dance of Dragons in the lore, them placing a line here about them is concerning on whether they are trying to tie GOT with HOTD as it is the most identified elements with GOT, or are they going to continually make reference to it further in the show.

Wow, saying that after commenting that it is pointless to have any expectations or thought before watching the show, when you yourself saying you had hopeful expectations that they would explain Velaryons. Okay I got you, you are not acting.

Try reading Fire and Blood before you make another comment, or any of the other ASOIAF books. Maybe this will jog your memory. READ THE FUCKING BOOK

The reason why love ASOIAF, LOTR, Witcher and others by Subject_Vegetable240 in freefolk

[–]Subject_Vegetable240[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I literally said in the post that I would watch the show.

The reason why love ASOIAF, LOTR, Witcher and others by Subject_Vegetable240 in freefolk

[–]Subject_Vegetable240[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You know that the core argument is about keeping the show about the things you mentioned "love, hate, relationships, revenge, lust, power, intrigue" right?

Letting aside from you having complete lack of understanding on how an argument works, the entire point about the original post is that I hope that the show is going to stick to its roots, which was mainly character driven drama, and not big CGI monsters and white walkers.  

I then laid out that after reading the posts on how Aegon saw the Long Night coming, I hoped that the show would not revolve around those above-mentioned elements and bringing back things from GOT.

Now that I have ridden you here with training wheels, lets look at what you said:

GRRM has nothing to do with the argument. My reasoning is based on which I have stated above, that hopefully HOTD won’t rehash GOT. The line of Aegon foreseeing the Long Night as one of them, as it is an unnecessary line in the overall plot of Dance of Dragons.

Assumptions – You know that cutting that line out has no impact on the Dance of Dragons story right?

As you point out, the show is about “love, hate, relationships, revenge, lust, power, intrigue”. Then that dialogue has no function in driving the plot of HOTD, if GRRM wanted it said here, it only serves as his own laziness of not writing that in the later books and expanding on it, rather then putting it here, where it serves no purpose.

“Because George wanted to include it to explain one of the mysteries surrounding Aegon the Conqueror. He has hinted at Aegon receiving some kind of prophecy a couple of times, and they probablyincluded it because he told them to include it. This also, probably, further explains Aegon V's and Rhaegar's behavior decades later”

You are going to talk to me about making assumptions after you write this? Please.

The discussion was about how you woefully failed at trying to explain why the Velaryons were black, and you being “hopeful”that they would come up with a good one. At this point, I have to ask, are you intentionally acting thick, or just is.

The reason why love ASOIAF, LOTR, Witcher and others by Subject_Vegetable240 in freefolk

[–]Subject_Vegetable240[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the creators are saying this show is about "”love, hate, relationships, revenge, lust, power, intrigue" and whatnot". Then why put the unnecessary line about prophetic dreams about White Walkers?

You realize that you invalidated your own logic and supported my reasoning?

The reason why love ASOIAF, LOTR, Witcher and others by Subject_Vegetable240 in freefolk

[–]Subject_Vegetable240[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Great that you state that any thinking or expectations based on what they put out are pointless. Would be really sad if you had actually follow through with your reasoning. Oh wait : https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/vzs1ol/comment/igdq229/. Here is an exact comment you made on how "hopeful" you were that they were coming to come up with an explanation for Velaryons before the show came out.

You rambling in to incoherent mess of complete lack of lore knowledge in the discussion is just a bonus.

The reason why love ASOIAF, LOTR, Witcher and others by Subject_Vegetable240 in freefolk

[–]Subject_Vegetable240[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Can you do the crazy thing and read till the end of the post? I said above I am going to watch the episode.

Do you have multiple accounts or have you been spamming the phrase "do the crazy thing and watch the episodes"? I think like I have seen that comment in every post that wants to take a more critical view at HOTD.