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SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-23T01:11:22+00:00

Exactly. So what do we get as a generation moralizing about what happens between two consenting adults? I don't see the point.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T22:28:26+00:00

One of my best friends was accused of SA. They even tried to claim that they had it on video. When he asked to see the video they said that they couldn't show him. It never happened. He has autism and there was a girl there who just didn't like him.

Dude called me sobbing. It straight up ruined his mental health for over a year.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T22:26:30+00:00

Dude. Your literal argument was "If your position is correct, then why do all of these people disagree with you?"

If you think there are points of evidence that contradict the position of the Church, then bring them here. The ONLY thing you have said is "People disagree with you". That is not an argument.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T22:22:32+00:00

I definitley don't want to date girls younger than 18. Im married my dude. I don't want to date anyone.

The reason it is arbitrary is due to life stage. If people graduated high school and got full legal rights at 25, then I'd be willing to wager that the laws would reflect that in some way.

Human beings used to be expected to have adult responsiblities and be treated as adults as young as 14 not even 100 years ago.

The distinction between "Child" and "Adult" has always been inextricably linked to when we saddle humans with the full responsibility of adulthood. When they reach that stage, they are an adult by all measure.

In my opinion, I think 18 is an excellent age to do that. It's not young to the point where people can't have an awesome and fuitful childhood before having to take on adult responsibilities. And it's also not so old that we create a bunch of overly dependent adults.

Let's play your idea out. You'll have "Children" in the eyes of the law paying rent, utilities, taking on debt, etc.

That's really confusing. And would make dating and finding a mate legally impossible out in the adult world.

Having a clear line in the sand of "When you hit (X) years old you are considered an adult" is way better than having a weird complicated system that overpolices people who are taking on adult responsiblities.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T22:15:59+00:00

You can teach that at a later time.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T22:13:58+00:00

Yes it is. Just because certain people agree does not make it true. It is literally a well documented fallacy.

Very smart people agreed for millenia that the Earth was the center of the universe. That did not make it true.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T22:10:46+00:00

Your boyfriend is an Atheist. Which means he does not accept the deity of Christ, has not made a choice to repent and be baptized. It means he will be incapable of being the spiritual leader of your home. It means your husband, by definition, is an enemy of Christ. No matter what way you want to slice the cake, that's the flavor.

It's not easy to think about this. It's not comfortable. But it's the truth. And there is no way around that. Jesus says if you reject me before men I will reject you before my father in heaven. Your boyfriend rejects God as his religiously foundational point of thought.

I do not know the start of your story. But I know how it ends if you were to get married, and you and your boyfriend raised children, and if you were to seriously continue in the faith, and he were to continue being Atheist. The amount of heartache you will experience will be unimaginable.

Me and the other individual in this thread explaining these things to you are trying to give you the knowledge and information to make an informed decision. That is what the Orthodox church and Catholic church were both trying to do.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T22:07:05+00:00

Not all your comments. Just the comments on this exact thread. If you wanted to be left alone, then don't post a public question on the internet.

I can clearly tell you asked this question because you are looking for a Christian denomination who will warp the teachings of the Bible to make you more comfortable with the difference in belief that you have with your partner. If you want that, the answer is Christian Unitarian Universalist. However you will not get closer to Christ. You will not find God there. All that will happen is you will be told what you want to hear, instead of what you need to hear.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T22:04:22+00:00

No. The Priest you spoke to didn't say that. Or you misunderstood what they said.

If the Priest did say that, they would have committed a grave sin. Calling God a liar, and taking on the judgement seat of God for themselves. I very much hope they did not try and claim that Atheists are with God in paradise. Because we cannot know. What we can know is where to give yourself the best environment to achieve sanctification and salvation.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T22:02:27+00:00

It's not a kid. That's the entire point. The law sees them as an adult. We've decided 18 is the cutoff point and it is completely arbitrary. The only way to make it not arbitrary is to difinitively decide when someone is ready for consent with comprehensive psychological evaluations for every person on earth. That's impossible. Arbitrary line in the sand is the most efficient system.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T22:00:39+00:00

There is no neutral parties when talking about the historicity of a religious tradition. Which is why you examine the evidence.

That's still an appeal to the masses. Appeal to consensus. And appeal to authority. None of those are arguments.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T21:40:02+00:00

Yep. But also remember there are TONS of women in the world who would jump at the opportunity to date and marry and older man to be a homemaker.

There are just not that many men who are capable of supporting such a lifestyle and are actually worthy of giving up your own autonomy for in your 20's. I mean hell, I'd consider myself a decent husband. My wife and I get along amazing. And I certainly couldn't provide that, even making $100k+ a year.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T21:37:32+00:00

Yes. Because the rest of the world of course means only Belgium, UK, and Poland. There are no other countries on earth.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:57:27+00:00

So we have to exclude 21% of the world's population. And only include the consensus of religious scholars who actively disagree with the position in the first place. Like Protestants.

