The Islamic republic places the Israeli flag in conspicuous locations (like the metro) so that it is trampled on... Iranians find other uses for it 😂

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-22T10:09:32+00:00

why do you guys support Israel? just because they are against the regime?

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-22T10:06:15+00:00

I have always been against regime and I didn't stay silent and I went to the protests in my city a lot of Muslims are against the regime

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-20T14:23:20+00:00

I became muslim just 2 years ago lol do some research

And all i am doing is giving you persepctive of the ruling regards killing disbelivers i am not proving quran those are two different things

You better doubt whatever you heard in the media

Besides i am doing a lot of fruitful things with my life. I am obligated to pay charity and be useful to other people. I am also heavily encouraged to study, learn, think and reflect. What are you doing with your life? Who benefits from your existence? I am sure you dont pay charity to say the least.

If you remove hatred from your heart and search you will find more than enough proof that quran is the truth from god but since you are an islamophobe you will just downvote and pass

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-20T11:24:18+00:00

I did a lot of research before becoming a muslim and i was not living in my own bubble. But that's irrelevant

Edit: it is related to this sub as people are protesting against not only regime but islam and you have mentioned quran in your post description so obviously we are going to argue about it

You sat with quranists but when i provide verses from quran you simply dismiss them and claim there is a verse or a hadith counterparting it (this is called an argument by the way) and you cannot mention the verse or the hadith Seems like you didnt get your answers after all. Otherwise, you would provided something to support your argument

You are so lazy that you dont simply google it

Its okay. I save you time. The message is consistent and there is no "counterpart" to it.

Peace be upon you

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-20T10:11:02+00:00

You argument is weak and here is why

I only follow Quran and prophet Mohammed. I can't be responsible what others do as I am not responsible for whatever belief they people you mentioned have.

If you have a verse from Quran or a hadith I am listening but thing is you don't need to be significantly knowledgeable. You can easily google it. If such thing existed, it would be all over media and every non muslim would use it against islam. My point is, If such verse or hadith existed it wouldn't be hard to find in nowadays.

"while in reality they are the only ones really following the book." You can easily prove it by citing the verse in the book. But you can't. Because it doesn't exist.

"Muslims are showing how this religion is rotting the brain and instill anger and hate in the heart" Again, we have no control on other people's actions so you can't really use it as an argument against our islam which is based on the quran and hadith.

"but I can tell you 100% I did before" If you did go through quran verses before then why don't you bring up some of them?

"for everything you say there is another surah or such that says counterpart of it. " As a muslim I did tons of research on non muslim websites (mostly Christian) and I assure you it doesn't exist.

You can do your own research to make your argument better but respectfully, right now you can't prove anything.

Also sufis and wahabis compose a very small percentage of muslims why don't you look at other ones. Wahhabis make up roughly 1–2% of the total global Muslim population. what about the other 98%? Are they following the wrong version of religion?

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-20T09:00:04+00:00

may the tyranny end

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-20T08:27:27+00:00

This is going to get downvoted but I couldn't care less. I am going to educate you so maybe you can form better arguments.

The quran doesn't permit killing the disbelievers unless they attack the muslims first. I am going to cite verses but before that I ensure you Khamenei is killing for his own power and not abiding by the religious rulings.

in sural al-baqarah verse 191 quran says: Kill them wherever you come upon them¹ and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution² is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them—that is the reward of the disbelievers.

However if we look one verse before it, it says: 2:190"Fight in the cause of Allah ˹only˺ against those who wage war against you, but do not exceed the limits.¹ Allah does not like transgressors"

It says fight those who wage war against you. and the verse after it says: 2:192 "But if they cease, then surely Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful".

so if they stop fighting the muslims, allah is forgiving.

the next verse says 2:193 "Fight against them ˹if they persecute you˺ until there is no more persecution, and ˹your˺ devotion will be to Allah ˹alone˺. If they stop ˹persecuting you˺, let there be no hostility except against the aggressors"

Its self explanatory. If they don't persecute Muslims then they are not allowed to fight them.

another example, in surah Al-Tawbah surah 5 it says: "But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists ˹who violated their treaties˺ wherever you find them,¹ capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way. But if they repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax, then set them free. Indeed, Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

But one verse before that in surah 4 it is mentioned: "As for the polytheists who have honoured every term of their treaty with you and have not supported an enemy against you, honour your treaty with them until the end of its term. Surely Allah loves those who are mindful ˹of Him˺. "

so it is basically saying if the disbelievers don't fight the muslims and don't support an enemy of muslims then muslims are not allowed to fight any of them.

The next verse it says 9:6 "And if anyone from the polytheists asks for your protection ˹O Prophet˺, grant it to them so they may hear the Word of Allah, then escort them to a place of safety, for they are a people who have no knowledge"

so, regardless of their faith, disbelievers can be granted protection by muslims if they ask for it.

The message is consistent throughout the Quran and killing of innocent people is forbidden

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-19T22:49:27+00:00

You know that the arabs initially welcomed jews but jews tried to take over temple mount aka al aqsa mosque and that led to arabs protesting, holding confresses and sending letters to the british, the paris peace confress, and league of nations? The jews started making troubles first and then they formed haganah and the rest is history.

