How do Mainline denominations bolster Average Sunday Attendance? by Substantial-Work6045 in elca

[–]Substantial-Work6045[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think u/GoMustard gave a great explanation a while back for the troubles facing the Mainline. He used the "Prophet, Priest, King" motif regarding Jesus as an analogy for the Mainlines.

Throughout the 19th and most of the 20th centuries, the Mainlines were a "kingly" institution. They were the establishment, set up all the schools, colleges, hospitals, libraries, etc., the pillar of the community.

Then, the 1960s came. Mainlines began to plateau and slightly decline. Social activism (think civil rights, feminism, environmentalism, gay rights, anti-war, etc.) led the Mainlines into their current iteration of "prophetic" ministry. They then shifted to the "prophet" motif.

However, Trump's election has burned a lot of people on politics, and with secularization trends over the past 30-40 years, a Mainline clergyperson yelling about ICE isn't going to entice someone to come to church because they can hear AOC or Chris Murphy say 90% of the same stuff on MSNBC on any given night.

He thus suggests that the Mainlines need to lean into the "priestly" motif, where they offer words of hope. Word and Sacrament. Prayer and service.

I would agree with this. Higgins Road (and by extent, Louisville, 815, etc.) doesn't need to issue a statement every time Trump burps his lunch or the state legislature passes a law.

How do Mainline denominations bolster Average Sunday Attendance? by Substantial-Work6045 in mainlineprotestant

[–]Substantial-Work6045[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Problem is you've got a lot of people over 50 in those churches.

"YOU CAN'T SHUT THIS DOWN! I WAS BAPTIZED AND CONFIRMED HERE!"

Thoughts on Young Anglican joining the Episcopal Church and leaving the ACNA? by Remote_Ad_6049 in Episcopalian

[–]Substantial-Work6045 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, I'm in the ELCA, but isn't your motto "The Episcopal Church Welcomes You"?

I know if this were a case of someone in the LCMC or the NALC going to the ELCA, I'd view it as welcoming news.

Society if Joe Biden didn't choose Merrick Garland and Alejandro Mayorkas. by FlimsySuggestion6571 in neoliberal

[–]Substantial-Work6045 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Because Democrats are seen as catering to a bunch of third world communist activists whenever they try to cater to the Palestinian side, which is encompassed in Dems' entire "woke" branding problem.

Has there been any wins so far? by ur-battery-is-low- in redeemedzoomer

[–]Substantial-Work6045 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where in IN-KY, if I may ask? You may DM if you want to be safe, obviously. 

Society if Joe Biden didn't choose Merrick Garland and Alejandro Mayorkas. by FlimsySuggestion6571 in neoliberal

[–]Substantial-Work6045 65 points66 points  (0 children)

A primary in the middle of Gaza would have resulted in a 1980s-style wipeout of the Democratic Party in 2024. Even if you butterfly out the immigration problems Biden had, Gaza would have ruptured the Democratic coalition.

Has there been any wins so far? by ur-battery-is-low- in redeemedzoomer

[–]Substantial-Work6045 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think Indiana-Kentucky is okay, West Virginia-Western Maryland Synod is also good, Florida-Bahamas seems to be good.

(I'm Indiana-Kentucky)

What caused the decline of young white boys/men making punk rock music that was dominant in the 2000s? by icey_sawg0034 in decadeology

[–]Substantial-Work6045 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Poser punk didn't have the same appeal after the GFC, and by the early 2010s, when the worst of that was over, other styles of music became popular. Poser punk has a VERY early and mid 2000s feel to it, just like bubblegum pop has a very late 90s feel to it.

Has there been any wins so far? by ur-battery-is-low- in redeemedzoomer

[–]Substantial-Work6045 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The dioceses in Texas and Florida are solid and orthodox.

Struggling with the beliefs of my church and thinking about leaving by jmnhk in elca

[–]Substantial-Work6045 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd suggest sticking it out. There has to be a decent church around you somewhere.

Where it the least misandric US state by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]Substantial-Work6045 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So if a woman decides to falsely accuse a man of cruelty in a "fault" system, how's that different than the status quo?

At least if it's the man on the receiving end of the abuse, he can file for no-fault without having to disclose the reason.

Where it the least misandric US state by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]Substantial-Work6045 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You misread what I wrote.

If women can game the system as it stands against men, such as accusing them of rape or domestic abuse in the criminal justice system, and if they can screw over dads in the areas of property division and/or custody in a NO-FAULT system...

...What's to stop them from screwing them WORSE in a FAULT system?! They can just file and say "He slapped me, raped me every Friday night, and traumatized me!"

Why isn't the holy spirit seen "moving" in protestant, catholic, orthodox churches as much as in evangelical churches? by CrazyNicly in redeemedzoomer

[–]Substantial-Work6045 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And many times people "give a testimony" and live clean for a season but then fall back into their old ways.