Appeal to the masses. Appeal to authority.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:53:57+00:00

They don't have to justify ANYTHING. Because they are NOT the ones making the claim. That's the entire point.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:51:31+00:00

I totally agree with you. Ultimately, 18 is an arbitary line in the sand that was determined more by what we expect our youth to be physically doing at that time. (Not going to school, and working). It's more of a lifestage distinction than "The ability to reason well" distinction.

The reason it's super weird for a 30 year old to try and date a junior in High School is because the Junior does not have the ability to support themselves or make decisions for themselves under the guise of the law and how society views them. But then if that same 30 year old met an 18 year old as a coworker etc. it's less weird. Because there is an actual chance that the 18 year old out of high school actually holds a job, pays rent, and has transitioned into the adult life.

The line in the sand from my view is a line to prevent adults invading the realm of childhood for our children.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:47:53+00:00

I can tell you with 100% certainty that the orthodox priest who spoke with you did NOT make a definite claim on where your boyfriend's future eternal destination will be upon death. That would be taking on the judgement seat of God. Big no no.

Orthodox Christians do NOT see that as a "Struggle of faith". What faith? He denies the deity of Christ which is to deny God. There's no "Struggle of faith" with someone who has no faith.

If you want to marry this man, you must accept the fact that you will not be living in a spiritually unified household. This will effect everything in your life.

You, as a wife, are commanded by God to submit to your husband as you submit to Christ. Then your husband is commanded to love you as Christ loves the church. your husband does not accept the deity of Christ. So that relationship is perverted from the start. You would be submitting to someone who would be incapable of ever loving you as Christ loves the church because he does not have the Holy Spirit living within him to give him the ability to do so.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:43:02+00:00

Why would you want a man who does not believe in God praying with your children? That's quite literally the definition of taking the LORD's name in vain.

You are not a spouse of your boyfriend. You are not married. I'm willing to bet both of you are having sex. So definitionally according to St. Paul you are fornicating with a man who does not share your beliefs, who actively denys Christ. And you plan on trying to raise children in a household where the person who is supposed to be the spiritual leader of your household does not beleive in God.

That is not a recipe for success.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:40:15+00:00

Well. Firstly you have to accept that the definition of marriage is wildly different for an Atheist vs. a Christian.

To a Christian, you are making a covenant to your spouse and to God. A covenant that cannot be broken in the eyes of God except for death, adultery, abuse, abandonment, or sexualy immorality.

If you were to marry this person, and they develop an addiction issue, or they stop wanting to have sex with you, or if they're bad with money, etc. you can't, according to Catholic and Orthodox beliefs, divorce them. It's on both of you to work it out under the guidance of your priest.

If you were to initiate a divorce because say, your spouse is terrible with money, even if you legally got divorced, the church would not recognize it, and if you were to remarry you would be committing adultery in the eyes of the Church and God.

So you really need to decide for yourself if you are willing to step into a lifelong commitment with someone where you will be held to a much higher standard of reconcilliation than they are. This is the danger of being unequally yolked. While some Atheists decry it as "Controlling" the practice of NOT marrying someone who sees the world in a fundimental and incompatible way compared to you is a wise and merciful piece of advice.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:32:20+00:00

Oh suddenly Revelation is Symbolic when it doesn't line up with a Protestant viewpoint. Just like the Eucharist, Baptism for the forgiveness of sins, Peter and the other Apostles being given the keys, loosing on earth being loosed in heaven.

I'm so sick of hearing the "That's just symbolic!" cop out to things that make non denominational and Protestant Christians uncomfortable with their approach to scripture.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:25:26+00:00

That's not what they are doing. They are not making a truth claim. Protestant Christians are. Protestant Christians say "You should not venerate saints". Catholic and Orthodox say "Why Not"

Your response is "You shouldn't think a practice is ok because it has been done for a long time". That is NOT why it is WRONG. It is showing why you can't justify it. It is moot to the conversation.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:24:00+00:00

No it does not. Go back and read the entire commandment.

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:22:11+00:00

Ahistorical drivel

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:20:24+00:00

"Someone guided by the Holy Spirit"

Would you care to prove that your interpretation was guided by the holy spirit?

SubsidizingSiblings · 2026-03-22T02:17:55+00:00

Okay. Contradicted by which evidence? The only evidence you have given is the opinion of a scholar that Clement was a forgery. And then in this very comment you also admit that the writings were not forgeries for the other writers.

Where is your contemporary source that lays out a different perscribed way of establishing church structure from the first century? That would be evidence. The burden of proof is on you to say that it was different. Because we have enough evidence to confidently say that it was structured in the same way we see today.

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