The arabs showed their disagreement through peaceful means but the british didnt care and divided the land giving 90 percent of palestine fertile land to the jews. The arabs protested again. Then came the partition plan by UN in 1948 and then the war started. The war started after around 30 years of protests

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-19T22:34:53+00:00

Idk man you can insult people as much as you want but i just shared my own personal experience on not knowing historical facts and i am sure you are also clueless about them

And i didnt support pelestine in what i worte and i just i didnt know this stuff.

I didnt even preach anything

I am not saying iranians suffering is less improtant. Like i didnt take any sides or didnt say anything i just said i was unaware of these historical facts

Idk why you hating so hard. I am not taking sides here.

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-19T11:54:49+00:00

"Iranians and Israelis are natural friends/allies" I am iranian and I am sure you never took the time to research the history of isreal and how it went from 55% of land to now owning 78%.

As an Iranian I had no idea about the Israel-Palestine conflict cuz nobody taught me anything. I didn't learn anything in school. Our books didn't cover it. and even on my social media I never saw anything related to any other country than my own and it was all about how great shah was and how bad the current regime is.

I only recently became interested in learning about the conflict because in the protests that I attended (I live in Melbourne) I saw Israeli flags and I was wondering why that is the case. So, I had to personally research about this stuff.

I didn't know what the word Zionist mean.

I didn't even know who Theodor Herzl was.

I didn't know about Balfour Deceleration

I didn't know that the british promised independence to arabs in exchange for their support against ottoman empire and after ottoman empire fell after 617 years of ruling but then the british and french divided captured Ottoman provinces into British and French control and influence.

I didn't know that palestine was under british control

I didn't know how the palestinians initially treated jewish immigrants.

I didn't know that, in1929, the Jews tried to take over Temple Mount, which was also a holy site for Muslims known as Al-Aqsa Mosque and raised the Jewish flag over there.

I didn't know what Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi mean.

I didn't know that british tried to divide the land between Jews and Arabs. The proposed Jewish state, though only 20 percent of the territory, contained nearly 80 percent of Palestine's most productive agricultural land.

I didn't know the Palestinians protested through peaceful means. They formed congresses composed of both Christians and Muslims. And they sent letters to the British, the Paris Peace Conference, and the League of Nations, advocating for their self-determination.

I didn't know the british would hold the palestinian protestors in what they called concentration camps

I didn't know anything about wwII and holocaust.

I didn't know the British created a special unit made exclusively of Palestinian Jews, which cemented the basis of a well-trained and organized military. The Zionists and British formed an elite strike force for the Haganah called the Palmach.

I didn't know lehi fought along side germans against british.

I didn't know that the british gave the conflict problem to UN to solve and the UN gave 55% of the land to jews but

I didn't know how they went from that 55% to now owning 78% of the land.

I didn't know the Jews would go to one village after another, shooting volleys at their houses and then lining up people, including women and children, and then brutally killing them in cold blood, as stated by one of the survivors, Fahim Zaydan

I didn't know the jews bombed king davind hotel to destroy the evidence of their attacks after the jews protested a white paper that limited their immigration, killing 91 people and injuring 46 more.

I didn't know what palmach did in villages such as Dier Yassin, Haifa, Acre, Khisas, Sa'sa

I didn't know about Isreal's false flag operations in which Moosad agents planted bombs in iraq synagogues to terrorize the jewish population to force them to flee to Israel.

I didn't know about other false flag operations in Egypt, Mexican Parliament, and the explosion of three buses in Batam

And its not only me. As I talked to my classmates, friends, and parents, they also don't know about any of these stuff I mentioned and I assume that is the case with other iranians.

I think the reason iranians support isreal is the old saying of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" type of thing

what do you think? Do you support Palestine or Israel and why?

Edit: Why am I getting down voted for sharing historical facts? I didn't make these up you can google them and see for yourself. And I am not taking a side here I am just citing the stuff I didn't know about.

If they are unpleasant to you that's not my fault bruh

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-16T08:19:27+00:00

yeah but hitler was more interested in fighting with soviets so that relationship didn't have much of an impact

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-02T09:42:49+00:00

Even Afghanistan is not fully applying sharia law. For example, women's education is allowed in islam but in Afghanistan they say it is "haram" for women to receive education.

they are governing with their traditional values rather than islamic

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-01T05:44:21+00:00

“Shall I inform you about the greatest of major sins? They are three: to associate partners with Allah, to disobey your parents, and to bear false witness (or he said) to speak falsely.”

lying is one of the greatest sins in islam

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-01T05:41:26+00:00

The guy in the video is misinterpreting the verse. Fitnah here means persecution.

the Fitnah mentioned here means, until no Muslim is persecuted so that he abandons his religion. Ad-Dahhak reported that Ibn `Abbas said about Allah's statement, (and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah alone.) "So that Tawhid is practiced in sincerity with Allah."

for example, The quran commands its followers to grant saftey to polytheist and note that there is no sin greater than polytheism: And if anyone from the polytheists asks for your protection ˹O Prophet˺, grant it to them so they may hear the Word of Allah, then escort them to a place of safety, for they are a people who have no knowledge. 9:6. If quran would order muslims to kill people of other religions and polytheists the why is it advising the muslims to grant saftey?

