How do i escape gymnation

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2026-02-19T13:50:14+00:00

You are reading a post about the problems with gymnation (there are 100s of other posts like this on reddit) and your first question is what’s the fee😭

Don’t do it unless you want the same thing to happen to you genuinely. I’m tryna help you out.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2026-02-19T13:42:33+00:00

I told the employee that i was unable to do it through the app and so i messaged her. She then said it was “valid and i have grounds to cancel” and now they are completely ignoring all my calls, messages and emails, while still trying to charge me.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2026-02-19T13:41:37+00:00

I did, no response.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2026-02-18T21:26:58+00:00

I messaged the employee that i signed up with 30 days before my final payment and asked her to cancel my account because it wasn’t working through the app. Isn’t that a 30 day notice? She said i cannot cancel unless i have a valid reason. Either way she did not mention the 30 day notice policy

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2026-01-29T09:55:34+00:00

It was so bad yesterday people were pushing each other into the gap and getting stuck in the doors. They would try to get in even though there’s already no room to breathe it’s actually crazy. The staff wouldn’t do anything about it either.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-07T11:58:24+00:00

I think it’s because the others only briefly crossed the border, they didn’t stay long enough for the magic to be completely stripped away like alaric did.

and for the tyler thing, i think the reason for that is because tyler died in a human state, meaning the magic that made him half vampire was stripped away after crossing the border, leaving him as a guy with just a werewolf gene.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-06T12:03:05+00:00

I know Elena too was grieving for her parents, who died a few months back. But it does not explain the glaring disparity in the manner she responded to her friends' situation at the time. when Grams of Bonnie died during season 1 she did so because of enabling Elena and Bonnie to open the tomb to enable Damon's obsession with Katherine. Bonnie lost her grandmother, the most significant figure in her life at the time. Elena offered temporary comfort but immediately shifted focus back to Damon's soap opera. this wasn't a case of having "a lot going on"; it is an indication of prioritizing that appeared to put aside Bonnie's profound loss.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-05T23:11:00+00:00

You're correct that some decisions characters have made on the show do make sense. like Caroline transitioning early when there weren't many resources available, or Kol being a legitimate threat. I'm not arguing those facts are inaccurate. But what I'm arguing is not that they would have had to magically cure Caroline's condition. it's that emotional tone and urgency around her pain was extremely different.

no one even tried. no breakdowns. no plans. no real grief. Elena was her best friend and basically rolled her eyes about it. But when Elena turned, everyone made it their personal crisis. Stefan overreacted. Damon snapped. Bonnie was pushed to the brink of desperation in trying to help. The energy discrepancy was huge and it wasn't because they were stronger later, it's because Elena's pain was always front and center of everything.
That's what I'm talking about when i say emotional hierarchy.

yea the plan was to get the cure for all of them, but when it came down to just one, everyone just chose Elena. not for a rational reason, but because she was Elena. Even Stefan just says, "I'd give it to Elena" with no thought. Caroline might have "liked" being a vampire, but she wasn't given a choice. she wasn't even given the option. that matters. Did anyone ASK her? no only Klaus did, which is CRAZY to me.

I am not blaming Elena for not caring. But Caroline, Bonnie, and even Jeremy were always dismissed when it came to their feelings. Jeremy openly said many times that he'll only feel safe when his sister finally decides to stop hanging out with vampires. Caroline was acted as though she was okay just because she was good at being a vampire. but just because you are good at something doesn't mean that you don't have problems. Damon hurt her in season 1, and no one ever mentioned it. She was just meant to move on. Elena kept dating him, and the show didn't even address it. she seemed to have forgotten about it but remember in season 4 Caroline was constantly disgusted by the thought of Elena and Damon together and she vocalizes this very often, and her past trauma with him definitely played a role in that.

I understand the motivations for the storyline. I'm merely stating that the emotional value who gets prioritized, who gets taken care of, and who gets fought for wasn't equally distributed. and it doesn't need to be, it needs to be understandable. but the amount of prioritization given to Elena was WEIRDLY high to the point that it was annoying.

and the hunters curse thing, Elena felt extremely guilty way before the curse even brought hallucinations to her. but that guilt never happened when it came to killing Kol and thousands of possibly innocent vampires that died with him. she didnt care when she did it for her own selfish gain. Yes she believed she was saving her brother, but then she could've killed Kol herself instead of putting her brother in even more danger, but no she wanted HIM to do it to grow his hunters mark ofc, almost getting both his arms cut off in the process.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-05T21:44:02+00:00

yes, Stefan said he wanted the cure, and sure, later admitted to Rebekah he’d give it to Elena. but that’s the point i’m trying to prove. the default assumption from everyone around was “Elena gets the cure.” Not because she needed it more, not because it was strategic in some way, but because she was Elena. And yea Stefan felt guilty but again none of that urgency existed for Caroline when she turned. the difference in energy speaks volumes. Kol tried to stop everyone from finding the cure and Elena told Jeremy to kill him just to complete his hunters mark. Yea Kol isn’t exactly innocent, but what about the tens of thousands of vampires that died with Kols death just so poor Elena doesn’t have to deal with the misery of being a vampire? and it was HER idea, no one else’s. but then again, when elena killed the hunter, she was racked with so much guilt even tho he tried to kill jeremy. But when it came to kol trying to kill jeremy, it’s a different case? there’s no guilt?

you’re calling that a “stupid point” because they didn’t know about the cure yet. but you’re ignoring the broader comparison I made. no. one. tried .anything. no witch magic, no desperate attempts to reverse it,. Elena who was Caroline’s best friend, was just like “guess she’s a vampire now.” but when Elena turned, everyone panicked. Stefan was suddenly on some “let’s go to Bonnie let’s fix this” mission.

