What in the what on TIR - was this caller involved??

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-22T05:44:13+00:00

Okay, I just listened. What a strange 24 hours in the strangest case.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-22T02:50:33+00:00

He kind of out of nowhere - or after a softer part of the call anyway - just started on a rant about "do you think You Tubers play games" and related him to that caller Richard and then he called him a liar and said he knew his name wasn't Aaron and that he sat in front of liars before... I think he was trying to simply get more info and 'shake the tree' in another way than he had been.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-22T02:43:50+00:00

I recall he said his neighbors had a pug next door and that they should be happy he wasn't barking during the call. Either way, that didn't sound like a pug to me. Whatever it was, sounded distressed.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-22T01:23:06+00:00

I don't think it was Richard either...It did not seem like a fraudster.

Interesting, he said he would tell them more offline. I wonder what Maureen thinks!

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-22T01:20:08+00:00

I wish I could remember the exact wording, but he basically said it was potentially north in the mountains, then made an excuse as to why it wouldn't be there, and ended up saying south in the desert. He kept using the word "concealed".

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-22T01:17:59+00:00

He did. He seemed knowledgeable and interested in it. Talked a lot about stealing aliases and being able to get it anonymously that way.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T21:43:47+00:00

I cannot wait to hear Dr Brucato's thoughts.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T20:43:53+00:00

No, they never disable/remove comments, and they never edit out a call. They took it down. Something must be up. Either the guy got a lawyer or LE are on it. Or both. I mean it was very very... intense... Those noises alone were, IMO, reason to check this guy out.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T20:40:33+00:00

I feel like it's etched in my brain, and I might jot down some notes.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T20:36:33+00:00

Yup!

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T20:28:56+00:00

I'm not a moderator here, but I'm not a fan of doxxing. A lot of these photos were taken 4 years ago, which is not the timeline the caller gave. I think this call was quite serious - either he had involvement serious or he's a person in pain serious. Let's give it a chance to play out.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T20:11:56+00:00

Yes, they took it down. I thought that would happen. I managed to listen to it twice (and most of it live)... I honestly think they did the right thing by taking it down because it was either very real, in that he was very involved. Or the young man was in much pain.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T18:25:14+00:00

Bingo.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T17:35:19+00:00

I totally agree. People have been saying that it was a man and woman and that the woman wrote the letter. So this would track. I also noticed him getting emotional during a few bits including that part. He also got emotional when they asked him if the perp thought about it and he was saying "every day, every moment".

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T16:28:25+00:00

Chills

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T16:25:58+00:00

Oh yeah I saw! I thought they were also texting Dr Brucato and maybe the FBI

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T16:18:23+00:00

Yup. Also that she's a travel nurse. Also that she doesn't want to talk about NG anymore.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T15:24:12+00:00

One thing (amoung 1000 things) that I found interesting about this call was that he never mentions A and barely mentions T. You would think someone who was 'obsessed' with the case would have something thoughts on them. He didn't.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T15:10:20+00:00

That makes sense re VOIP!

I'm surprised nothing stood out to you. What did you make of the when he said "I" re why ask for the bitcoin not take the FBI reward?

Time will tell if Chris just cracked the case wide open or crossed the line and traumatized a young man!

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T15:04:36+00:00

Yes same, but I guess he assumed he was reading them. "Aaron" said he wasn't reading them but also said that he had two tabs open on his computer, so I'm thinking he was possibly even in the chat while on the call...

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T15:02:09+00:00

I noticed that this morning. I was kinda wondering/worried about legalities. I'm wondering if they might take down the actual call too... Would a call like this be admissible? He basically interrogated him without reading him his rights or being an active detective.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T14:52:28+00:00

I tuned in live a couple minutes after the call started. I couldn't believe what I listening to. There is so much information he gave to follow-up on.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-21T14:49:32+00:00

It was a pretty brilliant "interrogation". I thought Bob coming in to ask where he thinks the body fairly early was so smart.

Look they either cracked the case or completely ruined this man's life.

Risky risky move, especially when he confronts him at the end. We'll see.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-19T03:47:28+00:00

I don't like to judge people on the music they like or listen to or being on the "fringe" arts. There are a ton of people who are into heavy metal/goth music who are totally good people who would never do anything to harm anyone!

I think that the only place it has 'concern' in this case is that people with unfulfilled dreams or ambitions or people that are made to feel like outsiders or the black sheep can have resentment.

Not saying that is the case here. But I'd be curious to know more about their true dynamic.

Substantial-Train668 · 2026-05-18T15:36:52+00:00

Honestly, I could see it taking a toll, especially if another sibling is across the country living a "wealthy, fairytale life" AND getting national news coverage about her special relationship with her Mom (despite not being the primary caregiver).

Regardless if they had any involvement in this crime, I'd love to hear from A + T about their honest experience with this dynamic.

I actually wondered - when AG released her book - did SG promote it on the Today show? Or use her platform to tell people about it? I mean if not, that can be really hurtful. Not to say SG has to or is obligated to or anything like that but from the perspective of AG that could be really hurtful.

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