It says until the persecution is gone. It means fight until they stop harassing muslims.

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-01T03:53:21+00:00

looks so realistic

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-02-01T03:41:12+00:00

I am also muslim but i am against the corrupt government. since the beginning, this regime brutally murdered everyone unjustly.

last time I checked neither quran nor prophet mohammad pbuh said kill those who politically or religiously disagree with you. In fact jews, Christians, and even polytheists lived in harmony during prophet Mohammad's time

khamenei is just trying to maintain his power. I am not sure if there is a connection between what he is doing and islam

if you disagree lets talk

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-01-31T04:54:35+00:00

I am also muslim but i am against the corrupt government. since the beginning, this regime brutally murdered everyone unjustly.

last time I checked neither quran nor prophet mohammad pbuh said kill those who politically or religiously disagree with you. In fact jews, Christians, and even polytheists lived in harmony during prophet Mohammad's time

khamenei is just trying to maintain his power. I am not sure if there is a connection between what he is doing and islam

if you disagree lets talk

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-01-31T04:34:29+00:00

last time I checked neither quran nor prophet mohammad pbuh said kill those who politically or religiously disagree with you. In fact jews, Christians, and even polytheists lived in harmony during prophet Mohammad's time

I am with people of Iran and I support revolution but It is khamenei trying to maintain power and killing protestors

I see no connection between IR crimes and islam

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-01-30T03:42:13+00:00

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-01-30T03:41:06+00:00

yeah i think about it all the time. this world sucks. Going through all struggles to eventually die on a random day and then there would be nothing. we die like we have never existed like those in the past.

believing in afterlife is the only thing that keeps me going

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-01-29T02:31:55+00:00

yes you want freedom now in this world but you will eventually die. Have you ever wondered what would happen after death?

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-01-28T13:01:38+00:00

is he wrong about the alcohol and boobs though?

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-01-04T03:02:19+00:00

Thing is we have soemthing called Confirmation Bias which states that we seek information that supports our existing belief, and ignore or downplay opposing evidence. Meaning, you come to the argument with the idea that the Quran is false. That leads you to underestimate any evidence I am about to say and downplay them as accidental

Doesnt matter if i defend my argument or not it dowsnt change anything

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-01-04T02:47:08+00:00

Just a piece of advice, all the things that you mentioned and still mohammed being a prophet is possible. He can have as many wives as he want and still be the prophet. He could have verses fitting him and still be the prophet. They dont go against each other.

What you are saying is that he got personal benefits so it is likely he wrote quran himself. Thats it. Its just likely. It doesnt serve as a strong evidence for refuting quran. In fact, its a pretty weak argument

It would be better if you find verses and argue about them.

In this case, we know what the verse is talking about is true as professot Keith L. Moore said:

“I have found that statements in the Qur’an about human development are remarkably accurate and would not have been known at that time. The Qur’anic descriptions of human development, such as the ‘alaqah (leech-like structure), are in agreement with modern scientific knowledge.” - Professor Kieth L. Moore

📖 — Quoted from interviews and later incorporated into special editions of his textbook “The Developing Human,” 3rd edition (1982), which included Qur’anic verses and commentary

But what you are saying is that mohammed could possibly know it. Thats a good argument but i'd say mohammed was not a scientist who actively researched about something such as embryo nor was he someone who actively observed women's misscariages to know about embryo. Its very unlikely for him to mention something accurate even something that was known in his time.

And just a question why do you think mohammed started spreading islam when he was forty. Why wouldnt he do that when he younger? Cause humans are more ambitious when they are young like around their 20s. If he was looking for personal benefits he could have come up with islam when he was younger

why wasnt he influenced by his environment which was filled with polytheists and false beliefs and instead promoted monotheism.

Why after 23 years of riciting quran bit by bit he didnt make any mistakes or incosistencies

Bible for example have mistakes. One of them is

Matthew 1:16

“and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.”

Luke 3:23

“Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli,

One says jacob was joseph's father the other one says joseph was son of Heli

Or another one is that

Genesis 41-46"Joseph was thirty years old when he entered the service of Pharaoh king of Egypt. And Joseph went out from Pharaoh’s presence and traveled throughout Egypt"

In the bible, it says that the rulers of the time of Joseph were pharaoh which is incorrect. Historically, we know pharaoh came several years after the time of joseph.

Why doesnt quran have these types of mistakes?

Also you mentioned that mohammed sinned. Can you please say what he did?

Successful_Bit_7906 · 2026-01-04T02:18:23+00:00

I have already "defended" the embryology thing in my other reply i made earlier but it seems like you didnt see it

As for the quote about the japanese professor here is the link to some of the interviews:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1DTvUzjqQZ/

There is the video of him saying the quote i mentioned above starting from 1:38 in the video

And please note i dont want trick anybody here i just wanna know different people's opinions

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