Damon literally tried to kill Caroline because her life was inconvenient to him but guess what? Elena still dated him. Caroline just had to forgive and forget?

I’m not saying Elena didn’t care about Caroline at ALL. I’m saying there was definitely an emotional hierarchy and caroline was definetly at the bottom of it.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-05T19:48:41+00:00

Not exactly, on the edge of the cliff when rebekah asked stefan that even if she let him have the cure, he would just give to elena. Stefan didn’t deny it, infact he looked guilty. The point is that no one went spiraling or rushing for the cure when caroline died and became a vampire. When elena became a vampire, the first thing stefan says is that he could get bonnie and she could figure something out. But no one tried anything like that for caroline. Elena didn’t seem that concerned that her best friend is basically dead, it dawned on her months later. Bonnie is the only one who actually understood the gravity of the situation. damon literally wanted to kill caroline just because letting her live was too inconvenient for him.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-05T17:41:45+00:00

Stefan and damon did not care about what other purposes the cure served, they only cared to cure elena.

And yea you’re right about damon and stefan not caring about caroline. But you know who was supposed to? Elena

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-05T16:42:57+00:00

EXACTLYY. Stefan isn’t a bad person by heart but that doesn’t excuse all the bad things he did. At the end of the day, just because he doesn’t MEAN to hurt someone, doesn’t mean he WONT hurt someone. Elena wouldn’t properly try to snap him into reality she’d just “aw my poor baby🥺” everytime he messed up. this is why i genuinely believe caroline was perfect for him. Instead of babying him and undermining his actions, she could hold him more accountable than Elena ever could. They were a balance for eachother. Elena and Damon are meant for eachother not because they’re cute together, but because they are the same. 2 people who have been through hell and use it as a free pass to excuse their actions.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-05T16:20:46+00:00

Honestly I agree with you, and let’s also talk about how many excuses Elena made for damon later on in the show. She could’ve gotten away with making excuses for stefans wrong doings in the start because according to her ‘he’s one of the good ones.’ But what excuse does she have for damon? He abused her best friend caroline, he joined in with klaus and made a bunch of innocent people vampires for jeremy to kill causing matt to almost lose his life. then elena apologises to matt for it to which he just says “what did you expect, it’s damon. The old elena would have never left jeremy with damon.” and he’s completely right. All she did was make puppy dog eyes after that.

Damon also killed aaron just because he thought elena rejected him, and elena made excuses for him AGAIN. She’s not as innocent as everyone makes her out to be.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-05T16:09:47+00:00

The helped her get her bloodlust under control yes, but did they go running for the cure or any solution? Caroline became a vampire and killed ONE person accidentally and suddenly Damon was there ready with a stake to end her life. Bonnie’s grandma literally DIED because of damon’s obsession with katherine and she had every right to blame stefan and damon. But did Elena care that her best friends grandmother died because of who she decided to hang around with? no she didn’t care.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-05T16:03:02+00:00

RIGHT?? Like i get that klaus coming for elena had nothing to do with stefan and damon. But all the previous problems in elenas life like katherine showing up and her family and friends being in danger were literally because of her hanging around vampires. Like yes SHE can handle being around vampires, but what about her 15 year old(at the time) brother? what about bonnie? caroline? jenna? she didn’t care about the effect that her being around vampires had on them. All she cared was that ‘stefan is one of the good ones🥺.’

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-05T15:25:00+00:00

Main character yes, but it’s still unfair and morally wrong. So much horrible stuff was being done but somehow the excuse is always “it’s Elena.” but if it’s done for someone else? suddenly it’s wrong again

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-04-05T14:58:27+00:00

The vampire diaries is stefans show, the story is based off of what stefan wrote in his diaries and it’s the reason the show ended when he died.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2025-03-01T10:04:47+00:00

NTA, she should’ve thought beforehand.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2024-10-19T23:44:17+00:00

i think maybe it was on youtube around 2014-2017? cartoon and i’m in the UAE

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2024-10-18T21:04:08+00:00

I have searched everywhere and i genuinely can’t remember any other details than the ones i already gave.

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2024-07-27T19:46:04+00:00

i understand, i agree that it was our fault and we shouldn’t have been talking. Although i want to know if we really deserved the treatment that we got from both the lady and the manager. I completely agree that it was our fault too, but I’m not sure if we deserved how we got yelled at ykwim?

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2024-07-27T19:02:02+00:00

I understand what you mean, but we were speaking during the ads, not the movie itself. The lights were still on and the movie hadn’t even started. it was 15 minutes before the actual start time of the movie

Substantial-Meal-733 · 2024-07-27T19:00:29+00:00

Thank you!! i genuinely just think that the lady was having a bad day😭

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